Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

It could also be possible the Bills/Bengals both said "screw seeding, we aren't playing" and they are fine with not making up the game. It would be an unprecedented move for two teams to think that way but this is also an unprecedented situation. 

I’m not saying it’s the best idea but we update the rosters on super techmo bowl and let the computer simulate the game. Winner takes the win and loser takes the loss. 

3 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

What if the Bengals just forfeit the game and give the Bills the W. What a ballsy and standup move that would be. A Joe Burrow type move!

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It could also be possible the Bills/Bengals both said "screw seeding, we aren't playing" and they are fine with not making up the game. It would be an unprecedented move for two teams to think that way but this is also an unprecedented situation. 

Interesting thoughts.  Bengals also, with a win last night, a win next week and a KC loss would be the #1 seed.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The Chiefs are also very affected. So are the Ravens. 

Yep, just looked.  A Bills win last night and a Ravens win next week, the Ravens win the AFCN.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m not saying it’s the best idea but we update the rosters on super techmo bowl and let the computer simulate the game. Winner takes the win and loser takes the loss. 

Who gets Bo?

Holy cow, his 2500 goal is getting obliterated.

 

 

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

The Chiefs are also very affected. So are the Ravens. 

Of course, but the outcome of the game was ultimately out of their control from the start so I don't think they really should weigh in here either. Leave it up to the teams directly impacted 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Who gets Bo?

Dave Meggett would always kill me in that game too 

Said it a while ago...  This Bills/Bengals game has huge seeding implications.  Bengals can move from 1 to 6.  Bills from 1 to 3.  It is a conundrum.  The right decision was made last night.  Now the tough decision is how to figure out how to move forward from here.  It is a delicate situation, and no matter what is decided... someone will be upset.

What is the economic impact of just pushing everything back a week?  

All playoff teams get a 1 week bye.  The top seeds get 2 weeks.  And during the "universal playoff bye," the Bills and Bengals play a game.  

That could get weird if the Bengals beat the Ravens next week...because then you have the Bengals playing a meaningless game for themselves against the Bills.  They'd rather forfeit.  

Just now, eagle45 said:

What is the economic impact of just pushing everything back a week?  

All playoff teams get a 1 week bye.  The top seeds get 2 weeks.  And during the "universal playoff bye," the Bills and Bengals play a game.  

That could get weird if the Bengals beat the Ravens next week...because then you have the Bengals playing a meaningless game for themselves against the Bills.  They'd rather forfeit.  

Only meaningless if the Chiefs win.  A Chiefs loss and then that game between Bills and Bengals is for the top seed.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What is the economic impact of just pushing everything back a week?  

All playoff teams get a 1 week bye.  The top seeds get 2 weeks.  And during the "universal playoff bye," the Bills and Bengals play a game.  

That could get weird if the Bengals beat the Ravens next week...because then you have the Bengals playing a meaningless game for themselves against the Bills.  They'd rather forfeit.  

If the Chiefs somehow lost to the Raiders and the Bengals beat the Ravens, then the Bengals and Bills would be playing for the #1 seed.

29 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Give the Chiefs the bye and the Bills the home game if they meet in the playoffs.

Splits the benefits of the #1 seed.

That’s an interesting idea. I think I like it as a solution. But obviously only if they both end the season with the same number of losses.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Dave Meggett would always kill me in that game too 

I liked to go with the Mack attack - he was like Bo-lite in that game.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Only meaningless if the Chiefs win.  A Chiefs loss and then that game between Bills and Bengals is for the top seed.

 

Just now, downundermike said:

If the Chiefs somehow lost to the Raiders and the Bengals beat the Ravens, then the Bengals and Bills would be playing for the #1 seed.

In which case, that would become a spectacular one-off end of the year regular season game...

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

So I appreciate the research but I think that is a very strange way to analyze an individual RB.

Youre essentially comparing them based on how they performed vs. their teammates in any given season?

To me that seems like a very flawed analysis: Blount and Ajayi split carries as part of a RB By Committee approach in 2017, for example.   Ajayi averaged 5.8 ypc in 7 games with Philly but Blount was 4.4 ypc for the whole season.

