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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

You mean Alvarado, thomson, harper....etc

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2 minutes ago, Know Life said:

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I don't hate everyone

 

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Harper and Schwarber last night 0-8 with 7 strikeouts between the two of them. That's never going to win against quality pitching. The offense is just pathetic on this team. Topper and Long should be shitcanned.

1 hour ago, John Blutarski said:

Harper and Schwarber last night 0-8 with 7 strikeouts between the two of them. That's never going to win against quality pitching. The offense is just pathetic on this team. Topper and Long should be shitcanned.

At this point we might just have to accept they aren’t a good team and they are an average to slightly below average baseball team. Since they went to Colorado they are 36-38. That’s 74 games or 46% of the season. They were hot for April and May cause the schedule broke their way. Lot of easy teams. And 3 of the teams over .500 in SF, Padres and Mets weren’t playing well at that time. since baseball is a long season, you evolve as a team over the course of 6 months. Teams like the dbacks, padres, brewers have gotten better over the course of the year. The Phillies have gotten significantly worse with each passing month. Their hitting has been regressing. Their bullpen has regressed. And even their starting pitching has regressed. Peaked in April and May and haven’t been able to recover

this goes back to their offseason. They were arrogant in the fact they got to the nlcs and thought they didn’t need to make moves to improve the roster besides Merrifield. They believed they’d just fix their hitting issues and guys would get better. Instead marsh has regressed. Stott has regressed. Rojas really hasn’t made the jump they envisioned. Harper has gotten worse with each week since coming back from his injury. Realmuto is on the decline and needs to be in a platoon. Bohm is the only hitter who’s improved. Turner has been better than last year. Castellanos has been about what he was last year. The bullpen is much worse than last year. Alvarado is a disaster. Dominguez and Soto were what they were last year. Hoffman and strahm have been regressing since the AS break. Kerkering has been bad since beginning of July. Factor in their deadline moves have done next to nothing to help the team as hays is hurt and estevez has been regressing from what he was with the angels.

said before the season doing nothing in the offseason would be the reason they’d take a step back. I was shocked they were playing as well as they were in April and May. But league caught up to them as they are progressively getting worse as other teams are evolving and getting better. I don’t even think I’d consider them one of the 10 best in baseball right now with how they’ve played since London 

August = thank goodness the Eagles season starts soon

December = thank goodness pitchers and catchers report soon

A positive is that I’m up $30 emotionally hedge betting against them since I started last Tuesday vs. the marlins 

It’s clear, this team doesn’t have "it”. The last two years they were better. The offense was good enough to bail them out before. The offense is no longer good enough. 

43 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

It’s clear, this team doesn’t have "it”. The last two years they were better. The offense was good enough to bail them out before. The offense is no longer good enough. 

The offense wasn’t good enough last year. When you go look at the stats during the playoffs with runners in scoring position, they were bad. They just managed to survive because they hit enough home runs that it didn’t matter until the last 5 games of the NLCS. When you go 217, 219, 230 with RISP in 3 series (and the 230 is inflated because game two they were 5-7 and the rest of the series they hit .160) you weren’t good enough you were destined to fail when the HR drought came 

The fact that they were arrogant enough all off-season to just sit there and not do anything except add a utility/ bench guy like Whit Merrifield was ridiculous. Your arrogance at the trade deadline last year likely lost you in NLCS. Because we all knew as soon as Hoskins went down they needed a power right handed bat at that deadline. Phillies cheap ass solution was Rudolfo Castro. who sucks . And then all off-season you could’ve went out and got somebody. There were guys out there like Hernandez, Bellinger and others and they didnt break the bank and you just didn’t wanna do it. You believe guys would just be better and fix their issues.  Veterans of 7 years or more are what they are. Kevin long hasn’t improved the young guys except for Bohm. And then you got to the deadline this year, and your solution was Austin Hays. I like  Hays, but  Hays isn’t a marginal upgrade if that.

this goes back to your roster construction and arrogance. After losing in the NLCS they thought they didn’t need to add. Everybody kept saying  oh look they’re spending money to signed their own guys. It didn’t Fing matter because your team stayed the same and didn’t improve. You took leaps of faith that didn’t pay off and had no other solution to the issues if that happened except for a 35 utility player. Literally look at every contender in the NL around the Phillies. All of them made  moves and additions to improve the team except for maybe the brewers and they still added a big bat in Hoskins after trading burnes. phillies sat there and didn’t do anything. So what did you think was gonna happen? The rest of the league wasn’t gonna catch up to you or use the plan that the diamondbacks employed to beat you? The arrogance is why they kind of deserve to completely collapse. 

