3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Th biggest potential drawback to it is probably its effect on team leadership.  The singular QB that teams have now is the logical leader of the Offense, if not the whole team.  A two-headed (or even three-headed) QB would naturally have leadership differences in its individual "heads" which could cause leadership ambiguity ... possibly even leadership conflict.

Vince Lombardi was able to use a variation on what TEW describes in his "Messenger Guards" system of communicating with the huddle ... but no one ever looked to those Guards for team leadership.

I get the human angle

But has it ever mattered less? In a league where turnover is constant and even superstar qb are getting traded? We hear about all that matters is winning right now….so if thats all it is then changing the qb every couple years isnt that consequential

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

How many Colts games did you watch last year ??

 

Very few, so I'll defer to people who watched more of them. It generally seems that even the people who ranked the Colts as a good unit are now ranking them as a bad unit, so that would incline me to believe that there's a significant difference in how they looked last year vs. this year.

31 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Not at all trying to start a Wentz debate or defend his mistakes, but I was told that they had a top offensive line, a great coach, blah, blah, blah, and all the issues were on Wentz last year.

The o line Wentz had last year was far better than the trash Indy trotted out last night.

When Kelly there center went down it went from bad to worse 

That rookie LT as bad as he was at least didn't look like a pro Matador, I can't figure out for the life of me why the heck Pryor isn't working at a taco bell🤷‍♂️ 

Having said that I think Reich is a pretty good coach, to win a game with that o line out ones starting RB that is like most the offense with a 65 year old QB is quite the feat.

Having said that Wentz wasn't a victim of bad circumstances last year in Indy he was the initiator.

I'm not sure how many Wentz washers are still around so not sure there would be much of a debate🤷‍♂️

35 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Yes, I wasn't calling it a defensive struggle. I was merely responding to Baracarty's comment good games are only games where points are scored, acknowledging that I don't think a game can only be good when it's high-scoring.

Last night's game was good in the same way a train wreck or horror movie is.

Even the bronco fans couldnt stomach the brutal butchery anymore and left in droves with the score tied.

I will say I found the game highly entertaining, I found my self yelling at the half dressed teenage girl to not run into the spooky house occupied by the chainsaw welding killers family.🧟‍♂️.

 

3/5 OL positions for the Colts have different starters this year vs. 2021, including LT. I would say that's the most obvious difference without even looking at the tape. OL units are, perhaps more than any other position group, dependent on chemistry within both the unit itself and with the QB. That's certainly enough to a take unit from decent to bad without even looking at individual player abilities

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

 

All 5 of those teams are pretty good anyway, and we’ve already beaten 2 of them. "you havent played anyone!” Will slowly evolve into "both 11+ Win teams have something in common: they lost to Philly”

Strange to see the Jaguars in the Easiest column and the Texans in the Hardest column.

3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Very few, so I'll defer to people who watched more of them. It generally seems that even the people who ranked the Colts as a good unit are now ranking them as a bad unit, so that would incline me to believe that there's a significant difference in how they looked last year vs. this year.

The only changes to the Colts depth chart going into the season from the start of last season

Matt Pryor at LT over Eric Fisher ( Pryor played 40% of the snaps last year and was given a good grade by PFF )

Danny Pinter at RG over Mark Glowinski.

Best lineman Quenton Nelson only played 69% of the total snaps.

Second best lineman Ryan Kelly played 81.5% of the snaps.

They had 9 lineman play at least 20% of the total snaps.

 

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Well, I did tutor the SAT for many years, so I guess it's finally paying off, lol.

Spurious gets a nod, as well.

Who do I tag with my likely to be incorrect score prediction?

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41-22 Eagles with a statement win on the road (aren't they all if we win?)

2 defensive turnovers, again!   

 

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Strange to see the Jaguars in the Easiest column and the Texans in the Hardest column.

The Jags have already played us.  The Texans haven't.  

Just now, jamiller said:

Who do I tag with my likely to be incorrect score prediction?

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41-22 Eagles with a statement win on the road (aren't they all if we win?)

2 defensive turnovers, again!   

 

@LeanMeanGM

 

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Strange to see the Jaguars in the Easiest column and the Texans in the Hardest column.

I think there are 3 key factors there:

 

1. the easiest one to point out is the Jags finished last in the division last year, so their uncommon opponents are the Jets, Lions and Ravens, while Houston has to play the Dolphins and Browns. 
 

2. Games already played is important. Notice how I only mentioned 2 of the uncommon opponents for the Texans. So while they do have the bears on their schedule, they’ve already played them and  thus doesn’t factor into remaining schedule. Now notice that both Play Philly and the Chargers, but The Jaguars have already played both, meaning 2 of their 5 hardest games aren’t even on their remaining schedule while they both are for Houston. And the flip side is also true with Houston playing their aforementioned NFCN team already, and playing the Broncos already whom Jacksonville still gets to play.

3. And the other major factor is Jacksonville has looked good to start the season. Houston has to play them twice while the Jags get to play Houston.

15 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I get the human angle

But has it ever mattered less? In a league where turnover is constant and even superstar qb are getting traded? We hear about all that matters is winning right now….so if thats all it is then changing the qb every couple years isnt that consequential

Good point.  I was thinking much more narrowly that you were/are.  I really appreciate the perspective.

