23 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

If both Johnson brothers are unavailable come Friday, do the Eagles elevate Davion Taylor?  Does Bradley play back up SAM.  Seems overlooked that both back up SAMs are in concussion protocol. 

I don’t think it’s a big deal. SAM is more edge rusher than LB. Not sure on the Johnsons’ role on special teams 

4 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

All things being equal, the running game will always be more effective with Hurts than Minshew. 

The RB's had their second best game of the year against the Jets, when Minshew was the starter.

10 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

No I'm not. People think that if Hurts leaves the game that the offense forgets how to run block. Not the case. As seeon by the almost 200 yards against the jets. 

Almost every monster rushing game has come with some white boi at QB, so to think it cant be done because the RPO isnt an option anymore is laughable.

IF*** Minshew took over the run game would look different, but would be just as effective. IF not MORE* effective since I truly believe minshew can read a defense better pre snap

Public service announcement... Read Option (RO) and Run-Pass Option (RPO) are very different things and mean very different options for the QB on the given play.  They are not the same thing.  

 

Thank you for your attention, we now return you to your regularly scheduled blog posts conflating them.  

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The RB's had their second best game of the year against the Jets, when Minshew was the starter.

Yes. So?

All things being equal, the running game will always be better with Hurts than Minshew.

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The RB's had their second best game of the year against the Jets, when Minshew was the starter.

That had way more to do with it than Minshew.  Jets D was abysmal last year.

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31 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

27 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

 

Sounds like a subluxation

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19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Read Option (RO) and Run-Pass Option (RPO) are very different things and mean very different options for the QB on the given play.  They are not the same thing.  

This is especially egregious because Minshew ran a ton of RPOs in the Jets game.

Someone help me out... I'm pretty sure that a criminal trespasser doesn't have much ground to stand on in this situation to sue anyone for anything.

If anything, Wagner should be able to sue this guy for fouling his air.

53 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

If both Johnson brothers are unavailable come Friday, do the Eagles elevate Davion Taylor?  Does Bradley play back up SAM.  Seems overlooked that both back up SAMs are in concussion protocol. 

Not sure there is a better option

if so i would have taylor as a spy most plays

 

 

50 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah I'm not crazy about Hurts as a QB, but even those with a cursory understanding of our offense would have to admit that the running game wouldn't be as effective with Minshew under center.

See i would dispute that. We saw foles run plenty of this and be effective. The pass threat is even more dangerous that the run threat. Its certainly a factor in our inability to pass in the red zone

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Quez is a tough one for Howie to trade and win. 

Quez on another team is a much better player.  For instance,  Quez on the Bears is Darnell Mooney ( not this year's version with Fields sucking.  The good version).

Trading Quez for a 4th and seeing him produce like he is capable of in a larger role is a loss for Howie.

I think you are looking at the glass half empty rather than the glass half full.  I believe the value that the other team realizes is essentially irrelevant when assessing the success or failure of a trade.  What matters is the value received compared to the value surrendered.  Take the Reagor trade ... Reagor had essentially zero value as an Eagle, so the Draft pick received was a net increase in value for the Eagles.  Whether Reagor thrived/produced as a Viking had no bearing on Reagor's value if he continued to be an Eagle.  Why was Reagor's value essentially zero?  Because the Eagles had other players that provided the same or greater value to fill the open roster slot that was created by the trade.

The same formula applies to any hypothetical Watkins trade.  It is actually a plus for the Eagles if the Bears or any other team interested in him thinks that Watkins is the equivalent of Mooney.  What makes any such hypothetical trade a winner is if the Eagles actually already have a viable replacement for Watkins.  If that is the case, then the roster position continues to be capably filled and the inventory of draft picks is increased.

With all the above said, the truth is that I don't know whether the Eagles believe they have anyone currently on their roster that can do what Watkins currently does.  So, this what-if conversation is purely hypothetical and full of projection.  Anyone who has been around this Blog knows I really enjoy "what if" discussions.  @justrelax and I were having that kind of "what if" conversation about a trade for Jason Peters almost a year prior to the actual trade happening.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Why are we trading Quez?  A productive piece on a rookie deal?

