What a joke. 

Oh OK Fetterman. I see you. @Smokesdawg

 

@JohnSnowsHair

Here's a statement from ish weasel on why he didn't vote to impeach (Just like I said he wouldn't)

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But a statement released by his office argued against impeachment, saying it would "almost certainly result” in Trump’s second acquittal in the Senate, and therefore "further divide and inflame tensions in our nation.”

The statement added that "forcing a time-consuming and divisive trial in the Senate” would also "undermine President-elect Biden’s ability to govern effectively at the beginning and most critical time of his presidency.”

 

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

@JohnSnowsHair

Here's a statement from ish weasel on why he didn't vote to impeach (Just like I said he wouldn't)

 

I think he is wrong, but I also understand the position. We're 6 days from the end, and impeachment at this stage can certainly be framed as pure vindictiveness - and that is almost certainly part of the motivation for many voting for it.

But I think he's wrong to let that sentiment crowd out the fact that this guy deserves every inch of impeachment. You look at his body of work in only 4 short years, and if that's not worthy of impeachment then we might as well remove it from the Constitution. 

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I think he is wrong, but I also understand the position. We're 6 days from the end, and impeachment at this stage can certainly be framed as pure vindictiveness - and that is almost certainly part of the motivation for many voting for it.

But I think he's wrong to let that sentiment crowd out the fact that this guy deserves every inch of impeachment. You look at his body of work in only 4 short years, and if that's not worthy of impeachment then we might as well remove it from the Constitution. 

That isn't his position. His posiiton is try to both sides it to win his next election. It's his only motivation, hence why he's a ish weasel. 

Wolf proposing a huge tax hike on "the wealthy". If you're curious about who Wolf considers "wealthy", its a family of 4 making over 84k. 

Easy concept to me.

I have since moved out of state, where early voting and mail-in ballots are the norm. It works great. Not everybody can't rearrange their lives to vote on the same Tuesday in November, so there's an entire week: Tuesday is no good? How about Thursday? Saturday? Plus it thins out the lines when everybody else shows up on Election Day. Win/win. I don't know why folks in PA are so against it.

4 hours ago, Gannan said:

Wolf proposing a huge tax hike on "the wealthy". If you're curious about who Wolf considers "wealthy", its a family of 4 making over 84k. 

Link? 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Link? 

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/02/pa-budget-wolf-proposes-record-personal-income-tax-increase-to-transform-education-funding.html

4 hours ago, Gannan said:

Wolf proposing a huge tax hike on "the wealthy". If you're curious about who Wolf considers "wealthy", its a family of 4 making over 84k. 

smh........................................

18 minutes ago, Gannan said:

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/02/pa-budget-wolf-proposes-record-personal-income-tax-increase-to-transform-education-funding.html

Jebus. is it stepped? does it start at dollars earned after $87k? 

9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Jebus. is it stepped? does it start at dollars earned after $87k? 

Looks like its "buffered" between 85 and 100k. It's hard to find a lot of the details because Wolf is trying obfuscate. "Making the top 1/3 of PA income earners pay their fair share" sounds better then socking it to the middle class. I had to do a lot of googling around to find out where the line was but over 84k is what I found. The republican legislature, which I hate, is going to make this proposal DOA thankfully, but this proposal is insanity.   I'm not @vikas83 rich, only "Democrat rich". I suspect you're in the same boat

9 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Looks like its "buffered" between 85 and 100k. It's hard to find a lot of the details because Wolf is trying obfuscate. "Making the top 1/3 of PA income earners pay their fair share" sounds better then socking it to the middle class. I had to do a lot of googling around to find out where the line was but over 84k is what I found. The republican legislature, which I hate, is going to make this proposal DOA thankfully, but this proposal is insanity.   I'm not @vikas83 rich, only "Democrat rich". I suspect you're in the same boat

yeah this would result in us paying quite a bit more. 

PA is not particularly high when it comes to state income tax. I'm not reflexively opposed to any and all tax cuts like some are. but if the gov't is going to raise my taxes, you better make a case for what I'm getting for it. are the potholes going to be taken care of before I blow out a tire? how is the increased funding going to effect schools across the states?

if something was passed as a temporary (and not one of those "temporary but not really" taxes) to help cover the tax revenue shortfalls from COVID, and timed to take effect after we were on firm economic footing, I could be convinced that was a reasonable approach to try and get the budget back inline. 

but even though at 3.07% we're pretty low nationally, I'd still need a case to be made that raising my taxes almost 50% is going to get some ROI. not necessarily "for me", I don't see my taxes paid as some sort of transactional situation I am compelled to come out on top with personally, but the state I live in better see some marked improvement somewhere. 

