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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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25 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i mean, would there be any dropoff at all if they sat marsh and called up crawford at this point? 

i know there would some cons in doing that, but c'mon.

 

No dropoff.

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2 hours ago, vsptroops said:

Why the hell was Bohm batting cleanup? Him and Marsh should be battling for the 8th and 9th spots in the order. While not ideal, Castellanos needs to be the cleanup guy for now on when Schwarber leads off. He's streaky as hell but he's also the best of what they have for that spot.

Bohm needs to be sent down to Triple A to send a message. They don't have the stones to do that though. 

Robby T is an idiot. He will leave it this way.

5 hours ago, vsptroops said:

Why the hell was Bohm batting cleanup? Him and Marsh should be battling for the 8th and 9th spots in the order. While not ideal, Castellanos needs to be the cleanup guy for now on when Schwarber leads off. He's streaky as hell but he's also the best of what they have for that spot.

Bohm needs to be sent down to Triple A to send a message. They don't have the stones to do that though. 

Same reason they have realmuto batting 4-6 when he’s not a middle of the lineup guy anymore. Saw last night and this season when he’s 7-9 spot he’s fine. Cause he doesn’t get RBI opportunities as much. He’s still not great but at least serviceable offensively when he’s out of the middle.

bohm has never been a 3-5 hitter. Ideally 6th behind your cleanup and 5 hole hitter like Castellanos. Issue is the Phillies for the last 3 years don’t have a cleanup hitter unless they move schwarber into the cleanup spot which they only do against LH. They’ve needed a cleanup hitter since Rhys got hurt. It’s why i still want them to go after Tucker. I don’t care about the years and money. If they win a WS with him and he sucks for 6 years of the contract so be it. Tbh likely are going to have Nola, Turner and maybe even Harper not be good all at the same time for a few years and hindering our ability to add and win. Might as well just go all in on signing Tucker in FA and hoping we break through in one of his first couple years. 

38 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i mean, would there be any dropoff at all if they sat marsh and called up crawford at this point? 

i know there would some cons in doing that, but c'mon.

 

Probably wouldn’t. They won’t call him up until they can get past the accrued season being effected. Which frankly is understandable as it gives them like half a year in 2025 and an extra year on the backend of a cheap contract 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Probably wouldn’t. They won’t call him up until they can get past the accrued season being effected. Which frankly is understandable as it gives them like half a year in 2025 and an extra year on the backend of a cheap contract 

yeah, that's the big con i knew of in doing it now versus after sometime in june, i think is the timeline is? 

7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

yeah, that's the big con i knew of in doing it now versus after sometime in june, i think is the timeline is? 

If Crawford keeps hitting this way in triple A i think middle of June is when he gets called up. There’s a certain amount of days if he’s in the majors that counts as an accrued season. Tbh i think they’d have him up earlier than that if it weren’t for that. Tbh i also think the Phillies are stubborn so they’ll give marsh and bohm more than 10 games. Even though marsh has been bad since July and a .238 hitter since beginning of may last year with a unimpressive OBP and OPS 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If Crawford keeps hitting this way in triple A i think middle of June is when he gets called up. There’s a certain amount of days if he’s in the majors that counts as an accrued season. Tbh i think they’d have him up earlier than that if it weren’t for that. Tbh i also think the Phillies are stubborn so they’ll give marsh and bohm more than 10 games. Even though marsh has been bad since July and a .238 hitter since beginning of may last year with a unimpressive OBP and OPS 

yep and marsh is what he is at this point. there's no upside, the ceiling has been hit. 

45 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

yep and marsh is what he is at this point. there's no upside, the ceiling has been hit. 

At the time of that trade, I said it was a bad trade. When you go look around major-league baseball and guys traded in the last 5 years who were top 100 prospects, they almost never go for a player you had to fix and develop. On top of trading a top 100 prospect, he was a catching prospect with tremendous offensive upside. In a league that’s desperate for hitting catchers. You should have gotten way more just for his potential upside than what they got. Especially when the angels were basically giving up on him a year and a half after being their top prospect. That should’ve been a major red flag, which I said at the time.

They rushed it because they wanted a better outfielder at the time than what they had. So they traded him away knowing he was never going to overtake Jt. But they could’ve either gotten a better and more proven OF or waited until the off-season to make that move. 

 

Might as well try him as most of the pen is shaky anyway 

 

37 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

He’s a very good DH. I wonder what an extension would look like. Could $70m over 3 years get it done?

2 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

He’s a very good DH. I wonder what an extension would look like. Could $70m over 3 years get it done?

I’m guessing it’s closer to 3 for 90. Might even be able to get a 4th year just cause someone might be willing to in the open market 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m guessing it’s closer to 3 for 90. Might even be able to get a 4th year just cause someone might be willing to in the open market 

I’d walk away in that case if he’s looking for that much or that many years. Can’t be paying a pure DH that kind of coin. He’d be making more per year than Harper which wouldn’t sit well IMO.

I'm good with re-signing Schwarber. Hopefully he doesn't want some stupid 7 year deal. 3 or 4 years would be good because at that time, Bryce's days in the field could possibly be over and then he could slide into the DH spot for the rest of his contract. 

Just now, Blazehound said:

I’d walk away in that case if he’s looking for that much or that many years. Can’t be paying a pure DH that kind of coin. He’d be making more per year than Harper which wouldn’t sit well IMO.

Tbh it’s about when you hit the market. There’s more money now. It’s why harper never should’ve signed a 13 year deal without a couple opt outs. 

This is gonna be a hard team to watch in a few years

 

I’d like to see the t ball stand take a chance against marsh and bohm 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d like to see the t ball stand take a chance against marsh and bohm 

Guaranteed routine ground balls. Waste of space right now those two.

Our minor league outfield is better than our major league outfield…

 

Looking at the radar, it seems about 11 or so the rain will let up

Runner at 3rd and of course realmuto flies out in the first pitch

If Romano has a 1-2-3 inning and no one is up to see it, does it count? 

marsh, Bohm and Rojas are waste of roster spots right now. 

Turner of course chased ball 4. Losing their first series tonight  

Lol Turner and Castellanos swinging at crap that entire inning 

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