35 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

And what about CB, DT, LB, S right now. I get it, I want an elite o-line at all times too. But we have immediate needs now. Bradberry is out so there's no #2 CB. The linebackers cost us, Epps was exposed, Cox should be done here and Hargrave faded and will want a major payday on top it. I can't use a top pick for guy that may play if our all world RT goes down. I'm not there yet. The Dillard pick was a very bad investment, we could've had Montez Sweat running around last night rather than Dillard being invisible. I'm not so hot on that Jurgens pick in round two last year either that paid zero dividends this year. 

I hear you, but you need to talk to Howie.  They have always spent high draft capital on the OLine.  I'm simply mirroring their history in my comment.

In 2018, everyone thought the Eagles had their QB of the future. They lost both coordinators, Wentz was never the same again, and everything fell apart. Granted, Wentz tore his ACL, but still.

Does anyone have any concern about regression from Hurts or did this season and the SB 100% sell you on him going forward with no doubts?

I personally am sold because of his attitude and work ethic.

21 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

yeah TJ makes a play or 2 during a game but he is always outa place or gets beat in coverage and can't get off blocks.

Ryans, Teo, who else has tried to hold the middle here after Jeramiah? says something that I can't even remember...

not gonna research, just Howie, get us some LBs....for a change...

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m back and forth on who I think had the better Super Bowl. Foles or Hurts. Both were all time great performances 

I’d argue foles cause his turnover was on alshon and basically not catching the ball and hitting it right to a defender. Whereas hurts just fumbled it on his own accord and it went for a td. That to me is the difference both played amazing though 

Just now, Sack that QB said:

In 2018, everyone thought the Eagles had their QB of the future. They lost both coordinators, Wentz was never the same again, and everything fell apart. Granted, Wentz tore his ACL, but still.

Does anyone have any concern about regression from Hurts or did this season and the SB 100% sell you on him going forward with no doubts?

I personally am sold because of his attitude and work ethic.

Hurts, like any QB, could get hurt.

Hurts improves every year. Everyone loves him. He had an all-time great performance in the SB (see below). He plays hurt. Could we improve on Hurts with say, Josh Allen? Theoretically. In practice, we're not going to do better. He's the guy.

 

1 hour ago, Doc S. said:

Day after recaps on GMFB and ESPN...Hard to watch.

My takeaways...

I'm still pissed about a lot of the game but some statements are true.

Eagles D line stayed in their hotel rooms from 6-10pm.. True.

Jalen Hurts did all he could do to lead the Team to a W. True.

The Game changed on a punt return for the best return yardage in Super Bowl history. True.

In the Second half, Eagles Defensive Line was busy trying out the new menu at Olive Garden. True.

Eagles Offense scored enough points to Win the game.... True?

This one's gonna hurt for a while but I'm an Eagles guy, Start over, again, Go Howie.

 

I disagree.  The game changed on two offensive possessions.  Both came in the second half.  Eagles only got a FG on the first drive, after the Chiefs got a TD.  Eagles went 3 and out after the Chiefs got another TD on their next drive... and the Eagles went from a 10 point lead to a 1 point deficit in a heartbeat.  The punt return just precipitated the scoring for the Chiefs.  The defense couldn't stop the Chiefs at all in the second half, or even slow them down.  They did exactly what they wanted to do, and I don't think the punt return really changed a thing about the game at all.   The two offensive possessions for the Eagles right before that... did.  

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d argue foles cause his turnover was on alshon and basically not catching the ball and hitting it right to a defender. Whereas hurts just fumbled it on his own accord and it went for a td. That to me is the difference both played amazing though 

Football...and Football...

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

In 2018, everyone thought the Eagles had their QB of the future. They lost both coordinators, Wentz was never the same again, and everything fell apart. Granted, Wentz tore his ACL, but still.

Does anyone have any concern about regression from Hurts or did this season and the SB 100% sell you on him going forward with no doubts?

I personally am sold because of his attitude and work ethic.

Tbh I’m more worried about the defense needing to still be built after we bought a year in 2022. At the moment sweat, reddick, slay, maddox, Davis and Dean are the only guys back next year. Meaning you have 5bstarting spots open and very little depth. It’s why to me winning this year was massive. Next year you likely aren’t as good defensive and might take 1-2 years to get yourself back to the spot where we have as much talent defensive. And by that time lane and kelce could be done on offense. 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

In 2018, everyone thought the Eagles had their QB of the future. They lost both coordinators, Wentz was never the same again, and everything fell apart. Granted, Wentz tore his ACL, but still.

Does anyone have any concern about regression from Hurts or did this season and the SB 100% sell you on him going forward with no doubts?

I personally am sold because of his attitude and work ethic.

I was waiting until the season was over to ask something like this. I remember reading, not sure if it was here or an article, that the things Carson excelled at in 2017 were unsustainable. Would you, or anyone else, say the same about Hurts? 

