When you're put under general anesthesia they have to intubate you because it completely knocks you out and you stop breathing.

I don’t know how anyone can care about the game or playoff picture. Who cares 

That’s great news.  If he avoided an anoxic brain injury (which I really doubt given the immediate, excellent cpr) and if there was no intracranial cause of all this, then I really think he’ll be OK.

 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That is encouraging.

 

Is the breathing tube just a precautionary step to make sure he doesn't stop breathing?

 

Reports when he left the stadium was he had a pulse but wasn't breathing on his own. 

Ryan Clark is sharing the heart of the player... I can't see how players that witnessed this can play in a day, or even two or three.  I think they need a week... at least.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That is encouraging.

 

Is the breathing tube just a precautionary step to make sure he doesn't stop breathing?

Either means he's not breathing in his own or his neurologic status is compromised enough that there's a risk of him not being able to breathe in his own in the near future. Which isn't exactly good but is far less important than his heart working right now. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ryan Clark is sharing the heart of the player... I can't see how players that witnessed this can play in a day, or even two or three.  I think they need a week... at least.

Yup. Gave a great story about tomlin not letting him play cause he wouldn’t let his own son play given the circumstance. Clark had a ton of doctors vouch for him when he went to tomlin and tomlin didn’t even give it any thought and said no. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Gave a great story about tomlin not letting him play cause he wouldn’t let his own son play. Clark had a ton of doctors vouch for him when he went to tomlin and tomlin didn’t even give it any thought and said no. 

Last week Mike White just tried every doctor on planet earth (exaggerating but it was like 10+ doctors) to get around sitting out with a rib injury... they sat him out.

 

I'm not going to say he's out of the woods, because I've seen things turn south on patients out of nowhere, but if the medical team at UC thought his life was in immediate danger, would they be performing some types of procedures on him to try and help him survive and not just "running tests"? That would seem to be good news. You'd hope anyway.

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Nah. You don't go from feeling well enough to play a football game, to out and pulseless that quickly from just myocarditis. Like others have speculated it's probably blunt trauma causing asystole or a significant arrhythmia, but we'll know eventually. 

Wouldn't be Asystole because an AED can't be used for that. So yeah some sort of extreme Arrhythmia. 

Just now, Uscg-green said:

Wouldn't be Asystole because an AED can't be used for that. So yeah some sort of extreme Arrhythmia. 

Didn't see they used an AED.  Getting all this second hand from the board sorry.

14 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

I'm guessing it was just a partial? I've only seen them responding to care accidents and they were already gone. 

Actually this article says it was the inferior vena cava. Still... you'd only expect it from a car crash or something that high impact.  But anything is possible.  

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1572602-dj-haydens-miraculous-journey-from-life-threatening-injury-to-the-nfl-draft

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Nah. You don't go from feeling well enough to play a football game, to out and pulseless that quickly from just myocarditis. Like others have speculated it's probably blunt trauma causing asystole or a significant arrhythmia, but we'll know eventually. 

I’m probably confusing myself with something else then.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm not going to say he's out of the woods, because I've seen things turn south on patients out of nowhere, but if the medical team at UC thought his life was in immediate danger, would they be performing some types of procedures on him to try and help him survive and not just "running tests"? That would seem to be good news. You'd hope anyway.

I don’t think that means as much.  I’ve been optimistic and hopeful from the start for him, but "running tests” just means "we’ll tell you more later.”  
 

 

F You Roger Goodell

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Gave a great story about tomlin not letting him play cause he wouldn’t let his own son play. Clark had a ton of doctors vouch for him when he went to tomlin and tomlin didn’t even give it any thought and said no. 

Interesting part of that particular story was that upon hearing Tomlin say that Clark was relieved.  And he said he was glad that the coaches for the Bills and Bengals put an end to the idea of continuing the game tonight.   

I don't think the NFL actually has a protocol in place for a situation like this.  Their 5 minute protocol is more about serious 'injuries' but not life threatening injuries.  Frankly, I can't imagine how Jets players continued on after the Dennis Byrd injury and so many others like that in the past.

 

 

 

And man... anyone not watching ESPN right now... Ryan Clark is just so real right now.  He is really showing a lot of maturity and the insights he is sharing are illuminating.  

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m probably confusing myself with something else then.

Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy? 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ryan Clark is sharing the heart of the player... I can't see how players that witnessed this can play in a day, or even two or three.  I think they need a week... at least.

Yeah. He also has ties to Maddox and Sanders. I can’t imagine how hard this week will be for them, let alone the two teams on the field. 

4 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Last week Mike White just tried every doctor on planet earth (exaggerating but it was like 10+ doctors) to get around sitting out with a rib injury... they sat him out.

Ironically, a few weeks ago, someone posted that if a grown man says he's good to go, that should be enough to get them on the field.   

 

I think these stories from Clark, White, etc. illustrate that the players want to play... that's the way they are wired.  But sometimes, others have to step in and protect them from themselves.  

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

F You Roger Goodell

Hey, he’s no Vince McMahon 

NFL community is pretty awesome

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yeah. He also has ties to Maddox and Sanders. I can’t imagine how hard this week will be for them, let alone the two teams on the field. 

This ripple effect through the league will be huge.  How many players from Pitt are there in the league?  Played with him in HS, Pop Warner, All-Star games, made friends from competing against each other for years in college?   

 

Goodell can eat a slimy turd.

17 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Doesn't KC get it anyway if they win Saturday?  If they lose then it would go to I think the Bengals if this game is ruled a tie. 

No, the Bills are the current top seed. If the Bills win twice, they get the bye. KC needs Buffalo to lose once...and then beat the Raiders. I guess the Bengals can get the bye if they win twice and the Chiefs lose next week. So this game tonight is/was HUGE.