Well looking like Ranger getting moved to the one for the playoffs as at least luzardo you have a chance at really good. Right now Ranger is awful

It will definitely be Wheeler and Sanchez as 1 and 2 in the divisional series. Who will be #3? The way Ranger has looked over the past several starts, I think he goes to bullpen. Then it'll be between Nola and Luzardo.

Ranger is going to tighten it up in October. He always does. But they really, really need to lightly use him in the next 2 months. He's at his best coming off a long rest. He's losing himself a lot of money because value is a ping pong ball...alternating between a mega-deal frontline starter and someone who is a limited starter that is spectacular in stretches but also breaks down with consistent usage over the course of the year. At this point, I think we all know Painter (ready or not) is going to be the #3 next year. So just put Ranger on ice for a bit and warm him up for the playoffs. Unfortunately, they need to wind down Wheeler for a bit too.

They really need Luzardo, Nola, and Walker right now.

Painter not being ready is actually hurting them big time. It would be nice to get a few starts out of him in September.

I know people hate Bohm but they really could use Bohm back. He is a good avg and solid OBP. Frankly I wish Turner was a switch hitter cause can got Turner, Bohm, schwarber and Harper 1-4

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Ranger is going to tighten it up in October. He always does. But they really, really need to lightly use him in the next 2 months. He's at his best coming off a long rest. He's losing himself a lot of money because value is a ping pong ball...alternating between a mega-deal frontline starter and someone who is a limited starter that is spectacular in stretches but also breaks down with consistent usage over the course of the year. At this point, I think we all know Painter (ready or not) is going to be the #3 next year. So just put Ranger on ice for a bit and warm him up for the playoffs. Unfortunately, they need to wind down Wheeler for a bit too.

They really need Luzardo, Nola, and Walker right now.

Painter not being ready is actually hurting them big time. It would be nice to get a few starts out of him in September.

Skenes only went 4 IP gave up 4 ERs small hope for Sanchez

48 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Edmundo really needs to stop playing vs. RHP. Hes hitting .210 and OBP is .225.

But.....but ........ but ....the analytics show he SHOULD be better...... and his splits......and OPS..... WAR......SLG..... wa wa blah blah wa wa.

Hmmm..... hits divided by at bats..... equals average...... and then home runs......is there anything else to see ?

I know I know ...... imma getting old school cranky ..... but it's all I need to determine if a player is any good at hitting.

All those other stats are just so the talking heads can rank guys and then say player " a " hitting .290 is slightly better than player " b " hitting .290

1 hour ago, Steve 17 said:

But.....but ........ but ....the analytics show he SHOULD be better...... and his splits......and OPS..... WAR......SLG..... wa wa blah blah wa wa.

Hmmm..... hits divided by at bats..... equals average...... and then home runs......is there anything else to see ?

I know I know ...... imma getting old school cranky ..... but it's all I need to determine if a player is any good at hitting.

All those other stats are just so the talking heads can rank guys and then say player " a " hitting .290 is slightly better than player " b " hitting .290

I'd say OBP is a more valuable stat than just average. Some of the other more advanced stats I can agree I don't care as much about.

1 hour ago, Steve 17 said:

But.....but ........ but ....the analytics show he SHOULD be better...... and his splits......and OPS..... WAR......SLG..... wa wa blah blah wa wa.

Hmmm..... hits divided by at bats..... equals average...... and then home runs......is there anything else to see ?

I know I know ...... imma getting old school cranky ..... but it's all I need to determine if a player is any good at hitting.

All those other stats are just so the talking heads can rank guys and then say player " a " hitting .290 is slightly better than player " b " hitting .290

7 minutes ago, John Blutarski said:

I'd say OBP is a more valuable stat than just average. Some of the other more advanced stats I can agree I don't care as much about.

IMO, it all tells you something. And the old school vs sabremetric approach both matter.

I agree that OBP is more valuable than batting average. But batting average still tells you something unique and valuable about a hitter with more granularity than OBP. A guy with a disproportionately good OBP but relatively low batting average is probably a nice, selective hitter who gets walks...and generates more runs over the course of a season...but there are also situations where you've got 1-2 outs, guys on 2nd and 3rd, a walk doesn't help you much, and you really just need a base hit. The guy with the high batting average, the forgotten stat, is the one you want at the plate.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

IMO, it all tells you something. And the old school vs sabremetric approach both matter.

