9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Stupid.

 

You don’t bench your up and coming 3rd baseman because he’s on a slump.

 

The kid almost won the HR derby this year.  Flirts with .300 BA every year and has power.  Excellent on defense.

 

Bad. Topper, Bad 

If they lose today and lose this series - this could be Topper’s last hurrah 

I tend to think he’s hurt. That hand injury was probably worse than the Phillies wanted to admit. He’s hit .170 since that injury 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I tend to think he’s hurt. That hand injury was probably worse than the Phillies wanted to admit. He’s hit .170 since that injury 

Understood. Then they need to disclose it. 
 

It makes little sense and the optics are horrible.   They need to say "Bohm is a little banged up and or/has a nagging injury”  or he tweaked something etc - that’s why we let him rest - or something along those lines 

17 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Stupid.

 

You don’t bench your up and coming 3rd baseman because he’s on a slump.

 

The kid almost won the HR derby this year.  Flirts with .300 BA every year and has power.  Excellent on defense.

 

Bad. Topper, Bad 

If they lose today and lose this series - this could be Topper’s last hurrah 

He isn’t going anywhere 

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Understood. Then they need to disclose it. 
 

It makes little sense and the optics are horrible.   They need to say "Bohm is a little banged up and or/has a nagging injury” that’s why we let him rest - or something along those lines 

Probably will get something with topper’s pregame presser 

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

He isn’t going anywhere 

He’s only gone after this year if he leaves on his own accord. If they come back and slump to start 2025 then i think a chance they fire him early. 

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

He isn’t going anywhere 

For now. 95 win season and one and done in the playoffs?  
 

Go listen to WIP.  
 

Without fanbase loyalty the Phillies will lose tens of millions per year.

 

I like Topper.  I agree with him 90% of the the time - the guy knows baseball. 

 

EXCEPT when he overthinks things 

This is one of those occasions 

Wouldn’t be entirely shocked if Bohm isn’t back next year. If they can’t land Soto, I think bregman being available and then can use Bohm and prospects to upgrade an OF spot. Bohm is 28 and bregman is 30. The fact of the matter is Bohm has value in a trade but also is due a new contract after 2026 when he’s going to be 30.

part of me thinks the Phillies are tired of him pouting in the way he does when things aren’t going well. There’s a piece of me that feels the Phillies believe at 28 years old he should be more mature and not allow his pouting to effect his game. 

They need one of their 10 run efforts today go get some mojo back.  

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They need one of their 10 run efforts today go get some mojo back.  

Idk they score 10 today that just means Tuesday they are scoring 2

From Matt gleb’s article on the athletic 

PHILADELPHIA — Sometime Saturday night, not long enough for the sting of a Game 1 loss to dissipate, Rob Thomson texted Alec Bohm. The Phillies manager had to tell him once he knew for sure.

Bohm, one of the team’s best run producers during the season, was being benched for Game 2 of the National League Division Series against the New York Mets. Edmundo Sosa is starting at third base. It’s a rare move by Thomson, who will tweak his lineup whenever there is a platoon advantage to gain. But in this case, Sosa is a righty hitter facing a righty starter in Luis Severino.

Bohm went 0-for-4 in Game 1. He saw a mere seven pitches in those four at-bats. He batted cleanup for much of the year but moved down to fifth in the season’s final weekend. That is where he hit in Game 1. It was the first sign the Phillies were concerned about the 28-year-old’s current state.

"He’s scuffling a little bit,” Thomson said. "It’s not like there aren’t other guys scuffling in the lineup. But I just wanted to get some energy in the lineup. And I think Sosa is kind of our energy guy. Run around and do some things. Maybe create some things.”

Bohm came into Thomson’s office Sunday morning to discuss the decision further. "He wants to play no doubt,” Thomson said. "But he’s a pro.” Thomson told Bohm to be ready to pinch hit. He’ll probably have a chance to later in the game.

Thomson takes pride in his steadiness. But this could be perceived in the clubhouse as a hint of panic. Thomson disagreed with that notion. Bohm, an All-Star starter, hit .280/.332/.448 in the regular season. He missed two weeks in September with a hand injury, but Thomson repeatedly said Sunday that Bohm is healthy. He has not appeared on the team’s injury reports. Thomson said Bohm will play Game 3 at Citi Field when the Phillies face a lefty, Sean Manaea.

