Quez Watkins poorly tracking that ball and then dropping it is such an underrated play in the game and will eventually be forgotten by most because of the hold and Hurts’ fumble. 

I liked Quez but a role player playing a big hand in two of our 4 losses this year is a bad look. 

8 minutes ago, Silent Eagle said:

I agree!! That field negated our pass rush. Also, lets dig deeper. Congrats to State Farm. The Super bowl was Sponsored by State Farm. They ran their commercials and their celeb spokesman won the championship. What are they odds?

Yup seems like more than just a coincidence no?

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not a lot of reasons we lost on offense.  But we still need to move forward and get better regardless. 

1.  Hurts needs to be more consistent with his deep passes.  

2.  AJ Brown and Devonta Smith do an incredible job of just coming down with the ball, but it would be nice to enhance our deep passing game with a burner deep threat.  Watkins once looked to be that guy, but he just cannot connect and cannot contribute in any other way.  Our deep passing game cannot consist of just hoping for a big catch in traffic from covered WRs.  Need someone that can win a foot race.

3.  I don't think we need a dominant RB 1.  That's what our OL is for.  What we could use, IMO...is the opposite of the big back everyone is clamoring for.  I'd like a back that creates problems in space, matchup problems, disappears behind the OL and dominates on screen plays, and can motion out wide and still command respect in coverage.  That opens up the middle of the field for Hurts to run 10-15 yards a pop.

4. We need the OL to stay healthy.  It was a miracle it worked out this year.  Might not happen again.

Health in general. May never see a year where all 22 starters entering the season were available and healthy for the SB. 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Hurts is gonna get paid this offseason and he will deserve every $

Yup.  I think his extension will be done pretty quickly, before the Burrow and Herbert ones get inked.  My guess is about $47.5M AAV for 4 years.

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

Dan Orlovsky pointed this very concept out this morning. Unfathomable Gannon didn’t adjust.

He was probably on the phone with the Cards brass setting up his interview 

4 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Hurts is gonna get paid this offseason and he will deserve every $

Hometown discount?😔

Is it a penalty to push/drag/carry an opposing player into the endzone? Eagles clearly we're trying to let McKinnon score and held up from being near him at the end but he was smart enough to slide at the one. I wonder if someone were able to tie them up at the 5ish yard line and just walk and shove him in for a TD. 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not a lot of reasons we lost on offense.  But we still need to move forward and get better regardless. 

1.  Hurts needs to be more consistent with his deep passes.  

2.  AJ Brown and Devonta Smith do an incredible job of just coming down with the ball, but it would be nice to enhance our deep passing game with a burner deep threat.  Watkins once looked to be that guy, but he just cannot connect and cannot contribute in any other way.  Our deep passing game cannot consist of just hoping for a big catch in traffic from covered WRs.  Need someone that can win a foot race.

3.  I don't think we need a dominant RB 1.  That's what our OL is for.  What we could use, IMO...is the opposite of the big back everyone is clamoring for.  I'd like a back that creates problems in space, matchup problems, disappears behind the OL and dominates on screen plays, and can motion out wide and still command respect in coverage.  That opens up the middle of the field for Hurts to run 10-15 yards a pop.

4. We need the OL to stay healthy.  It was a miracle it worked out this year.  Might not happen again.

Here's hoping we have the same group next year...not convinced Howie can get ti done, tho...Kelce, Lane???

11 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Fellows, the Eagles lost to the Chiefs in all three aspects of the game:

Chiefs' O > Eagles' O

Chiefs' D > Eagles' D

Chiefs' ST > Eagles' ST

I will add - Chiefs' rookie class >> Eagles' rookie class

I still think Eagles offense and defense is better

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I realize that it's half our team identity, but I'm starting to sour on the RPO.

Hurts, the offense, and the playcalling (despite all 3 catching some criticism), combine for approximately 0% of the blame for last night's loss.  But we still need to look beyond that (especially the SF game).

Hurts has evolved into a legit passer when sitting in the pocket.  And our elite run blocking OL needs to be allowed to get after it with aggressive downhill running plays.  We don't need this gimmick, this hitch and hesitation in the play.  That helped before Hurts started passing at this level.  But teams are onto it.  Either let Hurts drop back into the pocket and scan the whole field, or pound the rock behind the OL.  I feel like the RPO narrows Hurts' passing options to one read right in front of him and also puts the running game on its heels.  

I'm not saying to shelve it altogether, but let's use it less.  Much less.  

That's not true.

For what it's worth, the fumble in the first half was bad, there's no getting around that and even if the Chiefs do score on the next possession (which they didn't anyway) that still was an emotionally damaging play.  They rebounded, but it was still something that needed to be rebounded from, because it was a negative.  

They settled for a FG rather than a TD on the first possession of the second half.  They needed to match scores with the Chiefs, they didn't.

They needed to answer when the Chiefs took the lead by a point on the next possession.  They went 3 and out.  

They needed to move down the field with urgency when they got the ball back with an 8 point deficit and preserve as much time as possible... or run the clock completely out as they tied the score.  They didn't.

They needed to get their plays in faster and not take delay of game penalties and preserve the timeout that they had to burn needlessly.  

 

The list may be longer for the defense than the offense, but those are all things that the offense needed to do differently than they did.  They deserve some blame.  Team loss.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Quez Watkins poorly tracking that ball and then dropping it is such an underrated play in the game and will eventually be forgotten by most because of the hold and Hurts’ fumble. 

