18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Edited:  I originally had the Oilers and Titans combined for Houston.

Yeah, it is confusing using any list, as it lists the Oilers as "HOU", but those records are part of "TEN" history.

@LeanMeanGM  Eagles 31 Saints 19

BONUS: Minshew passes for at least 300 yards.

5 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

People are allowed to be close friends.  I don’t know why the NFL has to be different.  I see nothing wrong with it.  

Didn’t say there was anything wrong with it. Admirable that Adams still was sticking up for carr. However i also know carr has been bad for about a month now. So he likely deserved to be benched with basically 1% chance to make the playoffs as the raiders likely moving in another direction. His last 4 games he’s completing 53% of his passes (63-118), QB rating is 63, he has 6 td passes to 7 ints and throwing for 198 yards a game. Really the patriots game he was fortunate the officials messed up and gave him a td cause every replay showed his WRs foot is out of bounds so his numbers should be worse. 

that said doesn’t help carr that josh mcdaniels isn’t a very good coach and they look inept most of the time with what they are trying to do. Also got to remember i believe stidham was with NE with mcdaniels so I’m guessing mcdaniels likes him and wants to see him in the offense (he isn’t good)

37 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

 

 

Perhaps this "having a WR get 100+ catches" doesn't actually mean anything in a team sport.

 

10 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I agree with you. Over the past thirty years, the Eagles have been one of the winningest teams in the entire league. Why does it matter if their leading receiver catches a certain number of balls? 

Oh come on. It is absolutely ridiculous. When only 2 teams (I'm counting the old Oilers for Tennessee) haven't hit it, and the other team is the Browns....it's OK to be critical of the franchise sometimes

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I agree with you. Over the past thirty years, the Eagles have been one of the winningest teams in the entire league. Why does it matter if their leading receiver catches a certain number of balls? 

We are talking about it in regards to franchise records, not winning.  We have had some bad seasons like any other team when they set those records.

The point of this entire discussion has been our franchise single season records are just not very impressive.

Example, Carson Wentz holds the single season passing record for the Eagles at 4,039 yards.  That ranks T-195th all time for singles season passing.  Dan Fouts had more yards than that in 1979.

36 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

His name I can’t quite recall

Kendall Wright

 

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

We are talking about it in regards to franchise records, not winning.  We have had some bad seasons like any other team when they set those records.

The point of this entire discussion has been our franchise single season records are just not very impressive.

Example, Carson Wentz holds the single season passing record for the Eagles at 4,039 yards.  That ranks T-195th all time for singles season passing.  Dan Fouts had more yards than that in 1979.

Tbh the passing yards one is the one i would have thought would be higher with the rule changes that came into play in the 2000s. This year alone have 6 Qbs a 4000 and likely gonna finish with 9 that do it this weekend with a game to play. Somehow Russ for missing a game and being as bad as he has been is over 3000 this year. 

I think it's funny that Josh McDaniels has been to two teams and in under a full season has driven away both of his QBs who were both kind of in the same tier. Cutler and Carr are kinda the same guy to me. Cutler went on to play well(at times) for another team, though end up still being Cutler because you can't change who you are at your core. I have a feeling Carr will be kinda the same. He'll go somewhere and play really well at times, but in the end still end up not being good enough to win with. Will McDaniels draft his new Tebow this year in the draft? Who's a QB coming out this year who is a great runner but can't throw?

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh the passing yards one is the one i would have thought would be higher with the rule changes that came into play in the 2000s. This year alone have 6 Qbs a 4000 and likely gonna finish with 9 that do it this weekend with a game to play. Somehow Russ for missing a game and being as bad as he has been is over 3000 this year. 

The Saints have ( 5 ) 5000 yard passing seasons, the Eagles have 1 barely 4000 yard passing season.

