4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Chicken processing has a lot of injuries like degloving and finger amputations.  Just check to make sure the chicken wing doesn't have a finger nail.  

Those have extra protein! 

7 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

You disapprove?

Say it ain't so, Toronto...

Aren't you the easy going, tolerant Canadian we all hear about??

"This man is in Jail for being in too many bad moods..."

 

Had a friend text me earlier and he said by the end of the week people are going to be calling the NFL to push the season back a week minimum and if they don't they'll be roasted for being insensitive.

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So now Ryan Matthews was a better overall RB than Sanders.  Before you insinuated they were comparable.  Since Sanders is "average” does that make Ryan Matthews above average?   Or are you downgrading Sanders to "below average”?   

I think theyre all average, and stylistically I prefer someone like Howard or Mathews who can put their shoulder pads down and deliver a hit.

I don't think Sanders has very good vision, hes not that elusive, and isnt really a burner either. Hes athletic and quick and thats it.

Its also funny how youre trying to catch me in some sort of misstatement, as if I dont think Sanders is painfully average and won't just say that openly.

I think a lot of guys are better than Sanders, I don't think hes all that great.  Maybe you can let him know so he can whine about disrespect some more.

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Had a friend text me earlier and he said by the end of the week people are going to be calling the NFL to push the season back a week minimum and if they don't they'll be roasted for being insensitive.

Push the season back 2-3 weeks? That’s ridiculous. Imagine the precedent that would set. 

30 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

People get hurt at work every day.  People die on the job every day.  Injuries are not at all unique to football.  Football probably has a higher percentage of it's workforce get injured than many others but they're not alone at all.  I have never seen a construction project stopped because a worker was hurt or even killed on the job.  Moreover, there are 1000s of jobs where repeated activities, chemical exposure and other conditions create occupational diseases that have long term consequences.   

A few blog members in the armed forces have obviously spoken to similar things when they were deployed.  I've had colleagues continue operating after being notified of unexpected deaths of family members.  And work obviously keeps going on after witnessing deaths of patients.  

NFL players didn't sign up for any of that though.  It speaks to the frivolity of the game.  Football is an escape, professional athletes are coddled, and it's extra jarring for everyone, players, fans, and coaches included to see raw humanity and tragedy in their weekly fantasy escape from reality.  It was an especially traumatic event for the players and despite all the pressure they operate under, they just aren't equipped to continue to function after something like that.  Other types of workers actually might be.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not nearly enough is being made of the job done by the training and medical staff.

Everyone waxes poetic about the pressure of coming onto the field cold in front of 70,000 people and a national TV audience as a backup QB, WR, kicker and having to perform.  Imagine doing that and needing to save an actively dying young man's life.

Bad ass.

No doubt.  True professionals and lifesavers... All in a days' work for those guys I suppose.  My guess is that once that all starts, they get tunnel vision and don't even know that there's any one else around them.

Just now, Blazehound said:

Push the season back 2-3 weeks? That’s ridiculous. Imagine the precedent that would set. 

It couldn't happen, anyway. They'd have to push the SB back, and there's too many commitments, people flying in from all over the world who have hotels booked and stuff.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Had a friend text me earlier and he said by the end of the week people are going to be calling the NFL to push the season back a week minimum and if they don't they'll be roasted for being insensitive.

Not to sound horrible here, but I don't think you can do that.  The game?  Absolutely.  Had to be done.  And everyone needs to be tolerant of the consequences.

Pushing back the entire NFL schedule multiple weeks...if the game is that irrelevant, then find something more relevant do to.  You can't shut down a multi-billion dollar industry indefinitely.  

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Not to sound horrible here, but I don't think you can do that.  The game?  Absolutely.  Had to be done.  And everyone needs to be tolerant of the consequences.

Pushing back the entire NFL schedule multiple weeks...if the game is that irrelevant, then find something more relevant do to.  You can't shut down a multi-billion dollar industry indefinitely.  

Do you find it somewhat odd there’s been no update this morning? It feels ominous to me but I don’t know enough

31 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Bryce Brown was the man to tote the rock. 

Clearly we could use Darnell autry 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He's athletic and quick and having a really good season and a pro bowler, but you think he's average.  So you're saying you would prefer Jordan Howard or Ryan Matthews as they were in their 1 or 2 good seasons, instead of the seasons they had with us?  Is that what you're saying? 

 

 

I think this is really you looking for a scapegoat instead of putting the blame on your man crush Sirianni.  You're justifying the ridiculous approach the last few weeks by trying blame a pro bowl RB

Im not speaking to the gameplan at all at this point, we seem to be comparing RBs now and absolutely yes he is average and Id definitely take those other guys over him.  Not sure how much more clean I can be.   All of those guys were much more consistent, powerful runners that were more effective to me.

Mathews, Ajayi, and Howard all got dinged up qnd had shortened careers.  But at the height of all of their abilities, Sanders is the worst of all of the bunch.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

This country has become so GD soft.  Reminds me of all the George Floyd reaction, of course it was bad but people who otherwise wouldn't react will feel compelled to join in on the bandwagon or be labelled insensitive.    I am sure by tomorrow there will be commercials and hashtag something or other.  