Could you really use that data to come to any conclusions in terms of who is the better RB?  I wouldn't.

You said that Sanders benefited from high numbers of Carrie’s. The stats clearly show that his numbers of Carrie’s was average at best. Ajayi’s YPC says to me he had more field vision than Blount.

Sanders’ YPC tells me something especially given his very low relative longest carry value.

Seeding implications isn't really the problem.  If you needed a certain specific outcome to better your positioning or make the playoffs at all, you should have won more games.  Not worried about that at all. 

The only thing that's important, football operations wise is to ensure that the Bills and Bengals are satisfied with whatever the outcome of their game is.  If it's declared a tie, replayed in a week, whatever.  It's their game to decide, not anyone else's.

1 minute ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Seeding implications isn't really the problem.  If you needed a certain specific outcome to better your positioning or make the playoffs at all, you should have won more games.  Not worried about that at all. 

The only thing that's important, football operations wise is to ensure that the Bills and Bengals are satisfied with whatever the outcome of their game is.  If it's declared a tie, replayed in a week, whatever.  It's their game to decide, not anyone else's.

Dumb take.  If the Bills won, they would have the same amount of wins as the Chiefs, with a head to head victory.

You expect them to have as many wins as them with less game played ??

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Said it a while ago...  This Bills/Bengals game has huge seeding implications.  Bengals can move from 1 to 6.  Bills from 1 to 3.  It is a conundrum.  The right decision was made last night.  Now the tough decision is how to figure out how to move forward from here.  It is a delicate situation, and no matter what is decided... someone will be upset.

That's why I think there will be no firm decision until after the Week 18 dust settles. See where everything lies after the games conclude and take it from there. 

Honestly not even sure how the Bills will even be able to get up for this Week 18 game as it is, but they aren't going to cancel that. 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Dumb take.  If the Bills won, they would have the same amount of wins as the Chiefs, with a head to head victory.

You expect them to have as many wins as them with less game played ??

That is up for them to decide with the NFL and the Bengals.  It was between the two of them to decide the outcome of the game.  Whatever they both feel is fair is what should be.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's why I think there will be no firm decision until after the Week 18 dust settles. See where everything lies after the games conclude and take it from there. 

Honestly not even sure how the Bills will even be able to get up for this Week 18 game as it is, but they aren't going to cancel that. 

And any scenario that pushes the playoffs back a week is an advantage to the Eagles.  They can then rest an extra week, and have an extra week to get Lane and Sweat healthy.

1 minute ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Seeding implications isn't really the problem.  If you needed a certain specific outcome to better your positioning or make the playoffs at all, you should have won more games.  Not worried about that at all. 

The only thing that's important, football operations wise is to ensure that the Bills and Bengals are satisfied with whatever the outcome of their game is.  If it's declared a tie, replayed in a week, whatever.  It's their game to decide, not anyone else's.

In an ideal world maybe but letting the teams settle the outcome without the league adjudicating the situation could leave a lot of room for foul play. I'm not making this claim for this situation but, imagine the same situation in which 1 team, if awarded a tie gets the bye and #1 seed and the outcome for the other is meaningless. Owner A calls Owner B, offers a side deal for the outcome they want and the latitude given for the teams to decide becomes compromised with self interest.

Goodell's salary is about $64,000,000. He is paid more than enough to put his a$$ on the line and make a decision that is a compromise, no one will be entirely happy, but is in the best interest of the league, overall.

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Of course, but the outcome of the game was ultimately out of their control from the start so I don't think they really should weigh in here either. Leave it up to the teams directly impacted 

I can’t really think of an option that doesn’t directly affect at least one other team. For example, a tie would give the Bengals the division title and that would directly affect the Ravens. 
 

In the end of the day, the league will aim for the least amount of disruption combined with the greatest level of fairness reasonably attainable for all teams. Far as I can tell that means just going with cancelling the game. 

40 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Just simulate the game on madden and we use the results of the game. 

Just determine the winner based on win probability. That’s more important than the scoreboard anyway. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

What are we looking at here?  Explain?

Every NFL team made their twitter pfp the same