19 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

 

Oh come on. It is absolutely ridiculous. When only 2 teams (I'm counting the old Oilers for Tennessee) haven't hit it, and the other team is the Browns....it's OK to be critical of the franchise sometimes

Okay,

Other than Jerry Rice, how many Super Bowl rings do these players have?

NFL History - Receiving Leaders

 

Receiving Leaders
RK	PLAYER	REC
1	Jerry Rice	1,549
2	Larry Fitzgerald	1,432
3	Tony Gonzalez	1,325
4	Jason Witten	1,228
5	Marvin Harrison	1,102
6	Cris Carter	1,101
7	Tim Brown	1,094
8	Terrell Owens	1,078
9	Anquan Boldin	1,076
10	Reggie Wayne	1,070

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Okay,

Other than Jerry Rice, how many Super Bowl rings do these players have?

NFL History - Receiving Leaders

 

Receiving Leaders
RK	PLAYER	REC
1	Jerry Rice	1,549
2	Larry Fitzgerald	1,432
3	Tony Gonzalez	1,325
4	Jason Witten	1,228
5	Marvin Harrison	1,102
6	Cris Carter	1,101
7	Tim Brown	1,094
8	Terrell Owens	1,078
9	Anquan Boldin	1,076
10	Reggie Wayne	1,070

Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Anquan Boldin have a Super Bowl ring.

Tim Brown Larry Fitzgerald and Terrell Owens have all been to a Super Bowl.

So 7 of the 10 have played in a Super Bowl, and all 7 of the 8 WR's on this list have played in a Super Bowl.

Cris Carter is the only WR on this list to never play in a Super Bowl.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Okay,

Other than Jerry Rice, how many Super Bowl rings do these players have?

NFL History - Receiving Leaders

 

Receiving Leaders
RK	PLAYER	REC
1	Jerry Rice	1,549
2	Larry Fitzgerald	1,432
3	Tony Gonzalez	1,325
4	Jason Witten	1,228
5	Marvin Harrison	1,102
6	Cris Carter	1,101
7	Tim Brown	1,094
8	Terrell Owens	1,078
9	Anquan Boldin	1,076
10	Reggie Wayne	1,070

Nobody is attempting to correlate 100 catch seasons with winning the Super Bowl.

Again, considering how long the Eagles have been in the league, it's somewhat baffling they've never had a 100 catch season from a WR. And the only other team in the same boat is one of the worst franchises of all time. I'm not saying it makes the Eagles a bad franchise either....it's just....embarrassing. 

Another franchise record, Shady McCoy 1607 yards, which is an impressive number, but ranks 54th all time.

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The Saints have ( 5 ) 5000 yard passing seasons, the Eagles have 1 barely 4000 yard passing season.

I’m guessing most of those were with brees

A fact I find interesting is that the Chargers have had Dan Fouts, Drew, Brees, Philip Rivers, and Justin Herbert and yet the only quarterback in their history to take them to a Super Bowl was Stan Humphreys

We've been talking about the Giants resting their starters for the playoffs in week 18. If the current playoff picture holds, there may be even more of a reason to rest. I haven't done the calculations yet, but is it possible for the Giants to win vs the Colts and still end up at the 7 seed? Or will they be locked in as the 6th seed?

If it is possible, I'd imagine they'd much rather play the Vikings, a team they almost beat, in the first round than having to go into San Fran. Could give them more motivation to loose week 18, if that possibility is real.

Historically, the Eagles have had very little success with individual offensive statistical achievements.  That is unusual considering that AR was the coach for a decade. 

It is what it is.

Defensively, we’ve seen several players pile on sacks and INTs.

The funniest thing about this entire single season records discussion, is folks are now asking what did these players win, when a couple weeks ago all most folks cared about was Hurts winning an individual award and talking about him breaking X,Y, Z Eagles single season record.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

We've been talking about the Giants resting their starters for the playoffs in week 18. If the current playoff picture holds, there may be even more of a reason to rest. I haven't done the calculations yet, but is it possible for the Giants to win vs the Colts and still end up at the 7 seed? Or will they be locked in as the 6th seed?