 

Then again, this Canter fella is an agent.  So he is a disingenuous dckbag to begin with.  

He wouldn't be my agent asking a ridiculously dumb question like that. 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not to sound horrible here, but I don't think you can do that.  The game?  Absolutely.  Had to be done.  And everyone needs to be tolerant of the consequences.

Pushing back the entire NFL schedule multiple weeks...if the game is that irrelevant, then find something more relevant do to.  You can't shut down a multi-billion dollar industry indefinitely.  

It doesn't sound awful at all. The NFL pushed on after September 11th, it can for this. Hamlin's collapse was a tragic situation, but business operations must resume at some point. That doesn't mean it's easy to do so, but you do the best you can.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No doubt.  True professionals and lifesavers... All in a days' work for those guys I suppose.  My guess is that once that all starts, they get tunnel vision and don't even know that there's any one else around them.

In the hospital, any patient that arrests or deteriorates to the point of needing CPR results in a nurse calling a "code."  The code team rushes to see the patient and does their thing with compressions, shocks, meds, etc.  

They are pros and it's what they do.  

Even at an NFL football game...there's no mobile surgical ICU ready to be deployed on the sidelines.  There is no code team waiting to rush on the field.  The team docs and training staff aren't doing this with any meaningful frequency.  Paramedics...yes, absolutely.  They are probably the ones that actually took charge here.  They are the only medical personnel in the stadium that actually routinely deal with cardiac arrest.  

But for the personnel that does this all the time, like you said, it's a tunnel vision of focus and doesn't matter who is watching.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He wouldn't be my agent asking a ridiculously dumb question like that. 

It won’t happen

but if that actually did the eagles are one team that would really wind up benefitting from it being pushed back a week or two. Means hurts, CJGJ, maddox, lane and sweat would get extra weeks off to heal. Add on if the eagles got the 1 seed and the bye they potentially have 2 bye weeks in a month so they would be much fresher for that divisional game. Add on the eagles had their bye week in week 7 so would help that as well. Not that this matters in all of this going on with damar just would be hard to actually do and actually somehow benefit teams like the eagles 

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not to sound horrible here, but I don't think you can do that.  The game?  Absolutely.  Had to be done.  And everyone needs to be tolerant of the consequences.

Pushing back the entire NFL schedule multiple weeks...if the game is that irrelevant, then find something more relevant do to.  You can't shut down a multi-billion dollar industry indefinitely.  

Yeah, the show must go on after a point. If he does this week maybe they push it one because of optics. After that people have to realize they only pushed it a week for 9/11.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

This country has become so GD soft.  Reminds me of all the George Floyd reaction, of course it was bad but people who otherwise wouldn't react will feel compelled to join in on the bandwagon or be labelled insensitive.    I am sure by tomorrow there will be commercials and hashtag something or other.  

 

Then again, this Canter fella is an agent.  So he is a disingenuous dckbag to begin with.  

I agree. The Skip Bayless stuff to me is really disconcerting. He said absolutely nothing wrong and he's getting eviscerated in just the most vicious way for merely asking a question about how the NFL will handle a postponement. I mean, my god. Using a tragedy to virtue signal to your audience is way worse than anything Skip said. Not to mention how simplistic of a brain someone would need to have to think whatever someone tweets is 100% indicative of everything that's going on in their brain, and asking a question somehow correlates to them not having sympathy or sadness over a situation. It's pathetic. It's a pile-on. You mentioned the George Floyd situation, but to me it more reminded me of that Covington Catholic School situation. Everyone piled on those kids over what turned out to be total misinformation.

The thing I hate about pile-on's is they're vicious and brutal, and more often than not they start because of misunderstandings or misinformation. And once everything is straightened out, the person who is attacked never gets apologized to. People just move on to the next thing to be outraged over and leave the person attacked to deal with the aftermath.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It won’t happen

but if that actually did the eagles are one team that would really wind up benefitting from it being pushed back a week or two. Means hurts, CJGJ, maddox, lane and sweat would get extra weeks off to heal. Add on if the eagles got the 1 seed and the bye they potentially have 2 bye weeks in a month so they would be much fresher for that divisional game. Add on the eagles had their bye week in week 7 so would help that as well. 

It could mean problems for Lane if the Clay Harbor interview with John Clark was accurate. If it's a sports hernia he said they have to do the shots every so many weeks. If he is in the middle of a shot cycle that could mean the pain is too severe to play.

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

In the hospital, any patient that arrests or deteriorates to the point of needing CPR results in a nurse calling a "code."  The code team rushes to see the patient and does their thing with compressions, shocks, meds, etc.  

They are pros and it's what they do.  

Even at an NFL football game...there's no mobile surgical ICU ready to be deployed on the sidelines.  There is no code team waiting to rush on the field.  The team docs and training staff aren't doing this with any meaningful frequency.  Paramedics...yes, absolutely.  They are probably the ones that actually took charge here.  They are the only medical personnel in the stadium that actually routinely deal with cardiac arrest.  