I liked Quez but a role player playing a big hand in two of our 4 losses this year is a bad look. 

He was a 6th round pick for a reason. He’s fine as a 4-5th WR on a roster. We need a better slot receiver and one preferably with speed. Tbh there’s an argument to be made Greg ward might have been better than quez in the slot with how quez has looked as the season went along. At least for the most part ward is sure-handed. He just doesn’t have great speed and really he’s a 5th wr at best on a championship team. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

We really do.  Because gainwell came up way short on a 2nd or 3rd and 2 run as well as that weak RAC. We didn't get that strong running from him. 

Boston Scott was also stopped on a goal line carry.

Someone was stopped on the pitch play out of the sneak formation. Don't remember who. 

Those guys didn't get it done as short yardage runners.  And if Sanders can't do it either, then we have none.

Big need.  Scary how unstoppable this offense could be with another added element like a bruising RB.

Boston had that really nice run where he juked out two defenders for a first down then I feel like we never saw him again... 

33 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

It was the same for both, but both have different styles as well. Power vs speed....speed doesn't do well when there is no grip same as a sports car when it's slick. 

Stop. dude. Here's the field, put on the right tires and let's wheel. Our D Line couldn't get home because their O Line had better traction?

Playing field levelled...who wants it.

15 minutes ago, RLC said:

I can't believe some people in this blog said this was a routine throw.

There's a reason I hated Hurts when we drafted him and through 2 years.  Hurts will be used around the league for years as a model for preaching patience.  What happened with Hurts is rare.  It may not happen again.  Raw QB's without arm talent, without any mastery of passing nuance...who spent their entire careers just running on critical plays...they don't magically turn into viable championship contending passers.  It somehow happened with Hurts.  It won't happen with Fields.  It probably won't happen with anyone else.

Just now, Doc S. said:

Stop. dude. Here's the field, put on the right tires and let's wheel. Our D Line couldn't get home because their O Line had better traction?

Playing field levelled...who wants it.

That's not how it works. Science is not a "who wants it more" thing

11 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The bottom line is that the Chiefs had four possessions in the 2nd half and scored a TD on all four (technically just three since they milked the clock and kicked the game winning fg instead on the 4th one).  One stop and the Eagles win.  To be fair, one was a short field so put that on the ST.

Bottom line... Eagles went into the second half with a 10 point lead.  Had 3 possessions (meaningful ones) in the second half.  If they score on all 3 of them, the Eagles win the game.  Instead, they scored a FG on the first, putting themselves in a hole, even as they were currently leading the game.  And went 3 and out on the next possession.  Just getting a FG on that drive changes everything, and keeps the ST from killing them.

 

Complementary football.   Pieces of blame pie can be shared around.

59 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The more you think about it the worse it gets.  Watch the play and watch the official do NOTHING as the play unfolds in front of him.  The flag was incredibly late.  

Haha he was waiting for the call from Vegas to affect the game...

1 minute ago, RLC said:

That's not how it works. Science is not a "who wants it more" thing

My cleats are better than your cleats?

That's the only science working here...

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Quez Watkins poorly tracking that ball and then dropping it is such an underrated play in the game and will eventually be forgotten by most because of the hold and Hurts’ fumble. 

I liked Quez but a role player playing a big hand in two of our 4 losses this year is a bad look. 

He's been bad for about the second half of the season.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Is it a penalty to push/drag/carry an opposing player into the endzone? Eagles clearly we're trying to let McKinnon score and held up from being near him at the end but he was smart enough to slide at the one. I wonder if someone were able to tie them up at the 5ish yard line and just walk and shove him in for a TD. 

No.

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

I drool over the thought of someone like Chubb on this offense. 

Maybe we should've gotten Hunt at the deadline even. 

6 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

Didn't everybody play on the same field?

WTF? Excuses are...well. we didn't get it done...I'm not happy but let me say, It was ours to win..

Yes they all played in the same surface and the chiefs pass rush without blitzing didn't do jack either and it was more detrimental to the eagles D than it was the chiefs for the simple reason being the eagles D are dependant on getting pressure with 4 and dropping 7, they not only lead the league in sacks but had the most sacks from 4 man pressures as well take that away due to the field And the eagles D is very average, take that away from The chiefs against hurts and it's not as big   a deal as most teams mush rush hurts on the edge anyway.

That field surface hurt the eagles more than it hurt the chiefs due to scheme.

Am a whiner sure probably will be for a while, sorry☹️ did Eagles make mistakes? Sure. But in my opinion not enough to lose the game, the biggest mistake of that game was the horrible field.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He was a 6th round pick for a reason. He’s fine as a 4-5th WR on a roster. We need a better slot receiver and one preferably with speed. Tbh there’s an argument to be made Greg ward might have been better than quez in the slot with how quez has looked as the season went along. At least for the most part ward is sure-handed. He just doesn’t have great speed and really he’s a 5th wr at best on a championship team. 

Greg Ward isn't an NFL WR.  

Interesting breakdown of the Chiefs’ OL. 

Of note: I believe as pass rush win by the defense is winning within 2.5 seconds. But if Mahomes is getting rid of your ball in 2.33 in the second half, you have to win instantly or it doesn’t matter. 

Reddick slipped on at least 5 plays where he beat Wylie.