1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

That's odd. What makes you think this isn't his defense? Howie got a bunch of FA and drafted players for him

He runs Fangio’s system almost to a tee. It’s basically a "what would Fangio do” Defense. Except Fangio developed it for a specific team under specific circumstances.

Ugh. Forgot all about this. Andy gutted us again.

Thank God for Nick Foles and 2017.

5 minutes ago, Thrive said:

In about 2-4 years, I’d suspect that Gannon becomes one of the best defensive coordinators in this league. Right now, he is still running someone else’s scheme and isn’t a true coordinator yet. He is basically copying and pasting from Fangio.

The question is, can we afford to wait? Presumably if he doesn’t get a head coaching gig this year, he won’t after 2023 with a worse team. And if next year is a wasted year anyway, maybe worth sucking it up and giving him the year to continue to develop. He desperately needs to move on from Fangio’s system and start coaching with some common sense and creativity.

If he's copying and pasting Fangio then he isn't doing a great job of it.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Doesn't matter if the number 1 offense in the NFL being led by the number 1 QB scored a lot of points.  It's Gannon's fault.

Damn right it is. You give Spag that talent and he would have done a crap ton better.  

8 minutes ago, greend said:

Taking the risk of getting burned at the stake here. Those two touchdowns where the receiver from kc ran across the formation near the end zone and then cut right back while our stupid db kept running was two of the stupidest plays by a defensive back I've ever seen (those weren't Gannon's fault).

 

Hate to say it but Deebo was right, our defensive backs got exposed last night.

It is like they were trying to anticipate the play call instead of staying fundamentally sound to their responsibilities.  On the second one, Maddox slipped on that crap field as the back changed direction.

Though the Chiefs use of pre snap motion and change of direction really caused problems for dbs with footing.

 

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Why were the Birds having such a difficult time getting the play call in last night? Almost every play was barely getting off before the play clock expired. It was almost always down to 2 seconds before Seumalo would tap Kelce.

I think they were breaking the huddle way late on purpose so the KC defense wouldn't have time to make pre snap adjustments, it seemed weird because unless they went hurry up they would just kind of stand around in the huddle and look at the clock then break with 10 seconds in the play click then snap it at zero.

Not sure the thinking behind this it's not like they were playing the 85 bears it was the freaking chiefs D.

Having said that it really only hurt them once when they took a delay in 3rd and 6 turned into 3rd n 11 they ran a crisser to gainwell way short if the first then settled for a FG, I felt that was a big mistake at that point in the Game and they needed a touch down and that delay really out them behind the sticks.

Other than that I didn't have a problem with it as the offense was moving and scoring.

Eagles O scored the most points ever for a super bowl loser.

I wasn't the problem it was the D that was awful.

16 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Offense should be intact with the exception of Sanders and Seamulo. 

It's the defense that might get a face lift.  Probably not a bad thing.

Seumalo was glue.  Glue has value.  He did his job.  He’ll get more money than he’s worth because he started 17 games on this vaunted OL.

Sanders had one game where he felt he actually made plays and was dangerous.  The rest of the time he was simply gobbling up what the OL gave him.  I have zero interest in retaining him.

18 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

Thank God for Nick Foles and 2017.

And Brandon Graham.

I kept waiting for the D to make a play like that super bowl that just took one defensive play.

When CGJ came up and smacked Pacheco I thought Woot here we go then nothing...😡☹️

This may be a controversial take, but my raw reactions from last night.

- I would let every single FA walk except CJGJ. He's one of the few defensive players that showed up.
- I would continue to use all my premium draft assets on offense 

The best way for Sirianni/Hurts to succeed is continuing him to win as a passer. If we can sustain a top 5 offense, we're a contender every year. Get cheap, young defensive players who will make mistakes but allow the offense to stay in tact.

6 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

It is like they were trying to anticipate the play call instead of staying fundamentally sound to their responsibilities.  On the second one, Maddox slipped on that crap field as the back changed direction.

Though the Chiefs use of pre snap motion and change of direction really caused problems for dbs with footing.

This is one my biggest gripes that shouldn't have been a factor in a game this big. The Chiefs ended up catering their second half gameplan to take advantage of the field being trash. Good on the coaching but it also puts the defenses in a pretty precarious position when they're already disadvantaged in the first place.

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Doesn't matter if the number 1 offense in the NFL being led by the number 1 QB scored a lot of points.  It's Gannon's fault.

Seriously?  This is what youre going to do today?  Defend the indefensible??

The dude lost us a f'ing SB because he couldnt come up with a single adjustment, and his unit couldnt make a single impact play all game.  He was given a massive wedgue and hung from his locker room on a global stage.  

The fumble really hurt, we could have been up 17 or 13 rather than 10 going into the half. Then you have the defense not making any plays at all in the second half, and special teams allowing the long punt return. 

I'm upset about the call on an uncatchable pass but the two things that really irk me are the fumble and the punt return.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

This may be a controversial take, but my raw reactions from last night.