But for the personnel that does this all the time, like you said, it's a tunnel vision of focus and doesn't matter who is watching.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is at least one independent neurologist on the sidelines. I'd wager there are team doctors there as well. They may not do it frequently, but they are fully capable of handing things.

24 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

A few blog members in the armed forces have obviously spoken to similar things when they were deployed.  I've had colleagues continue operating after being notified of unexpected deaths of family members.  And work obviously keeps going on after witnessing deaths of patients.  

NFL players didn't sign up for any of that though.  It speaks to the frivolity of the game.  Football is an escape, professional athletes are coddled, and it's extra jarring for everyone, players, fans, and coaches included to see raw humanity and tragedy in their weekly fantasy escape from reality.  It was an especially traumatic event for the players and despite all the pressure they operate under, they just aren't equipped to continue to function after something like that.  Other types of workers actually might be.

Everyone goes back to work after the death of a loved one.  The question is how quickly does that happen.  I think playing games on Sunday shouldn't be an issue for them.  It will be hard.  But, going back to work after a loved one passes is always hard.  I suppose the biggest difference that the work they are going back to do, is exactly how this issue arose for Hamlin.  Hopefully there is some good news long before Sunday so that it weighs a little less heavy on them.

 

But, at the same time, they also do things with their bodies that most people would never dream of.  Most people who get an injury even a fraction of the severity as some of these players would be on workman's compensation for the next 6-12 months... Some of these things, the players play through and get the surgery in the offseason.  Very few of us would take a pain killer injection just to be able to go out and do our jobs.   Certain things are engrained in them about toughness and playing through things.  But, death (or near death) isn't one of them.  Firefighters, police, EMTs... they see death in their job, and some of them have the threat of death as a strong reality each and every time they go to work.  And... if it happens around them, they still have the same job to do... sometimes if they don't continue on in that job, someone else will die as well.   

 

I can tell you that in my profession, death is not a constant companion, but when I turn on the news and see another shooting at a school, a shiver runs down my spine.  The reality that that is possible exists in my job, even more so than it does for football players, even though they play a very dangerous game.  But... were something like this to happen, I would be massively shook.   I had a student just last year suffer a seizure in my class (with no history) and fell off her stool hitting her head hard on the floor.  My admin was actually very good about it... they took my students to another room while I filled out the accident report and gave me the rest of the day to compose myself (it happened in the final block of the day).  Fortunately, she ended up ok, and this episode for her actually alerted her family to a genetically carried heart condition (Long QT, for those interested) that she had that they didn't know about... but had killed her uncle when he was about her age.  So, in the long run, that event was a positive one as it found a massive problem and now she's under treatment for it and doing well.  But, I can't tell you how long afterwards it was before I was 'fine'.  And my nerves were a wreck the very next day at school as well... but I went back to work and did my job.  Partly, because the kids in that class needed normalcy as well, and were also quite shock up... and partly because I needed to get back to normal too.

13 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Do you find it somewhat odd there’s been no update this morning? It feels ominous to me but I don’t know enough

HIPAA is at play here.  He's likely not in a position to give permission to share, and his mother might want privacy.   The hospital can't divulge anything without consent.   I take it as a no news is good news sort of thing right now... because no news means it isn't the worst news.  I pray we hear actual good news soon, but I just don't know that his mother (or whomever his HIPAA person is) is interested in answering questions or even worried about sharing.  This is a very private thing that happened in the most public of settings.  It has to be immensely difficult.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I agree. The Skip Bayless stuff to me is really disconcerting. He said absolutely nothing wrong and he's getting eviscerated in just the most vicious way for merely asking a question about how the NFL will handle a postponement. I mean, my god. Using a tragedy to virtue signal to your audience is way worse than anything Skip said. Not to mention how simplistic of a brain someone would need to have to think whatever someone tweets is 100% indicative of everything that's going on in their brain, and asking a question somehow correlates to them not having sympathy or sadness over a situation. It's pathetic. It's a pile-on. You mentioned the George Floyd situation, but to me it more reminded me of that Covington Catholic School situation. Everyone piled on those kids over what turned out to be total misinformation.

The thing I hate about pile-on's is they're vicious and brutal, and more often than not they start because of misunderstandings or misinformation. And once everything is straightened out, the person who is attacked never gets apologized to. People just move on to the next thing to be outraged over and leave the person attacked to deal with the aftermath.

All you need to know is, the 5 most popular baby names for boys in 2022 were -- Liam, Noah, Oliver, Elijah, Mateo

Those kids got teased mercilessly when I was in school.  Times have changed.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is at least one independent neurologist on the sidelines. I'd wager there are team doctors there as well. They may not do it frequently, but they are fully capable of handing things.

A neurologist would be clueless what to do for him.  Most doctors would freeze up in that situation too.

That's an ACLS situation where you want someone (doctor, nurse, paramedic, trainer, or otherwise) who does it often taking charge there.  Anyone who doesn't do this routinely is going to be a bit sloppier...doesn't mean they can't do it, but it's not an easy thing to just bust out once every few years.

 

 

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Clearly we could use Darnell autry 

I want Siran Stacy.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I want Siran Stacy.

Any chance Vai has a little juice left and can return kicks and punts.