I agree that OBP is more valuable than batting average. But batting average still tells you something unique and valuable about a hitter with more granularity than OBP. A guy with a disproportionately good OBP but relatively low batting average is probably a nice, selective hitter who gets walks...and generates more runs over the course of a season...but there are also situations where you've got 1-2 outs, guys on 2nd and 3rd, a walk doesn't help you much, and you really just need a base hit. The guy with the high batting average, the forgotten stat, is the one you want at the plate.

Agreed that batting avg still tells something unique by itself. I was more saying that to me OBP is more important offensive stat overall because a .250 hitter who never walks is not as valuable as a .250 hitter who walks a lot. Getting on base in general is obviously very important. Don't get on base, don't score...

1 hour ago, Steve 17 said:

But.....but ........ but ....the analytics show he SHOULD be better...... and his splits......and OPS..... WAR......SLG..... wa wa blah blah wa wa.

Hmmm..... hits divided by at bats..... equals average...... and then home runs......is there anything else to see ?

I know I know ...... imma getting old school cranky ..... but it's all I need to determine if a player is any good at hitting.

All those other stats are just so the talking heads can rank guys and then say player " a " hitting .290 is slightly better than player " b " hitting .290

You can thank Billy Beane and Moneyball

1 hour ago, Steve 17 said:

But.....but ........ but ....the analytics show he SHOULD be better...... and his splits......and OPS..... WAR......SLG..... wa wa blah blah wa wa.

Hmmm..... hits divided by at bats..... equals average...... and then home runs......is there anything else to see ?

I know I know ...... imma getting old school cranky ..... but it's all I need to determine if a player is any good at hitting.

All those other stats are just so the talking heads can rank guys and then say player " a " hitting .290 is slightly better than player " b " hitting .290

Issue with Edmundo is more he plays the more he gets exposed. It’s always been that way with him. It’s why when he was traded he was expected to be a utility infielder. Play once or twice a week. He’s been playing everyday since Bohm got hurt. Frankly his slashes over his last 45 games since his best performance of the 4 hit game aren’t great and since Bohm got hurt are awful vs. RHP and not great overall. He is what he is, a utility infielder that can play a couple games a week but more he plays the more he’s exposed as a bench guy

In his last 45 games:

.217/.252/.380/.632

Since Bohm went on IL:

.245/.259/.434/.693

Vs. RHP: .194/.194/.419/.613 ( his season numbers vs. RHP: .210/.225/.350/.575)

He is just not good against RHP and proven to be worse when he’s gotten more chances with Bohm out.

To Edmundo’s credit his numbers this year vs. LHP are ridiculous and don’t really match what he’s been for his career. This year .337/.394/.512/.906. Career .269/.325/.470/.795.

13 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Skenes only went 4 IP gave up 4 ERs small hope for Sanchez

I hope his arm falls off lol

23 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

I hope his arm falls off lol

I think there’s a chance that skenes cause he’s never pitched this many innings or for this long of a season that he begins to tail off at the end of the year and give Sanchez a shot at it. Likely? Probably not but i don’t think it’s out of the realm

This is shaping up like the 4th game in a row we haven’t had a hit thru first 3 innings and 3rd game in a row thru 4 innings

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This is shaping up like the 4th game in a row we haven’t had a hit thru first 3 innings and 3rd game in a row thru 4 innings

Thank you Stott for the reverse jinx!

Just saying schwarber and Harper have been brutally bad for most of this road trip.

Schwarber is 2-21 with 2 HRs and 3 RBi

Harper is 2-21 with 1 HR and 2 RBI

This team can’t hit again. Their season is 100% coming down to which bats show up. Frankly watching a lot of different teams i think brewers and padres are better if wheeler isn’t 100%

Good to have the Phillies back to form

4 minutes ago, RoadToHell said:

Good to have the Phillies back to form

Odds that 6 game lead becomes 2 by the time we face the Mets?

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Odds that 6 game lead becomes 2 by the time we face the Mets?

100%

Out of the 25 innings they have played in this series so far, they've scored in 2 of them.

There’s 0% chance Romano makes the postseason roster right?