All tonight means is that they’ll get shut out the next two games

15 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

All tonight means is that they’ll get shut out the next two games

Plus temps in the 80s, some nukes gonna be launched tonight against nola most likely

45 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Plus temps in the 80s, some nukes gonna be launched tonight against nola most likely

Agreed - he’ll definitely give up a homer within the first 2 innings

Typical Nola - team gets a lead and he gives it right back next inning

I don't know which is worse- watching Walker pitch or Nola. At least after this year we will be done with Walker.

Just hit the Grand slam and put them out of their misery

Luzardo out here just tossing BP for the Cubs

Just now, mikemack8 said:

Luzardo out here just tossing BP for the Cubs

He’s becoming Nola every other year is good

Slopper needs to be canned

1 minute ago, Blazehound said:

Slopper needs to be canned

Tbh let them flounder so at the deadline they can sell and get prospects. Then fire Dave and Thomson

I'm not saying this to gloat...because I'd much, much rather have a baseball team to be excited about. And they WILL go on a run and have some bright spots. So it's not ALL doom and gloom. Just a rough spot early.

BUT...BUT...I really wonder how any professional front office executive expected much better than this, this year.

The writing has been on the wall that the rotation would take a meaningful step back. Zach Wheeler transitioning from the conversation for best pitcher in all of baseball to a mid-rotation quality starter needs to be anticipated. Painter having a 2nd half fatigue-induced regression that leaves him a meaningful step back from 2025 Ranger needs to be anticipated. Luzardo...well, him being a disaster is a genuine surprise, but he's always been a fairly volatile pitcher. Put it all together and that's a pretty good rotation, but certainly not a rotation that is capable of carrying a team...and a regressed one from last year.

The lineup? I feel like some people expected them to defy the laws of physics. Aging players with reliable, linear decline don't just miraculously have MVP seasons. 33 year olds coming off career years don't repeat them. And other 4-5 aging decent bats don't just maintain the same collective productivity. Hint: it gets worse.

This was always going to be a team that struggled to make the playoffs based off eroded talent. It's hard to explain how they did not see it. Which brings me to the point....1. either they didn't see it and that is very concerning. 2. Or, maybe they did...and they spent untold millions in the offseason investing in a failed roster just to save face instead of making the tough, but necessary decisions.

I'm not sure which one is worse. And with DD, I tend to lean #2. I really think anyone around this team should have and likely did see this coming.

Harper with a clutch homer

This team Fn blows.

2 stats that are suboptimal: the Phillies are 2-4 in actual series and they have the 3rd worst run differential in all of baseball.

If they don't manage a 2-1 series win at home against the Braves, there is going to be a complete collapse of confidence in the team.

Going to see Walker, Sanchez vs Sale, and Painter.

Its going to be tough to get 2.

Same shiz, different year. They can score 12-15 runs in back to back games and then not score 5 runs the next 4 games. I lied, its not quite the same. Somehow they managed to be worse. Can't hit in general, can't hit with men in scoring position, can't run the bases, and now both the starting and relieve pitching are not good. No one on the team seems to care or have a sense of urgency. They are either ok being mediocre or they are delusional thinking they can turn it on later. Either way, the mindset and attitude of this team stink. Bohm and Stott suck and the main guys are mostly washed besides maybe Schwarber.

12 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Same shiz, different year. They can score 12-15 runs in back to back games and then not score 5 runs the next 4 games. I lied, its not quite the same. Somehow they managed to be worse. Can't hit in general, can't hit with men in scoring position, can't run the bases, and now both the starting and relieve pitching are not good. No one on the team seems to care or have a sense of urgency. They are either ok being mediocre or they are delusional thinking they can turn it on later. Either way, the mindset and attitude of this team stink. Bohm and Stott suck and the main guys are mostly washed besides maybe Schwarber.

All starts at top - DD and Topper are the biggest issues here.

4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

All starts at top - DD and Topper are the biggest issues here.

Kevin Long needed to be fired a couple seasons ago. If you can't change the players, you need to try to change something when it doesn't work over and over.

The only saving grace will be if they miss the playoffs and Middleton gets the balls to finally crap can DD, Topper, and Long.

10 minutes ago, John Blutarski said:

The only saving grace will be if they miss the playoffs and Middleton gets the balls to finally crap can DD, Topper, and Long.

I think @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! hit the nail on the head when he said that they need to just completely collapse before the trade deadline so they are sellers instead of buyers - start dismantling this shitshow

9 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I think @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! hit the nail on the head when he said that they need to just completely collapse before the trade deadline so they are sellers instead of buyers - start dismantling this shitshow

That shouldn't be an issue.

2 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

I think @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! hit the nail on the head when he said that they need to just completely collapse before the trade deadline so they are sellers instead of buyers - start dismantling this shitshow

Who are they selling of any significant value?

33 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Who are they selling of any significant value?

Valid point - most of our core is locked up for many years and also already old so not much value there. Guess we're screwed

5 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

Valid point - most of our core is locked up for many years and also already old so not much value there. Guess we're screwed

Been saying this for 2 years, no World Series possibility until at least mid 30s

Blow it up