LeanMeanGM Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, wussbasket said: What are the chances Slay is still on the team next season? Felt he fell off in the 2nd half of the season, and the way above average QBs are making easy completions, is he worth keeping around? He’s been restructured so many times he’s basically guaranteed back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Diehardfan said: It will be swept under the rug and nothing will change that we don't have a Super Bowl. I never saw field position being something that would cause them to lose in the two weeks leading up to it. Gannon is to blame, but they depend on the line getting to them and they were neutralized from go. How can a DE make cuts, bend, etc when they have no traction? How can the defense make plays if they rely on the DL and the DL can't make plays because the field neutralized them? We can talk about what Gannon should have done, but at the end of the day the NFL slowed them down and took away one of their biggest strengths. Both teams had to play on the same field, but both teams don't rely on fast DE making plays to make their defense work. So if we could see that was happening in the 1st half, why didn’t we change out our cleats to counter it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Just now, LeanMeanGM said: He’s been restructured so many times he’s basically guaranteed back. I say keep Slay next season, bite the big salary for one year ($26M) and part ways at the end of next season. He appears to be close to taking the Champ Bailey tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehardfan Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said: So if we could see that was happening in the 1st half, why didn’t we change out our cleats to counter it? Some did and still slipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Doug Pederson couldn't find a good OC after Reich left for 3 reasons 1) He didn't know any coaches 2) He refused to give up play-calling 3) We had post ACL/back injury Carson Wentz Sirianni has zero of those issues. We'll be fine at OC for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitbased Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said: So if we could see that was happening in the 1st half, why didn’t we change out our cleats to counter it? We did. Styles of play still makes a big difference in circumstances like that. Less explosive/fast movements will obviously make you less prone to slipping when the field is crap. It's why we saw the OL not really having any issues on either side. KC blitzes pretty often so the field conditions mattered less to them when it comes to running their standard defense. We have speed rushers (Reddick/Sweat) and relied on the front 4 to generate pressure which the field basically negated. KC got no pressure with their front 4 either but their style of defense and personnel lined up better to the field conditions than ours did. It's still a knock on Gannon for not being able to adjust at all but it wasn't an "equal footing" situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinfan Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Gannon isn't a bad DC, but he is still climbing the learning curve. They must be doing something right, while Reddick was a top pass rusher, Sweat was developed, Cox at the end of his career, Hargrave more of a NT in Pitt, Graham at the end of his career and so on. They had an elite pass rush with only one top addition, the rest of those players got the most out of their talent. The talent in the back seven wasn't that great, it depended on the pass rush, Slay and Bradberry aren't shutdown corners, the safeties were probably below average, even CGJ with his big play ability is still learning how to play FS, the LBs were better but neither Edwards or White excelled in coverage. So part of the reason Gannon played it safety first was he didn't have Brown, Dawkins and Sheppard in his secondary, 2017 wasn't as good, but they still had Jenkins and McLeod at safety in their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, ManuManu said: Now that Steichen is officially off the board, it’ll be interesting to see how the offense changes. This is supposedly Sirianni’s offense with Stoutland featured prominently. How much of the playcalling on game day was Steichen? Did Sirianni get in his ear to dial up certain plays at certain times? There’s a lot that goes into playcalling leading up to Sunday. What role did Steichen have? Did he parse everyone’s info (third down, red zone, run game, pass game, 2 minute) and bring it to Sirianni? Did Sirianni co-pilot that with Steichen? There’s so much going on behind the scenes that this loss is difficult to quantify. I was under the impression that Nick is involved in helping to design the plays with the group but Shane is the one calling the plays in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, austinfan said: They must be doing something right, while Reddick was a top pass rusher, Sweat was developed, Cox at the end of his career, Hargrave more of a NT in Pitt, Graham at the end of his career and so on. They had an elite pass rush with only one top addition, the rest of those players got the most out of their talent. Howie Roseman gave him good talent, and Gannon couldn't maximize it against good QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerolithe_Lion Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, RLC said: Doug Pederson couldn't find a good OC after Reich left for 3 reasons 1) He didn't know any coaches 2) He refused to give up play-calling 3) We had post ACL/back injury Carson Wentz Sirianni has zero of those issues. We'll be fine at OC for a while. Could you imagine Hurts making a stink about us drafting a backup QB high? Or people complaining about him in the lockerroom? I’m so happy he worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerolithe_Lion Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: I was under the impression that Nick is involved in helping to design the plays with the group but Shane is the one calling the plays in the game Yeah that’s what I thought it was. Sirianni’s offense, but he brought in Steichen because they were on the same wavelength for how to call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertbirds Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, austinfan said: Gannon isn't a bad DC, but he is still climbing the learning curve. They must be doing something right, while Reddick was a top pass rusher, Sweat was developed, Cox at the end of his career, Hargrave more of a NT in Pitt, Graham at the end of his career and so on. They had an elite pass rush with only one top addition, the rest of those players got the most out of their talent. The talent in the back seven wasn't that great, it depended on the pass rush, Slay and Bradberry aren't shutdown corners, the safeties were probably below average, even CGJ with his big play ability is still learning how to play FS, the LBs were better but neither Edwards or White excelled in coverage. So part of the reason Gannon played it safety first was he didn't have Brown, Dawkins and Sheppard in his secondary, 2017 wasn't as good, but they still had Jenkins and McLeod at safety in their prime. Who is at fault for that? Your boy Roseman perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Johnson was likely involved in the gameplan. The question would be how much and is he ready to take on a bigger role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitbased Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 minute ago, RLC said: Howie Roseman gave him good talent, and Gannon couldn't maximize it against good QBs. Yup. When everything changes around him and the results stay the same (against good QBs) then it's pretty obvious who the problem is. All the gripes we had against him last year were exactly the same this year. He had top tier talent on defense and one of the best offenses in the league to bail him out and he still floundered just the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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