44 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think it hurt us in the end because the run game wasnt really needed. The passing game was working so well. But Sanders got hurt on the 1st play and fumbled. Maybe the injury, or maybe the fumble- something caused them to lose confidence in him. He wasnt really utilized. The other guys failed to puck up the slack for him. Gainwell didnt have a ton of opportunity either, but he underwhelmed with weak runs last night when he earned playing time by being a hard nosed runner. He and Boston Scott failed on numerous short yardage attempts. Gainwell's mistake on the 2nd and 2 run lead to Seumalo's false start penalty on 3rd down, which led to the fumble on the 3rd down replay. Snowball effect, started with Gainwell not just picking up the 1st.

What mistake?  He lost his footing on a garbage field. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

I disagree.  The game changed one two offensive possessions.  Both came in the second half.  Eagles only got a FG on the first drive, after the Chiefs got a TD.  Eagles went 3 and out after the Chiefs got another TD on their next drive... and the Eagles went from a 10 point lead to a 1 point deficit in a heartbeat.  The punt return just precipitated the scoring for the Chiefs.  The defense couldn't stop the Chiefs at all in the second half, or even slow them down.  They did exactly what they wanted to do, and I don't think the punt return really changed a thing about the game at all.   The two offensive possessions for the Eagles right before that... did.  

You need to stop being so right.

My point stands tho, the entire complexion of the game changed after the punt return.

Eagles D was suddenly on their heels, KC had their whole playbook available, and they used it.

Game Changing events.

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We didn’t really make them kick a second FG. They wanted the eat clock and kick it late. That was a huge loss by the defense. 

A slow huge loss... would have been better to just give up a 70 yard TD on that drive...

33 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

We did.  We had a 3rd down stop with a minute and a half left.  But then the penalty...

Yeah. That’s not a stop unfortunately. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

A slow huge loss... would have been better to just give up a 70 yard TD on that drive...

Yep. The Bradberry penalty was the worst possible outcome to that slow loss. Juju scoring a TD there would have been bad but not disastrous. 

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

In 2018, everyone thought the Eagles had their QB of the future. They lost both coordinators, Wentz was never the same again, and everything fell apart. Granted, Wentz tore his ACL, but still.

Does anyone have any concern about regression from Hurts or did this season and the SB 100% sell you on him going forward with no doubts?

I personally am sold because of his attitude and work ethic.

I want to lessen Hurts needing to run so often by getting a #1 type back that runs with authority and can punish defenders. That combined with Gainwell and possibly Scott or a player of that caliber would take pressure off Hurts and lessen the hits he's been taking. 

23 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I was in the minority when I said we overpaid Maddox. I really didn't want to even extend him. I wanted  Mike Hilton who's getting paid less and is a much better player. Last night I think swayed a lot of fans. 

What they should have done was put Blankenship in at safety and slide Chauncey down to the slot.  Maddox is terribly overrated by many.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh I’m more worried about the defense needing to still be built after we bought a year in 2022. At the moment sweat, reddick, slay, maddox, Davis and Dean are the only guys back next year. Meaning you have 5bstarting spots open and very little depth. It’s why to me winning this year was massive. Next year you likely aren’t as good defensive and might take 1-2 years to get yourself back to the spot where we have as much talent defensive. And by that time lane and kelce could be done on offense. 

If Gannon leaves and they actually bring in someone with some vision, it might not be a bad thing.

The head coach is aggressive. The OC is aggressive. The DC is passive. He plays back, barely blitzes, and takes way too long to adjust. They need a defensive coach that matches the personality of the coach.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I disagree.  The game changed one two offensive possessions.  Both came in the second half.  Eagles only got a FG on the first drive, after the Chiefs got a TD.  Eagles went 3 and out after the Chiefs got another TD on their next drive... and the Eagles went from a 10 point lead to a 1 point deficit in a heartbeat.  The punt return just precipitated the scoring for the Chiefs.  The defense couldn't stop the Chiefs at all in the second half, or even slow them down.  They did exactly what they wanted to do, and I don't think the punt return really changed a thing about the game at all.   The two offensive possessions for the Eagles right before that... did.  

Yep, the 3 and out especially was killer. Just bad play calling too.

They overturned this with no "conclusive evidence".

The CB also hits Smith early, which is why they felt there was a bobble. 

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m back and forth on who I think had the better Super Bowl. Foles or Hurts. Both were all time great performances 

I'd go with Foles. There were some decisions that I didn't like from Hurts and his hail mary was horrible

Both played great though

3 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

You need to stop being so right.

My point stands tho, the entire complexion of the game changed after the punt return.

Eagles D was suddenly on their heels, KC had their whole playbook available, and they used it.

Game Changing events.

The Eagles D was on their heels from the moment the Chiefs got the ball to start the second half.  Andy used the halftime to a T and just made Gannon look foolish.  

Good for Chris, but it sucks about his career

1 minute ago, RLC said:

They overturned this with no "conclusive evidence".

The CB also hits Smith early, which is why they felt there was a bobble. 

I didn't know that if there is a penalty on the next play that they can review the previous play still. I thought once it's snapped then that's the end of it

Just now, RLC said:

Good for Chris, but it sucks about his career

Wow.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd go with Foles. There were some decisions that I didn't like from Hurts and his hail mary was horrible

Both played great though

Hurts slipped on the hail mary. Shocking.