1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Well you say of course, I agree with you, but some folks think that there is nothing wrong with him pre-snap and this is everybody else’s fault

Nah.  Sunday was a stew of week 1 rust, loud crowd, new pressure looks from Detroit, and Hurts' penchant to run.

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

8 of 20 dude, 8 of 20.

(That's games Hurts has thrown ZERO TDs. That's a problem)

Nah we'll just run, no worries. I mean hey look we won 9 games last year so you know it works, and the playoff game was just an off game. Howie break out the $40 million contract now!

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

On a weekly basis during the season? For a conversation that could be easily handled by the head coach? If we need to fill out some holes in the roster caused by injury or poor performance, that's one thing, but Gannon's comments didn't imply that. It implied he does this every week, which presumably would include weeks where no roster changes are necessitated at all.

Probably a sit down with all three coordinators.  Going over who is starting, backing up, healthy etc. and where they might have needs.  Not just deciding the practice squad call ups, if any, but also the inactives.  This actually looks like good management (mark the date and time because I rarely compliment Howie). Would like to have heard the discussion leading to the decision to keep J. Scott active over T.Jackson.  

7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

That assumes the eight couldnt have still be completed if he had the ability to keep his eyes up

Perhaps one or two. Certainly no more than that.

All this hand-wringing about QB will be irrelevant Monday night when Hurts goes 24-for-31 for 295 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT, and only 4 carries.

8 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Perhaps one or two. Certainly no more than that.

Here's one where the Lions bring 6.  Gainwell moves left, leaving the free rusher from the right.  I can't tell if this was a blown assignment or just a nice scheme by the Lions.

That said, "keeping his eyes up" wouldn't have applied to this play.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

All this hand-wringing about QB will be irrelevant Monday night when Hurts goes 24-for-31 for 295 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT, and only 4 carries.

Blink twice if you're in danger

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Blink twice if you're in danger

24 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

 No more Austin tips from you I guess lol

😀

I think there are numerous posters that like play along with the trolling of RTK and BC2.  Having survived Doug’s, I just don’t see the attraction.  You will never sway them and they will keep playing as long as folks pay attention to them.  

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Here's one where the Lions bring 6.  Gainwell moves left, leaving the free rusher from the right.  I can't tell if this was a blown assignment or just a nice scheme by the Lions.

That said, "keeping his eyes up" wouldn't have applied to this play.

 

 

Might have. Would like to see where the WRs were after he juked Hughes. He had room to set and throw, or throw on the run as he was moving forward. 

21 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

17 is what it is. I'll give up the kneel down, but that's still 16 more hits in addition to regular drop back passing hits. He was nearly concussed by the end of the game.

They shouldn't call any designed runs for him, considering his propensity to scramble will give him enough "opportunities". 

But the original argument started because a certain poster said the coaches are why Hurts ran 17 times, and it wasn't Hurts fault. That's wrong. 

I went back and reviewed the All 22. I saw Hurts abandon a clean pocket once where there might have been a receiver open but Dickerson is three yards past the LOS by the time the throw is available so he ran.  I counted one more where the protection was there but no receiver was open.  He threw it away.  I agree with JR on the scrambles.  If the protection broke down, that’s on the coaches or some player other than Hurts.  Perhaps Kelce called a bad game.  I suspect the noise was enough to limit line calls presnap.  Kudos to the 12th man. 

@LeanMeanGM

In case you missed my earlier prediction:

Vikings 34

Eagles 27

Hot Take: Jefferson only has 2 TDs in the game

Hope I'm wrong though. Think this will come down to who wins the turnover battle and whether or not the Eagles DL finally shows up.

27 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Which is why I said in the redzone specifically. Not much room for YAC within the 20. Its generally a QB who knows what to do before and after the snap  and can make quick decisions and accurate throws. But you know passing TDs are a thing in the NFL and im sure only throwing 1 TD or less in 9 games last year had more to do with our offense sputtering than anything else. I mean who knows what would happen if a team stopped our running game....oh wait 

I wouldn’t be surprised if half the passing TDs in the NFL in the red zone don’t involve some YAC as opposed to hitting the receiver in the end zone.  Seems like a small thing to quibble over.  A team that can’t run rarely has won a Super Bowl or gone far in the playoffs.  I am never going to complain about successfully running the ball in the red zone.  I get that you are probably concerned that the Eagles can’t pass it.  Yet to be seen with the additions of Brown, Pascal and quite possibly Calcaterra. Those are a lot better options than JJAW, Reagor, Ward and Stoll last year.  
 