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

He has alot of wear and tear, and playing first base has not helped, it is not the easy position many make it out to be

23 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

He has alot of wear and tear, and playing first base has not helped, it is not the easy position many make it out to be

The whole having playing him at first as such Fing BS. 1 more year in LF/RF wouldn’t have deteriorated Bryce. If it was going to deteriorate him that much then we have bigger problems that he was going to fall off a cliff sooner rather than later. It was BS excuse for the Phillies who just didn’t want to retain Rhys thinking they didn’t need him and spend the money to go into another tax threshold.

a issue not talked about is that they lack HR power outside of like 3 guys. Turner, schwarber and Harper are homerun hitters. And Turner is less so than the other. But everyone else isn’t a HR. Bohm is a doubles hitter. Castellanos every other year isn’t giving you more than 25. Last 4 years (162 game not 2020) Castellanos has gone 34, 13, 29 and 16. Marsh, Stott and Rojas just aren’t homerun hitters. realmuto isn’t at this stage of his career. They let Rhys and 30 HRs and 80 RBI averages last 3 years (162 game seasons) and didn’t replace him. They just hoped guys would step up and it’s still a massive hole that needs to be fixed 

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The whole having playing him at first as such Fing BS. 1 more year in LF/RF wouldn’t have deteriorated Bryce. If it was going to deteriorate him that much then we have bigger problems that he was going to fall off a cliff sooner rather than later. It was BS excuse for the Phillies who just didn’t want to retain Rhys thinking they didn’t need him and spend the money to go into another tax threshold.

a issue not talked about is that they lack HR power outside of like 3 guys. Turner, schwarber and Harper are homerun hitters. And Turner is less so than the other. But everyone else isn’t a HR. Bohm is a doubles hitter. Castellanos every other year isn’t giving you more than 25. Last 4 years (162 game not 2020) Castellanos has gone 34, 13, 29 and 16. Marsh, Stott and Rojas just aren’t homerun hitters. realmuto isn’t at this stage of his career. They let Rhys and 30 HRs and 80 RBI averages last 3 years (162 game seasons) and didn’t replace him. They just hoped guys would step up and it’s still a massive hole that needs to be fixed 

Only point I dont agree with is I dont consider Turner a HR hitter. Turner's career average is 15 HR per season where Castellanos is 17 HR per season. I don't think either of them is a powerhouse in the lineup but Turner is a better hitter for average than power. Point is there isn't a lot of power in the lineup outside of Harper and Schwarber consistently and they definitely miss Rhys power in the middle of that lineup and his ability to grind out ABs.

39 minutes ago, John Blutarski said:

Only point I dont agree with is I dont consider Turner a HR hitter. Turner's career average is 15 HR per season where Castellanos is 17 HR per season. I don't think either of them is a powerhouse in the lineup but Turner is a better hitter for average than power. Point is there isn't a lot of power in the lineup outside of Harper and Schwarber consistently and they definitely miss Rhys power in the middle of that lineup and his ability to grind out ABs.

His last 3 years he’s hit 28, 21 and 26. Early in his career he hit for less power then he has the past 3 years. This year he’d be on pace for 27 HRs if he didn’t miss the time he did. I agree he’s not schwarber and Harper but his average the last 3 seasons has been 25 HRs. The 2020 year he was on pace for 33. I don’t think he is your typical power hitter but for the most part, he’s probably gonna give you somewhere between 21 and 28 home runs per season, which is probably the third best homer hitter. Which speaks to the bigger problem that when Hoskins walked out that door, they didn’t have a consistent 3rd 30 homerun guy and like you said they don’t have that grinder in the middle of the lineup. Because he grind at bats and makes pitchers work other guys get mistake pitches around him. When they signed Turner it wasn’t the production of Hoskins. It was to implement him into the lineup to make the lineup deeper and Hoskins to be your middle of the lineup power behind Harper 
 

Back to what he was with us 

 

Thankfully we have cal Stevenson on the roster 

 

Schwarber has been brutal since that 3 homer game against the dodgers outside of the Grand slam vs. marlins. His slashes are .136/.235/.227/.463

Top 3 guys so far this series: 0-15 with 8 Ks. 

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I’m gonna post major league and major league 2 gifs after every half inning to describe the game. So at least we get some value out of watching this team 

Phillies offense after 3:

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We're getting raped by merrifield 

Nola in the 3rd:

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Phillies in the top of the 4th:

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Nola in the 4th:

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I'm turning this off 

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