- I would let every single FA walk except CJGJ. He's one of the few defensive players that showed up.
- I would continue to use all my premium draft assets on offense 

The best way for Sirianni/Hurts to succeed is continuing him to win as a passer. If we can sustain a top 5 offense, we're a contender every year. Get cheap, young defensive players who will make mistakes but allow the offense to stay in tact.

Yes yes yes.

Id be open to drafting DE/CB, but our offensive draft picks pan out.

9 minutes ago, Thrive said:

He runs Fangio’s system almost to a tee. It’s basically a "what would Fangio do” Defense. Except Fangio developed it for a specific team under specific circumstances.

Then he can give his paychecks back because we've been paying him as a DC 

8 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

Thank God for Nick Foles and 2017.

honestly that the one things that's not getting me over the edge this morning. sucks and would of loved to get number 2 but man if 2017 didn't happen we'd all be in a mental hospital after how that game ended lol

Just now, RLC said:

This may be a controversial take, but my raw reactions from last night.

- I would let every single FA walk except CJGJ. He's one of the few defensive players that showed up.
- I would continue to use all my premium draft assets on offense 

The best way for Sirianni/Hurts to succeed is continuing him to win as a passer. If we can sustain a top 5 offense, we're a contender every year. Get cheap, young defensive players who will make mistakes but allow the offense to stay in tact.

I 100% agree with the 1st part but not much on the 2nd one.

What premium picks would you use for offense? Only legit one could be RB, which I would almost never use a 1st on a RB. Guard can be found in just about any round, especially with Stout. I think the offense is going to be basically the same for the next 2 seasons, its the defense that needs a lot of talent on the DL and basically everywhere else.

23 minutes ago, greend said:

Oh. That and getting banned for overuse of the confused emoji......................................... makes me chuckle a bit 

I don't think he was banned for that; more likely it was the grocery list of other things that made him a bad poster.

Just now, wussbasket said:

I 100% agree with the 1st part but not much on the 2nd one.

What premium picks would you use for offense? Only legit one could be RB, which I would almost never use a 1st on a RB. Guard can be found in just about any round, especially with Stout. I think the offense is going to be basically the same for the next 2 seasons, its the defense that needs a lot of talent on the DL and basically everywhere else.

I would strongly argue for Skoronksi at 10. He can be RG in year 1, RT whenever Lane retires.
I would then argue for best "weapon" at 31. That could be Bijan, Hyatt, Addison, etc. Pascal/Quez are #4s at best. They're fine as reserves, but we have one dud at WR3.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Yes yes yes.

Id be open to drafting DE/CB, but our offensive draft picks pan out.

CB this year makes sense if Bradberry walks given the importance of the position. We need to get younger there. 

Howie/Lurie at least understand the importance of drafting offense.

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

The fumble really hurt, we could have been up 17 or 13 rather than 10 going into the half. Then you have the defense not making any plays at all in the second half, and special teams allowing the long punt return. 

I'm upset about the call on an uncatchable pass but the two things that really irk me are the fumble and the punt return.

The fumble hurt for sure, but I can live with players making a mistake. The foundational issue that stuck throughout the game was the defense had no answers for anything. I'll tip my hat to Andy and his crew because they schemed their guys open all night. A turnover can happen, but overall, we had absolutely nothing for that offense. 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Seriously?  This is what youre going to do today?  Defend the indefensible??

The dude lost us a f'ing SB because he couldnt come up with a single adjustment, and his unit couldnt make a single impact play all game.  He was given a massive wedgue and hung from his locker room on a global stage.  

We lost by three points.  Hurts gave away 7.  Special teams gave away 7.

 

This is what SB 52 would have looked like without BG's strip sack. Two teams scoring back and forth, with the game decided in the last five minutes.

30 minutes ago, greend said:

Confused by that one

Its what he wanted. To be the victim 

Slot receiver is an underrated need for the Eagles. Don’t know how you can trust Quez again after how he finished this season.

21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Doesn't matter if the number 1 offense in the NFL being led by the number 1 QB scored a lot of points.  It's Gannon's fault.

I mean bengals twice this season managed to keep the chiefs offense at 24 or less points. Heck the horrific Seahawks defense kept the chiefs at 24 points. It’s not a coincidence Dak, Goff/lions and mahomes (all away from Philly) put up 35, 40 and 31 (if butker kicked better shouldve been 34). Literally the 3 best offenses we faced away from Philly averaged 35ppg with arguably the best defensive personnel we are likely to give Gannon in his time here  

Yes he players also at fault cause they didn’t play well but Gannon in two games against mahomes has given up 9 tds in 10 red zone trips and mahomes is completing 79% of his passes. 2021 can make the excuse the personnel wasn’t good enough and I’d understand. However the personnel he was given was good enough where they shouldn’t be getting gashed on the ground for 150 yards, allowing mahomes to complete 79% of his passes and 4-5 in the red zone and the one red zone stop is cause the milked the clock to kick a fg.