May 15, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Yep. He squeezed Knebel. But Knebel sucks. Still a great series win. But would have been an epic sweep. the bats showed up for the series. the bullpen is still a massive issue. This series the pen pitched 12.2 innings and gave up 10 runs
May 15, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: the bats showed up for the series. the bullpen is still a massive issue. This series the pen pitched 12.2 innings and gave up 10 runs 15 walks this series by the bullpen Death, taxes and the Phillies bullpen sucking ass
May 15, 20223 yr Just now, mikemack8 said: 15 walks this series by the bullpen Death, taxes and the Phillies bullpen sucking ass You knew as soon as bellinger hit the triple with 2 outs they were in trouble. We were fortunate to get out of the previous inning ahead considering familia had 1st and 2nd no outs and gave up a run already
May 16, 20223 yr Something I’d like a true baseball statistician to show us… I generally lean positive on the Phillies, but my biggest complaint has always been the feast or famine nature of the lineup. Most of the now widespread sabermetrics (that I’m aware of) look at numbers over the course of a season to dictate what you need to win X number of games….under the assumption that a 162 game season gets you a pretty normal distribution of that productivity. Based on my own observations of this Phillies team, I would bet they throw up more 0,1, and 2 run games than most other quality lineups that will score a comparable number of runs over this 162 game season. I also suspect the distribution of their scoring output is less uniform than other teams. I’m not exactly trying to make a "Jalen Hurts garbage time” debate here. But if the offense is, in fact, dead cold on arrival for more games than most upper echelon lineups, then they aren’t as good as the first layer of stats on paper would suggest.
May 16, 20223 yr 41 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Something I’d like a true baseball statistician to show us… I generally lean positive on the Phillies, but my biggest complaint has always been the feast or famine nature of the lineup. Most of the now widespread sabermetrics (that I’m aware of) look at numbers over the course of a season to dictate what you need to win X number of games….under the assumption that a 162 game season gets you a pretty normal distribution of that productivity. Based on my own observations of this Phillies team, I would bet they throw up more 0,1, and 2 run games than most other quality lineups that will score a comparable number of runs over this 162 game season. I also suspect the distribution of their scoring output is less uniform than other teams. I’m not exactly trying to make a "Jalen Hurts garbage time” debate here. But if the offense is, in fact, dead cold on arrival for more games than most upper echelon lineups, then they aren’t as good as the first layer of stats on paper would suggest. I get what you are saying. However the biggest issue the Phillies have is their bullpen is just god awful year after year. It’s been horrific bullpen after horrific bullpen for like 6-7 years now. When you face a team like the dodgers and these good teams coming up, only way we are going to win is if the offense scores a ton and the starters can go deep enough to limit the use of the pen. Like we won 3 of 4 but easily could’ve lost 2 more due to horrific bullpen going 12.2 innings, 15 walks and 10 runs in 4 games.
May 16, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: I get what you are saying. However the biggest issue the Phillies have is their bullpen is just god awful year after year. It’s been horrific bullpen after horrific bullpen for like 6-7 years now. When you face a team like the dodgers and these good teams coming up, only way we are going to win is if the offense scores a ton and the starters can go deep enough to limit the use of the pen. Like we won 3 of 4 but easily could’ve lost 2 more due to horrific bullpen going 12.2 innings, 15 walks and 10 runs in 4 games. Yup. Going nowhere. I’d argue the bullpen is even worse than last year.
May 16, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Why is it every year we never fix our bullpen? Legitimately every year it’s the same damn issue. Curse of Brad Lidge. Haven't had a steady bullpen since his perfect season.
May 17, 20223 yr On 5/15/2022 at 10:32 PM, eagle45 said: Something I’d like a true baseball statistician to show us… I generally lean positive on the Phillies, but my biggest complaint has always been the feast or famine nature of the lineup. Most of the now widespread sabermetrics (that I’m aware of) look at numbers over the course of a season to dictate what you need to win X number of games….under the assumption that a 162 game season gets you a pretty normal distribution of that productivity. Based on my own observations of this Phillies team, I would bet they throw up more 0,1, and 2 run games than most other quality lineups that will score a comparable number of runs over this 162 game season. I also suspect the distribution of their scoring output is less uniform than other teams. I’m not exactly trying to make a "Jalen Hurts garbage time” debate here. But if the offense is, in fact, dead cold on arrival for more games than most upper echelon lineups, then they aren’t as good as the first layer of stats on paper would suggest. So basically a higher standard deviation for runs scored per game For instance, if you have five numbers: 5, 5, 5, 5, and 5, the sum is 25, and average is 5. The standard deviation is 0, meaning each number averages 0 away from the mean. Then, take five more numbers: 0, 10, 1, 9, and 5. The sum is also 25, and the average is 5, but now the standard deviation is 4.04, meaning each number averages 4.04 away from the mean.
May 17, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, xzmattzx said: So basically a higher standard deviation for runs scored per game For instance, if you have five numbers: 5, 5, 5, 5, and 5, the sum is 25, and average is 5. The standard deviation is 0, meaning each number averages 0 away from the mean. Then, take five more numbers: 0, 10, 1, 9, and 5. The sum is also 25, and the average is 5, but now the standard deviation is 4.04, meaning each number averages 4.04 away from the mean. Yep.
May 17, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: How is what this Clevinger guy does, allowed. What a weirdo. I was wondering if he gets called for a balk sometimes with this weirdness.
May 18, 20223 yr Typical Phillies. Play well for a week on a road trip. Go 5-2. Come home the first game they score 0 runs and the bullpen as soon as we pull our starter who was good, gives up 2 runs.
May 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, vsptroops said: They've been held to 0 or 1 runs in 9 of their 36 games which is 25%. Ball go boom!!!!
May 18, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, John Blutarski said: Leave it to the Phillies offense to make Clevinger look like Cy Young. 9 hours ago, vsptroops said: They've been held to 0 or 1 runs in 9 of their 36 games which is 25%. I swear to god it’s the same Fing story every year. Bullpen, hitting is inconsistent but we get decent starters for most of the season then tails off around end of august. Literally it feels like the same BS each year for like 6 years now
May 18, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Thank God they implemented the DH this year.
May 18, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, iladelphxx said: Thank God they implemented the DH this year. I think he’s likely going to need TJ surgery. At some point i wonder when it becomes smarter to have it so we can preserve 2023 season where he doesn’t miss the bulk of it. If he has the surgery after the season i wonder how much time he miss. hoskins recovery was 4-6 months as he wasn’t a pitcher. Was playing April 1. But harper also plays outfield and it was hoskins’ non throwing arm
May 18, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: I think he’s likely going to need TJ surgery. At some point i wonder when it becomes smarter to have it so we can preserve 2023 season where he doesn’t miss the bulk of it. If he has the surgery after the season i wonder how much time he miss. hoskins recovery was 4-6 months as he wasn’t a pitcher. Was playing April 1. But harper also plays outfield and it was hoskins’ non throwing arm As long as Bryce can hit, they aren't going to shelve him. It'll be interesting to see if this injection actually works. Does anyone know of an athlete who has had this type of injection and never had anymore problems with their UCL? I can't think of anyone. If the Phillies aren't even contending for the 3rd wild card in say late August, early September and Bryce still isn't right, then I can see them talking him into having surgery early.
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