If it is possible, I'd imagine they'd much rather play the Vikings, a team they almost beat, in the first round than having to go into San Fran.

If I were a Giants fan, I’d probably want all the critical players to rest against the Eagles.  
 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Nobody is attempting to correlate 100 catch seasons with winning the Super Bowl.

Again, considering how long the Eagles have been in the league, it's somewhat baffling they've never had a 100 catch season from a WR. And the only other team in the same boat is one of the worst franchises of all time. I'm not saying it makes the Eagles a bad franchise either....it's just....embarrassing. 

Again, there's nothing embarrassing or pathetic about it.  It does almost nothing to compile individual stats in a team game, and it's not an indicator of overall success.

Since 2000, the Eagles NFL rank in points scored is as follows:

2000 12th, 2001 9th, 2002 4th, 2003 11th, 2004 8th, 2005 18th, 2006 6th, 2007 17th, 2008 6th, 2009 5th, 2010 3rd, 2011 8th, 2012 29th, 2013 4th, 2014 3rd, 2015 13th, 2016 16th, 2017 3rd, 2018 18th, 2019 12th, 2020 26th, 2021 12th, 2022 1st

That's 12 years with a top-10 offense in points scored.  More years than not.  Those 12 years cover 4 different head coaches -- Reid, Kelly, Pederson, Sirianni.  Any of the seasons you see them in the bottom half they almost immediately correct course.

If you want to keep making an equivalency to the Browns, go ahead.  I don't see it.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Historically, the Eagles have had very little success with individual offensive statistical achievements.  That is unusual considering that AR was the coach for a decade. 

It is what it is.

Defensively, we’ve seen several players pile on sacks and INTs.

Eagles have 5 of the top 33 single sack seasons.  That is impressive.

@LeanMeanGM

Eagles 20

Saints 16

 

Minshew floats 2 more interceptions 

A Giants W locks them into the #6 seed. They can't catch Dallas and even if Washington wins out, they have the tie-breaker at 8-6-1.

Basically, a Giants W over the Colts makes their last game 100% meaningless. They're better off resting. They have star-level guys who have played too many snaps as is (Dexter Williams, Barkley).

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Again, there's nothing embarrassing or pathetic about it.  It does almost nothing to compile individual stats in a team game, and it's not an indicator of overall success.

Since 2000, the Eagles NFL rank in points scored is as follows:

2000 12th, 2001 9th, 2002 4th, 2003 11th, 2004 8th, 2005 18th, 2006 6th, 2007 17th, 2008 6th, 2009 5th, 2010 3rd, 2011 8th, 2012 29th, 2013 4th, 2014 3rd, 2015 13th, 2016 16th, 2017 3rd, 2018 18th, 2019 12th, 2020 26th, 2021 12th, 2022 1st

That's 12 years with a top-10 offense in points scored.  More years than not.  Those 12 years cover 4 different head coaches -- Reid, Kelly, Pederson, Sirianni.  Any of the seasons you see them in the bottom half they almost immediately correct course.

If you want to keep making an equivalency to the Browns, go ahead.  I don't see it.

You keep arguing team stats. Mike and I are discussing individual stats. And we aren't arguing that it correlates to overall team success. We're simply stating that it's embarrassing/pathetic that a team that's been around for nearly 100 years hasn't had an individual WR hit 100 catches. It's embarrassing/pathetic because EVERY other team has done so, EXCEPT for the worst (maybe 2nd worst behind Detroit) franchise in the league. That's bad company to be in, irrespective of anything else. 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Again, there's nothing embarrassing or pathetic about it.

Good god man, get a grip.  We are not talking about team success, points scored or any of that.

FACT : The Eagles single season offensive records are just not very impressive.

You keep asking how many Super Bowls did X,Y and Z win.  Well, there has been 56 Super Bowls played, and we only have 1, so using that comparison holds no weight.