10 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

yeah this would result in us paying quite a bit more. 

PA is not particularly high when it comes to state income tax. I'm not reflexively opposed to any and all tax cuts like some are. but if the gov't is going to raise my taxes, you better make a case for what I'm getting for it. are the potholes going to be taken care of before I blow out a tire? how is the increased funding going to effect schools across the states?

if something was passed as a temporary (and not one of those "temporary but not really" taxes) to help cover the tax revenue shortfalls from COVID, and timed to take effect after we were on firm economic footing, I could be convinced that was a reasonable approach to try and get the budget back inline. 

but even though at 3.07% we're pretty low nationally, I'd still need a case to be made that raising my taxes almost 50% is going to get some ROI. not necessarily "for me", I don't see my taxes paid as some sort of transactional situation I am compelled to come out on top with personally, but the state I live in better see some marked improvement somewhere. 

Wolf wants free college and pre K. Personally, they should just legalize weed and tax the ish out of it to pay for it. 

47 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Wolf wants free college and pre K. Personally, they should just legalize weed and tax the ish out of it to pay for it. 

yeah they need to go all the way. 

Colorado brought in just shy of $400m in 2020. Our population is more than double, and Colorado has had this in place for almost a decade, so I don't think this is a panacea (especially as NJ just signed their order today, there will be more competition than say Denver has) .. but it would help.

I don't want free college. I think free community college perhaps is sensible, but not free college. 

 

12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

yeah they need to go all the way. 

Colorado brought in just shy of $400m in 2020. Our population is more than double, and Colorado has had this in place for almost a decade, so I don't think this is a panacea (especially as NJ just signed their order today, there will be more competition than say Denver has) .. but it would help.

I don't want free college. I think free community college perhaps is sensible, but not free college. 

 

I'm guessing it would only apply to the PASSHE schools (Bloomsberg, ESU, West Chester, etc.). Tuition is pretty modest for those schools as it is (around 10k per year). I would favor what Delaware does. If a kid can get through high school with a 3.0 and no discipline problems, then they should be able to get a tuition scholarship to one of those schools. Putting merit conditions as modest as those are, would probably keep it somewhat reasonable. 

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

I'm guessing it would only apply to the PASSHE schools (Bloomsberg, ESU, West Chester, etc.). Tuition is pretty modest for those schools as it is (around 10k per year). I would favor what Delaware does. If a kid can get through high school with a 3.0 and no discipline problems, then they should be able to get a tuition scholarship to one of those schools. Putting merit conditions as modest as those are, would probably keep it somewhat reasonable. 

Or maybe they can pay their own Fn way to school. 

1 hour ago, Bill said:

Or maybe they can pay their own Fn way to school. 

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Better yet, let’s just get rid of all the cops with their corrupt unions sucking the tax payers dry.

We have such a shortage of college graduates after all...

3 hours ago, Gannan said:

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Better yet, let’s just get rid of all the cops with their corrupt unions sucking the tax payers dry.

 

10 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

We have such a shortage of college graduates after all...

We have a shortage in certain areas. Engineering is a good example. If you want to limit my proposal to STEM, or needs in the market place, I'm ok with that.

just pass the f'ng pot bill and stop with this BS. let the potheads become the heroes of education. 

Going to love it when those pot funds earmarked for education get used to pay for bridges or something. 

16 hours ago, Gannan said:

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Better yet, let’s just get rid of all the cops with their corrupt unions sucking the tax payers dry.

Think cops unions are bad...look at schools and the teacher's pension liabilities.  I think it's up to the schools contributing 34% of a teacher's salary to the pension fund this year.  It's getting out of hand.

Just looked up the states required contribution to the PSERS pension this year...$2.75 billion plus 50+million in administrative costs for the pension.

The GOP in the State House is going to Censure A GOP Senator for voting to convict Trump. Gutless, thieves who want to steal the election by any means necessary.