Typical Phillies. Score 10 runs one game and get shutout the next. Also typical Phillies, losing a series to the Marlins. Is Wheeler still on his spring training routine or can we start to be concerned? For the love of God, they can't hit nor pitch. 

Another clutch homer for harper

We ended up not going to the game today.  Toddler woke up sick.  And look what happens......  

On 4/15/2022 at 11:03 PM, Green_Guinness said:

Holy ish.  WTF happened to him?  That's like the difference between Haden Christensen and the guy Luke popped out of the suit in ROTJ. 

 

Mental health issues

Wheeler looks washed.  This season ended in a hurry.

5 hours ago, vsptroops said:

Typical Phillies. Score 10 runs one game and get shutout the next. Also typical Phillies, losing a series to the Marlins. Is Wheeler still on his spring training routine or can we start to be concerned? For the love of God, they can't hit nor pitch. 

Or field.  Otherwise, they're fine!

1 hour ago, therealdawk said:

Or field.  Otherwise, they're fine!

Or run the bases.  But besides that we got ourselves a solid team!

1 hour ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Or run the bases.  But besides that we got ourselves a solid team!

Or field…

Look it hasn’t been a good start, but let’s maybe wait more than two weeks before we start freaking out. Unless I’m misremembering, even during their good run years from ‘08-‘11 they always started slow. Not saying this team is like those ones, but you can’t overreact in April. 

1 hour ago, nipples said:

Look it hasn’t been a good start, but let’s maybe wait more than two weeks before we start freaking out. Unless I’m misremembering, even during their good run years from ‘08-‘11 they always started slow. Not saying this team is like those ones, but you can’t overreact in April. 

Honestly i think they’ve tuned out Girardi.  These guys are already just going through the motions.  That’s a direct reflection on the manager.  That combined with a poorly constructed roster, no pitching and no speed is not a recipe for success.  This lineup was built to be able to consistently score runs.  They haven’t done that.  Their pitching obviously can’t overcome the prolonged cold streaks.  I don’t doubt they’ll get hot at some point, but it’s not going to be sustained enough to make the playoffs.

48 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Pitching is not what it will be later in the year.  None of those guys got the work they are used to getting in Feb and March.  I am concerned about the offense and Giardi.  But then again....I didn't like the last manager as some sensitive little bish pointed out....Just let me know when everyone has joined on board the anti-Girardi express.  

I'm sort of the opposite.

The bats will come around.  The problem remains that the Phils still have precious few .300 type hitters.  Launch angle power hitters?  Yes.  Moneyball OBP guys who get on base despite mediocre contact?  Yes.  Those both matter and we've got them.  But, IMO, and no one has yet mathematically proved it in the analytics era, but our lack of high batting average barrel to ball reliable contact hitters is the primary reason that the offense is just so wildly streaky year in, year out.  Too darn hot and cold.  They are cold right now.  And the hot phase, the runs, and the winning streak will come.  That's a major concern in a postseason run...a bit less of a concern for getting to the post-season.  Over the full course of a season, they'll get their runs.

I do worry about the pitching...not the bullpen.  That's icing on the cake that can be fixed at a deadline.  It's the starting pitching.  Ranger Suarez was always fool's gold.  A lefty long reliever/back of rotation starter with ordinary stuff puts up great numbers in his first pass through the majors.  That's not a building block...that's a filler.  I don't trust Nola to be a #2 in a competitive rotation, especially a rotation that is theoretically top heavy without great depth.  And Wheeler...he's the best thing we've got going and I still do trust him despite a rough start to the season.  Put it all together and the starting rotation is more hurt then help.

The funny thing...and this won't be a popular take...is that the best thing the Phillies have going for them is the ownership.  Only a tiny fraction of MLB teams have ownership that has both the required interest in winning and resources to actually pay for a competitive roster.  The Phillies are one of those teams.  In major league baseball, that's 90% of the battle and we actually have it.  The problem is that the coaching, drafting, communication...basically everything...with prospect identification and development is amongst the absolute worst in all of baseball.  It is simultaneously both pathetic and impressive that this is a .500 team with the money they put into it and the production they get from their home-grown players.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I'm sort of the opposite.

The bats will come around.  The problem remains that the Phils still have precious few .300 type hitters.  Launch angle power hitters?  Yes.  Moneyball OBP guys who get on base despite mediocre contact?  Yes.  Those both matter and we've got them.  But, IMO, and no one has yet mathematically proved it in the analytics era, but our lack of high batting average barrel to ball reliable contact hitters is the primary reason that the offense is just so wildly streaky year in, year out.  Too darn hot and cold.  They are cold right now.  And the hot phase, the runs, and the winning streak will come.  That's a major concern in a postseason run...a bit less of a concern for getting to the post-season.  Over the full course of a season, they'll get their runs.

I do worry about the pitching...not the bullpen.  That's icing on the cake that can be fixed at a deadline.  It's the starting pitching.  Ranger Suarez was always fool's gold.  A lefty long reliever/back of rotation starter with ordinary stuff puts up great numbers in his first pass through the majors.  That's not a building block...that's a filler.  I don't trust Nola to be a #2 in a competitive rotation, especially a rotation that is theoretically top heavy without great depth.  And Wheeler...he's the best thing we've got going and I still do trust him despite a rough start to the season.  Put it all together and the starting rotation is more hurt then help.

Wheeler looks washed.  Gibson is a solid 3-4.  Nola, Suarez and Eflin are back of rotation guys.  The rotation is abysmal.

@eagle45

I pretty much agree...... ownership? Yeah ol John is feeling his age and wants to go out a winner..... problem right now is fixing the last decade of cruddy team management.

Scouting and minors development have been a joke. Gotta have a quality, stars in the making, core of at least 5 or 6 players on a roster that come through the system together. Then a few more that are solid but average every day players. 

They have to find the balance between analytics and the old eye test to be able to fill the minors with decent players to develop. 

Then they have to find a solid working principle for hitters and pitchers that stays consistent on all levels as the players move up.

Then you can fill in the majors with FA's around your core....... but even then ..... FA's are an issue since most of the time you are picking up a player that is nearly halfway through their career. 

I don't see the organization being in that place right now.

Bottom line is they aren't ready yet, but they could get hot and make it to the post season ..... and make some noise but not nearly enough. 

 

36 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

This offense has been so fun this year.  

It’s ok.  It’s early!

Speaking of it being early, these mofus are lucky most fans in this city are being distracted by the Sixers and upcoming draft.  They need to get their ish together before the smokes clears. 

17 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm not freaking out. 

I’d be freaking out but this is par for the course for the past decade. so it’s more normalcy now. 

They suck

This platoon infield project should be enough to show Girardi the door. When is the last time a contender went with a platoon infield? 

6'7" Righty who throws 99.....   Hopefully he can stay healthy and move quickly through the system

Who can they sell at the deadline? Pretty much everyone should be on the block.

2 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Who can they sell at the deadline? Pretty much everyone should be on the block.

Harper

39 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Harper

/ban