It also begs a question ... who is the "leader" of the Eagles Offense.  Arguably it is Jason Kelce.

4 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think there are 3 key factors there:

 

1. the easiest one to point out is the Jags finished last in the division last year, so their uncommon opponents are the Jets, Lions and Ravens, while Houston has to play the Dolphins and Browns. 
 

2. Games already played is important. Notice how I only mentioned 2 of the uncommon opponents for the Texans. So while they do have the bears on their schedule, they’ve already played them and  thus doesn’t factor into remaining schedule. Now notice that both Play Philly and the Chargers, but The Jaguars have already played both, meaning 2 of their 5 hardest games aren’t even on their remaining schedule while they both are for Houston. And the flip side is also true with Houston playing their aforementioned NFCN team already, and playing the Broncos already whom Jacksonville still gets to play.

3. And the simplest one is Jacksonville has looked good to start the season. Houston has to play them twice while the Jags get to play Houston.

My bad.  I thought no AFC South team could have been worse than the Texans last season.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

My bad.  I thought no AFC South team could have been worse than the Texans last season.

Urban Meyer!

 

Remember Dougie P had the #1 overall pick. Further emphasizing the job he’s done this season

21 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The o line Wentz had last year was far better than the trash Indy trotted out last night.

When Kelly there center went down it went from bad to worse 

That rookie LT as bad as he was at least didn't look like a pro Matador, I can't figure out for the life of me why the heck Pryor isn't working at a taco bell🤷‍♂️ 

Having said that I think Reich is a pretty good coach, to win a game with that o line out ones starting RB that is like most the offense with a 65 year old QB is quite the feat.

Having said that Wentz wasn't a victim of bad circumstances last year in Indy he was the initiator.

I'm not sure how many Wentz washers are still around so not sure there would be much of a debate🤷‍♂️

The team was considered stacked in that offseason but couldn't block a lot and had injuries throughout the season

Im finding it very difficult not to reach the conclusion that Frank Reich is a horrible HC

Some people just arent cut out for it.  Like Nathaniel Hackett or Josh McDaniels, knowing football is one thing and being a head coach is another

The Colts are god awful, its just a total ish team.  Theres no way you can separate Reich from the failure at this point.  Its on him.  

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Im finding it very difficult not to reach the conclusion that Frank Reich is a horrible HC

Some people just arent cut out for it.  Like Nathaniel Hackett or Josh McDaniels, knowing football is one thing and being a head coach is another

The Colts are god awful, its just a total ish team.  Theres no way you can separate Reich from the failure at this point.  Its on him.  

Owner and GM aren't much better

30 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I get the human angle

But has it ever mattered less? In a league where turnover is constant and even superstar qb are getting traded? We hear about all that matters is winning right now….so if thats all it is then changing the qb every couple years isnt that consequential

It does if the team (i.e. the other 52 players) believes making the change hurts their ability to win games.  

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

The team was considered stacked in that offseason but couldn't block a lot and had injuries throughout the season

 Wentz wasn't part of the solution he was part of the problem.

I was willing to give him a shot this year with Washington, he has good weapons a solid O Iine but still does all the stupid things he's always done.

He sucks, it's not the system his coach his o line it's him.

I'll always be grateful for 2017 Wentz and how he played that season and I'll also always be grateful they did t build a statue of Wentz and pederson as they would have had to melt it down 2 years later.

 

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Im finding it very difficult not to reach the conclusion that Frank Reich is a horrible HC

Some people just arent cut out for it.  Like Nathaniel Hackett or Josh McDaniels, knowing football is one thing and being a head coach is another

The Colts are god awful, its just a total ish team.  Theres no way you can separate Reich from the failure at this point.  Its on him.  

The debate weather Frank is a good coach or not is one thing....but there is no coach out there who would win with a terrible oline and only 1 guy to throw to, who is really a #2 WR. 3 years in a row they have taken "out of prime" QBs who teams didnt want anymore and they just happened to luck out with JT coming into his own. I mean the moment they got Matt Ryan everyone should have known it wasnt going to end well. Its bad managment.

18 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

So you agree with me, the time off has nothing to do with bad teams.

 

Nah, just content you watch you spin your wheels.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Owner and GM aren't much better

Like I said earlier winning any games with that o line And a 65 year old QB is an accomplishment in it self, not to mention being down the starting RB who accounts for majority of offense.

I think Reich is a good coach In a bad situation 

The owner is an idiot and the GM isn't too far behind.

 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

The colts are basically the same team as last year, just a little healthier on the o-line.(Jon Taylor missed a couple games last yea too)

 

 

Oh @Bacarty2, always opening your mouth and making stupid statements, when you can verify the info so easily.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

 Wentz wasn't part of the solution he was part of the problem.

I was willing to give him a shot this year with Washington, he has good weapons a solid O Iine but still does all the stupid things he's always done.

He sucks, it's not the system his coach his o line it's him.

I'll always be grateful for 2017 Wentz and how he played that season and I'll also always be grateful they did t build a statue of Wentz and pederson as they would have had to melt it down 2 years later.

 

I didn't say he was part of the solution. The team couldn't block so any QB was going to struggle. It was amplified because Wentz sucks when he was no Oline

I seem to have triggered a nerve lol