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7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You can’t continue this game can you?

If they do it’s absolutely ridiculous

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1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

There are multiple things that could cause a player to lose their airway…

1.  Traumatic brain injury resulting in a loss of respiratory drive.  This is extremely unlikely given the way he passed out after standing up.

2. High cervical spinal cord injury.  Again, extremely unlikely.  He would have needed to dislocate his craniocervical junction on the play and then actually had the injury to the spinal cord itself while getting up.  Extremely unlikely.

3. Airway crushed on the play.  DIdn’t happen.  Wouldn’t have gotten up.

1-3 may require an intubation in the field, but not 9 minutes of sustained chest compressions, as there would be a pulse but no airway.

 

4. Cardiac problem.  I know the least about this and figure this may be the most likely.  This is what kills young athletes.

Was it 9 minutes of sustained compressions?  I heard it as he was down for 9, 2 minutes of CPR.  Are those different things?

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

There are multiple things that could cause a player to lose their airway…

1.  Traumatic brain injury resulting in a loss of respiratory drive.  This is extremely unlikely given the way he passed out after standing up.

2. High cervical spinal cord injury.  Again, extremely unlikely.  He would have needed to dislocate his craniocervical junction on the play and then actually had the injury to the spinal cord itself while getting up.  Extremely unlikely.

3. Airway crushed on the play.  DIdn’t happen.  Wouldn’t have gotten up.

1-3 may require an intubation in the field, but not 9 minutes of sustained chest compressions, as there would be a pulse but no airway.

 

4. Cardiac problem.  I know the least about this and figure this may be the most likely.  This is what kills young athletes.

Thank you.

 

Don’t know how they can continue not just for the emotional aspect but what if there’s an update one way or another that happens during the game. They’re going to have to update the team and then there’s another emotional change in-game depending on what the news is. 

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

 

Assuming that’s a good sign. If he were fighting for his life they wouldn’t be waiting 

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

That's....good?

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

That’s a good sign - if he was dying or dead they wouldn’t hold the damn ambulance

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

That has to be a positive sign if waiting around 

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

 

I’m hoping this is a positive development? If he wasn’t stable they wouldn’t be wasting any time getting him to the hospital?

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I mean i get it but let the players and coaches decide

…just hope Hamlin survived

I disagree.   A person who has experienced a trauma is not in the best place to make a decision like that.   It needs to be taken away from them.    Football is an emotional sport... the air has been sucked out of these guys.   Just postpone the game and figure out how to deal with it from there.

 

Yeah he must be relatively stable for them to delay the ambulance. That's good news.

12 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

We're in the moment so overreactions are natural, but...

we might be seeing the beginning of the end for this sport.

You’re likely too young to remember but a CFL player passed away in similar circumstances in the early to mid seventies.  

15 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Has a player ever died on the field?

Yes, in 1971 Chuck Hughes of the Detroit Lions had a heart attack with about 2 minutes to go. I remember that scene as though it was yesterday, watched it on a black and white tv.

Get Schefter off the telecast. Guy is such a fake toad and only cares about breaking the story. 

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if teammates of his Uber/bus/whatever themselves to the hospital. F the game. 

Prayers to Damar Hamlin.  Horrifying.

After knowing the mush that CPR can leave a chest...I'm shocked they're waiting.  So it's safe to say it wasn't 9 mins of sustained compressions

 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Was it 9 minutes of sustained compressions?  I heard it as he was down for 9, 2 minutes of CPR.  Are those different things?

Compressions are part of CPR….the compressions are the bulk of the time in CPR, but not all of it.  It sounds like it was 9 minutes of CPR from what they are saying, but who knows…

 

New territory here. Unprecedented.

Nobody knows what to do. This is not a Football injury...this is Life-Threatening...

Prayers for Hamlin. The Stadium is dead silent. We all want Hamlin to survive this.

The NFL must navigate this carefully, this is a transcendental moment in the Sport.

 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Assuming that’s a good sign. If he were fighting for his life they wouldn’t be waiting 

 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

That has to be a positive sign if waiting around 

That's what I was thinking but you never know.  If it was near death I would think they'd be doing 100 to get to the hospital.  Can always have team security get her there if needed.  Take this as good news.

If the game is postponed, I wonder when they’d resume with the playoffs right around the corner. Thursday night? Can’t be next Thursday and give them a short turn around right before a playoff game.

Would they push the playoffs back a week given these extreme circumstances?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I disagree.   A person who has experienced a trauma is not in the best place to make a decision like that.   It needs to be taken away from them.    Football is an emotional sport... the air has been sucked out of these guys.   Just postpone the game and figure out how to deal with it from there.

 

This

Its why they no longer let players decide on concussions and have spotters. A player is going to try to play for teammates, contract, family, etc. even when they don't want to.

A lot like the Christian Eriksen situation.  I thought for sure he was dead, too, but hopefully it's the same outcome.

6 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

This is where Goodell needs to step in and shut it down. God forbid another serious injury happens, then it's... I don't even know...

Goodell is a spinelesss, corporate goon. I don't know who decided to suspend the game, but I highly doubt it was him. 

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