Bohm has not hidden his frustration. He slammed his helmet after another failed at-bat Saturday afternoon.

"He is frustrated,” Thomson said. "I get it. But you have to keep playing.”
 

So they texted him last night to tell him this. They didn’t even do it in person. Which tells me that the manager and the front office had a discussion about sitting him. If Thomson was solely making the decision i think it’s told to him after the game. Which feels like there is more to this story than just Edmundo Sosa bringing them energy.

I have a feeling the organization is irritated by Alec bohm’s immaturity. (Have a feeling there’s been more behind the scenes we likely don’t know about). That last sentence of the article alludes to that. Thomson is not going to say you gotta keep playing even though you’re frustrated for no reason. It seems like he gets frustrated then starts pouting and then can’t focus on what he needs to do. Which is a problem because he is 28 years old. He’s not young anymore.

tbh i wouldn’t be surprised if they move off on him and sell with two years of arbitration left and off his best season. In two years when he is 30 they might not want to pay him. The time to do it would be now because he has two cheap years arbitration and you could probably trade him an upgrade for one of the outfield spots. And then have at third base Adrian Miller, who might be called up sometime next year. Or you can simply say to yourself why don’t we just sign Alex Bregman and then when Miller is ready he may replace Stott who they might not want to pay either. 

Reality is they have no good young players and older players with big contracts, could be looking at a decade of no playoffs

7 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Reality is they have no good young players and older players with big contracts, could be looking at a decade of no playoffs

Nah.
 Middleton is a great owner.  

Harper is a solid cornerstone.

Don’t lose faith because of a few questionable decisions.

 

Basically what they were last year. It was laughable they thought they were just going to fix the chase rate issue in the offseason

 

Lol

 

I said it before the series, I'll say it f'ing again....keep the bats on the motherf'ing shoulders until 3-0, 3-1...then...take a hack and if miss, put bat back on shoulder and take the walk.

26 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

I said it before the series, I'll say it f'ing again....keep the bats on the motherf'ing shoulders until 3-0, 3-1...then...take a hack and if miss, put bat back on shoulder and take the walk.

It’s not who they are. Harper and schwarber when locked in are that. Everyone else just isn’t. Hoskins was kind of like that cause he’d see a ton of pitches so he’d at least foul off bad pitches. 

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Reality is they have no good young players and older players with big contracts, could be looking at a decade of no playoffs

theyre going after Soto in free agency and the minors have some pieces to use and move. its not going to be a decade long. 

9 minutes ago, 700Level4Life said:

theyre going after Soto in free agency and the minors have some pieces to use and move. its not going to be a decade long. 

Think there’s a better chance Stott or Bohm is moved than minors players. Bohm is due for an extension at the end of 2026. He’ll be 30. Stott is due at the end of 2027. Miller is taking over one of their spots. Or he’s moving to SS and Turner is taking over 2B. Frankly Bohm has more trade value coming off the season he has. Ricky Bottalico on the radio this morning after the news came out about Bohm being benched alluded to the fact the organization is irritated with his pouting. 

Bryce doesn’t swing the bat the first 4 pitches he’s have had a walk that at bat. 

That call was BS

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Think there’s a better chance Stott or Bohm is moved than minors players. Bohm is due for an extension at the end of 2026. He’ll be 30. Stott is due at the end of 2027. Miller is taking over one of their spots. Or he’s moving to SS and Turner is taking over 2B. Frankly Bohm has more trade value coming off the season he has. Ricky Bottalico on the radio this morning after the news came out about Bohm being benched alluded to the fact the organization is irritated with his pouting. 

my thing with stott and bohm, theyre average players at best, that if the didnt play in Philly, the average Phillie fan, would have no idea who they were. If you can get something for them....id move them in a second. 

Well at least the defense showed up

5 minutes ago, 700Level4Life said:

my thing with stott and bohm, theyre average players at best, that if the didnt play in Philly, the average Phillie fan, would have no idea who they were. If you can get something for them....id move them in a second. 

Tend to think Bohm is an above average player. Just not an all star. I think you probably could exchange him and get a solid OF. Stott is likely an average player. 

7 minutes ago, 700Level4Life said:

my thing with stott and bohm, theyre average players at best, that if the didnt play in Philly, the average Phillie fan, would have no idea who they were. If you can get something for them....id move them in a second. 

I haven't disliked a Phillies player as much as Stott in a long time