4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Agree they could easily dumpster fire and land us a top 10

I think top 10 is the floor at this point. Top 5 is most certainly in play. 

15 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

@Bacarty2 taking a swing at some topics this afternoon.  
 

 

 

It has to be tough for him to concentrate with all of those make believe chicks throwing themselves at him all the time.  

The issue with QB salaries now is the Murray and Watson deals have really skewed the market; the levels of guaranteed money being thrown about is franchise changing over a large number of years, and it makes decisions on retaining Hurts/AN Other QB a tough one for franchises. Do you want to be stuck in a multi year guaranteed deal with someone that could have the same career ceiling as Kirk Cousins or has physically atrophied like Cam Newton?  I don't envy FOs navigating that path. You want to reward players for playing well, but you want options too if it goes wrong without turning the franchise into a long term dumpster fire

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That's your lone take away regarding the QB's?  That their starting QB doesn't run as well as Hurts?  😄

 

They're a better team.  It's ok to admit it.  

And until they show otherwise, KC is still a good team.

Funny because I remember at least one person saying losing Hill would totally dismantle their offense.

Seem to be doing just fine so far.

7 minutes ago, Swoop said:

And until they show otherwise, KC is still a good team.

Funny because I remember at least one person saying losing Hill would totally dismantle their offense.

Seem to be doing just fine so far.

As long as this man exist, they'll be contenders

Sometimes I think between him, Allen, and Rodgers my pov of QBs has been skewed a little because they changed the position 

Your first round pick making an impact.

 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Agree they could easily dumpster fire and land us a top 10

Right now at 1-3 and with their schedule its looking like 10-12 is almost a sure thing. If they lose to the Seahawks somehow, then that pick could be top 5 easily. Really just need teams to show up. Bengals and Raiders are more talented teams that need to show up on the road. At Cardinals on a short week should be a game AZ wins. Got the 50/50 games like Seahawks and Steelers. They could, however, win 3 of their last 4 IF the Eagles sit their starters for a portion of the game.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Your first round pick making an impact.

 

Nose tackles should not be able to do that. Davis has been "meh" as a pass-rusher, but he's the reason the 5 man fronts work.

Also, Zech my man you can't get beat on that double move.

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That's your lone take away regarding the QB's?  That their starting QB doesn't run as well as Hurts?  😄

 

They're a better team.  It's ok to admit it.  

Man can’t even have a simple convo with you without you having to make some sort of tough guy remark. 

Yes, I think the Eagles have a better team. Outside of QB, I think they’re better at every position besides safety. 

The NFL is also a lot about matchups. Think the Eagles would matchup better with them than they would the Chiefs. However, I think the Bills would have a better chance at beating the Chiefs than the Eagles would. 

Just my meaningless opinion. It’s not meaningful like yours Tommy Toughnuts 

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

But last page you just said they're too good and will be in the 10-15 range? You've flipped so quickly? 

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

But last page you just said they're too good and will be in the 10-15 range? You've flipped so quickly? 

They're simulations. If it's a top 10 pick 61% of the time, it's also in the 11+ range 39% of the time.

I think they'll win more than we expect. I sincerely hope I'm wrong and New Orleans craters.

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'd say they're better than good.  But Mahomes isn't as good as a runner than Hurts....so.......

I would as well, but my point was that there isn't this drastic fall off that we've been hearing about.

30 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Your first round pick making an impact.

 

Fortunately we're going to get about a half of a single games worth of tape by the end of the year 

14 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

But last page you just said they're too good and will be in the 10-15 range? You've flipped so quickly? 

He's a thirty-nine-percenter.

15 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

At this point, Jalen Hurts has built up so much good will that he would have to have 5-6 consecutive Daniel Jones type games and we’re still probably not taking a QB next year. I don’t know if he gets the monster contract yet, but he’s 100% our 2023 starter.

Those picks are now future DEs or trade bait

Agreed. Hurts would have to crater for him to not be the starter next year. And if he keeps this level of play up, he will be extended well before that season begins.

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I’m talking about Hurts.  Constantly defending him, won’t make you pals.  It’s cute, but useless.  

Hmm, perhaps you have me confused with someone else?

10 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

Kind of reflects what happens when the last team played turns the ball over five times and the teams played so far in the NFC are the worst, third worst and fifth worst defenses.   

You love to see it

Football Outsider stuff...

2nd in overall DVOA - Off: 4 / Def: 3 / ST: 29  (We are the only team with a top ten offense and defense)

We are 4th in pass offense, 6th in rush offense, 2nd in pass defense, and 23rd in rush defense.

17 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I'm slowly moving onto the Hurts' train but  there is zero chance he's locked in to be the starter yet.  

What if he demands an obnxious amount of money.

What if he gets hurt, again, worse this time.

What if he reverts to old Hurts for the last 12 weeks.

Any smaller combo of those 3. What if he looks like crap in the playoffs then wants a monster contract. 

I think your first one will resolve itself, agents are able to tame that kind of thing. The issue right now with Lamar is he has no agent, so he’s doing whatever he pleases.

Your second one I think would work in Hurts’s favor. That also means he only has excellent tape on record, and Howie will say they’ll ask him to run less because he’s evolved as a passer. The biggest boon for Hurts though is also preventing 3 or 4 coming to fruition…

Third thing is the biggest concern, that’ll definitely tank his stock price out of starter material. I think he becomes Carson Wentz if that happens. We trade him to the Texans for a 2 or so and move on. My early comment was about how far a fall it’s have to be for that to happen, but all 12 games would definitely do it.

Fourth scenario I think would be very circumstantial. Do we have the #1 NFC seed and a first round bye? So even though TB came in and blew us out again, Hurts got us to the division round through his regular season play. But then again, if we have a first round playoff home game and it’s Detroit or Minnesota who does it, and he looks ugly despite a strong regular season…. That’d be really interesting. I don’t know what would happen. Do you say "well he’s still only 25?” Especially if he finishes third in MVP or whatever it’ll be. Just would depend on the when, where, and how bad the playoff failure is

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Football Outsider stuff...

2nd in overall DVOA - Off: 4 / Def: 3 / ST: 29  (We are the only team with a top ten offense and defense)

We are 4th in pass offense, 6th in rush offense, 2nd in pass defense, and 23rd in rush defense.

More fun with numbers. 

13 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

You love to see it

That’s interesting. Dolphins so far are basically a Cleveland Browns that doesn’t score as much. (Opponents have a massive affect on that for both teams of course, but the optics have been that Miami has some unstoppable air raid)

7 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Fwiw, they got Ravens on MNF then gotta go to Pittsburgh on a short week

Simulate all you want...

https://playoffpredictors.com/Football

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

23rd in rush defense.

This one is surprising. I thought they were much better than that.