Take the Hurts TD and the play before it.  Both looked like they had a pass option.  Defense takes the receiver, he runs it. The play before the TD set up the defense. They played the pass.

35 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Probably a sit down with all three coordinators.  Going over who is starting, backing up, healthy etc. and where they might have needs.  Not just deciding the practice squad call ups, if any, but also the inactives.  This actually looks like good management (mark the date and time because I rarely compliment Howie). Would like to have heard the discussion leading to the decision to keep J. Scott active over T.Jackson.  

Like the DC wants "X" activated but the ST coach points out he's redundant on STs while he needs someone else to fill out spots on certain units.

Philly fans are so negative they'll jump on every story, looking for the black lining in the fluffy white cloud.

Here is the full stupidity that is adjusted completion percentage.

 

 

58 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

But why didnt Hurts play well? We are focusing on Hurts. Oline didnt play great....Goedert had a bad drop. Okay. That doesnt completely excuse why Hurts was awful vs Tampa. Why was he not successful when he dropped back to pass, throughout the course of the game. Why was our passing game completely shut down??

There were more problems than just Hurts.  Hurts didn't do anything to cost the Eagles the game.  

46 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Do you have more confidence in the defense or Hurts this week? I may actually lean Hurts. Howie may triple team Jefferson so that he doesn't get embarrassed on primetime by the guy he whiffed on and Thielen/Cook could go wild. Curious what plays Howie calls on offense though.

Defense remains the issue when the offense scores 31 pts and kills the clock at the  end of the game.  

54 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Can't agree. Six called runs, of which two were ROs where he kept. One kneel-down, and 10 scrambles. Of those 10, he broke from a decent pocket twice. So, off-script twice. The other eight were of necessity.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Here is the full stupidity that is adjusted completion percentage.

 

 

It's not stupidity. It's subjective to some extent, but they do similar things in baseball, determining whether the "average" fielder would have got to a ball.

Week 2 of the season and the Eagles once again have 52 on the roster.  For the life of me I don't understand this. 

On 9/14/2022 at 7:36 AM, downundermike said:

Exactly.  @austinfan Nick Foles had no problem getting the ball down the field running an RPO offense, with no threat of him running, against playoff defenses.

 

Hurts last weekend

 

 

Nick Foles Super Bowl run

 

 

@mattwill you asked for examples of this, there has been some recent ones but I have been busy.

Here is @austinfan being pressed on his opinion, and of course, crickets.

 

Now that I have your attention @austinfan, care to address this ??

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Like the DC wants "X" activated but the ST coach points out he's redundant on STs while he needs someone else to fill out spots on certain units.

Philly fans are so negative they'll jump on every story, looking for the black lining in the fluffy white cloud.

Austin fans are so Pollyanna that they never find fault with anything the Eagles do.

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if half the passing TDs in the NFL in the red zone don’t involve some YAC as opposed to hitting the receiver in the end zone.  Seems like a small thing to quibble over.  A team that can’t run rarely has won a Super Bowl or gone far in the playoffs.  I am never going to complain about successfully running the ball in the red zone.  I get that you are probably concerned that the Eagles can’t pass it.  Yet to be seen with the additions of Brown, Pascal and quite possibly Calcaterra. Those are a lot better options than JJAW, Reagor, Ward and Stoll last year.  
 

Take the Hurts TD and the play before it.  Both looked like they had a pass option.  Defense takes the receiver, he runs it. The play before the TD set up the defense. They played the pass.

The QBs job is to run the offense, not pad his passing stats. 31 points, 400+ yards on the road, I'll take that every week.

Stoutland will have the OL working on blitz pickup this week, and the RB coach as well.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

Now that I have your attention @austinfan, care to address this ??

It's meaningless. You're using aggregrate numbers on a small sample. You have no data on which yards were from RPO passes, which from throwing downfield, which from YAC.

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Heal thyself, fraud

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

It's meaningless. You're using aggregrate numbers on a small sample. You have no data on which yards were from RPO passes, which from throwing downfield, which from YAC.

Par for the course, if it counters your opinion, it is meaningless.  You may be the biggest fraud who posts here.