My answer to you is the same as my answer to HE above.

1 hour ago, UndyTaker said:

We need to hurry up and trade Quez because hes going to be too expensive to keep because hes good....and then draft a WR high in the first round so we can get someone good enough that Hurts can throw to as a WR #3. Just making sure we're all on the same page here.

Absolutely we are ...                                                                        not.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I think you are looking at the glass half empty rather than the glass half full.  I believe the value that the other team realizes is essentially irrelevant when assessing the success or failure of a trade.  What matters is the value received compared to the value surrendered.  Take the Reagor trade ... Reagor had essentially zero value as an Eagle, so the Draft pick received was a net increase in value for the Eagles.  Whether Reagor thrived/produced as a Viking had no bearing on Reagor's value if he continued to be an Eagle.  Why was Reagor's value essentially zero?  Because the Eagles had other players that provided the same or greater value to fill the open roster slot that was created by the trade.

The same formula applies to any hypothetical Watkins trade.  It is actually a plus for the Eagles if the Bears or any other team interested in him thinks that Watkins is the equivalent of Mooney.  What makes any such hypothetical trade a winner is if the Eagles actually already have a viable replacement for Watkins.  If that is the case, then the roster position continues to be capably filled and the inventory of draft picks is increased.

With all the above said, the truth is that I don't know whether the Eagles believe they have anyone currently on their roster that can do what Watkins currently does.  So, this what-if conversation is purely hypothetical and full of projection.  Anyone who has been around this Blog knows I really enjoy "what if" discussions.  @justrelax and I were having that kind of "what if" conversation about a trade for Jason Peters almost a year prior to the actual trade happening.

My answer to you is the same as my answer to HE above.

But we don't have a viable replacement.  Just some guesses.  We are looking to win now.  That's why Dillard may be around all season.

8 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

See i would dispute that. We saw foles run plenty of this and be effective. The pass threat is even more dangerous that the run threat. Its certainly a factor in our inability to pass in the red zone

Not saying the run game can't be effective with a QB like Minshew, just not as effective as it would be with a QB like Hurts. The bump in the passing game might outweigh that (and prior to this year, I'd say it would've), but that's a different question. The question was would our run game be as effective, not the overall offense. Solak also weighed recently in response to a segment on ESPN.

 

43 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t think it’s a big deal. SAM is more edge rusher than LB. Not sure on the Johnsons’ role on special teams 

Kyron has been very impressive on ST thus far. 

25 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

 

Sounds like a subluxation

Could you elaborate for us non-medical folks?

54 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Some might argue that the stupid force fed targets to Gainwell are not effective and they would be better suited to design plays for Watkins.  Moreover, what to targets matter if Watkins remains a receiving threat that requires DB coverage.  

I might argue your first point as well.  I don't see our current corps of RBs as being effective receivers.  But imagine Brian Westbrook on this team.

I agree with your second sentence 100%.  However, it also works if you relace the word Watkins with the expression WR#3.

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1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Could you elaborate for us non-medical folks?

Partial dislocation. Joint has a tendency to pop in and out of place depending on the stress/impact put on the joint. I stayed a Motel 6 and used google....

Kinda cool that Landon might get to play with his dad.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Could you elaborate for us non-medical folks?

Shoulder dislocated but went right back in. 

No major structural damage. 

Physical therapy and a shoulder stabilizer to wear while playing. 

8 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Could you elaborate for us non-medical folks?

 

Partial dislocation where the joint separates, and then pops back in.  It can separate again when placed in the same position again, due to the ligaments being stretched. 

 

Patient:  My arm hurts when I do this!

Dr:  Then don't do that.

 

Pretty sure that's the treatment for a subluxation.  Immobilize the arm for a few days... keep it in joint and allow the ligaments to 'unstretch'.   No jumping jacks!!!