13 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Explain what you mean by unsustainable?

Its not sustainable for 90% of the college football world.  Most programs dont have money falling from the sky.

Look outside of the top 8-9 programs and you will see absolute chaos. 

Look at the transfer portal.  There are thousands of kids without a home.  

If youre just watching Alabama every week, ok, great.  But Im talking about the health of the sport as a whole. 

It just cant be set up and sold and marketed like a pro league with unfettered free agency, where there is only champion and nothing else matters and every roster is in constant flux.  Its an ever-widening gulf.

1 hour ago, NCTANK said:

hasn’t college football always been about the upper tier? i’m old enough to remember if you weren’t Notre Dame, or Nebraska, or Oklahoma, you didn’t stand a snowballs chance in hell of being even considered for a title. fast forward decades and only the names have changed but the antiquated system was still in place. at least now there is a playoff where you have to earn it on the field. it’s better now and i say expand it even more. take away these meaningless bowl games, where many of the stars opt out anyway, and give them something to actually play for besides a bucket of mayonnaise. 

No, college football has not always been about the upper tier.  Piling out of the dorm room and walking to the game arm in arm with your fellow students and enthusiastic alumni was just as real at all colleges.  It wasn’t a university atmosphere. It was college.  What the upper tier universities did was not something you experienced, it was something you watched on television … unless you happened to be a student at one of those upper tier universities. 
 

Regarding the Bowls, there are more Bowl games now than there ever were 20-30-40-50 years ago.  Bowl games are important parts of the local economy of their host cities.  They promote their community as a tourist destination.  Local hotels fill up.  Local restaurants have an influx of customers.  Neither of those benefits happen through TV watching.  They happen by attending the game.

9 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Imagine being this naive 

Its not naivete you canadian moron, its simply an observation.

At some point you have to look around and ask "what are we doing here?"

NFL has us ranked 5th going into the postseason, behind Niners, Bills, Bengals and Chiefs in that order.

I guess that's about right. Maybe I'd have Cincinnati fourth.

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Why can't education and money making go hand in hand? 

Im baffled by this question.  Are you serious, Clark?

14 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Um, the several million people that go to the game every weekend.  If you take the top 10 average attendance, that is almost 1 million people at a college football game any given weekend.

https://www.d1ticker.com/2022-fbs-attendance-trends/

 

Yeah youre not getting my point but whatever, you do you

College sports>pro sports

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Its not naivete you canadian moron, its simply an observation.

At some point you have to look around and ask "what are we doing here?"

Naive would be going to West Virginia and expecting to come away with anything resembling an education.

8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Something's also not right about the schools raking in millions of dollars while the kids assume all the risk.

I agree with that 100%

I think it was Bob Ryan who once said that college athletics is like visiting a prostitute -- it feels great in the moment but then you feel regret and shame.  And thats how I feel about it now.

As I said in a previous post, I was all for the kids getting their money.  But the portal and NIL is just out of control.

 

Crazy how in one week span the NFL is no more and now college sports just collapsed on itself. 

5 minutes ago, Eagz said:

NFL has us ranked 5th going into the postseason, behind Niners, Bills, Bengals and Chiefs in that order.

I guess that's about right. Maybe I'd have Cincinnati fourth.

Good.

 

15 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The biggest problem in college football is that there is very little competitive balance.  The only way to change that is to give players the ability to change schools and allow teams to compensate players.  Of course, boosters for years have been paying for kids to play football either under the table or by giving parents jobs/money.  It isn't like paying players is new.  It's just now legal and above board.  Frankly, the universities should be more concerned about the players and what leads them to reach their goals rather than what conference gives them the most money.  

That won't fix the competitive balance.  Mark my words, the imbalance will get worse, not better.  We are see it already with the creation of the mega-conferences and the demise of the other conferences.

 

There used to be the SEC, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 8, SWC, and Pac-8/10 - and some sizable independent schools.  And getting a bid to a bowl game was a really big deal.  Then, the conferences started to recruit from other conferences, recruit the independents...  And now that process is accelerating to the point that there's going to be two main conferences... and everyone else will be in a much lower tier.

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I’m okay expanding the playoffs, but only to six teams. I’m not a fan of the 12 team expansion. But money talks. 

I totally oppose six teams.  It needs to be 8 or 16. Having it be 6 or 12 means teams get bye weeks and subjective decisions are made about which teams get a bye.  Play the games on the field, not in smoke filled back rooms.

 

JMO

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Naive would be going to West Virginia and expecting to come away with anything resembling an education.

And here I thought we were going to have a civil discussion for once in about 2 years.  

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah youre not getting my point but whatever, you do you

You have no point.  College football is not going anywhere.

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

TCU getting blown out isn’t anything new in the CFB playoff since they started it around 10 years ago. There have been 27 CFB playoff games and 19 of them have had a winning margin of three touchdowns or more. So a majority of the time, one team is significantly better than the other and the two semi final games we saw this year were outliers, not the norm. I don’t have an issue with TCU getting in. You can’t say they didn’t deserve it with how they beat Michigan. I’m okay expanding the playoffs, but only to six teams. I’m not a fan of the 12 team expansion. But money talks. 

I'd be ok with 8 teams max

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Crazy how in one week span the NFL is no more and now college sports just collapsed on itself. 

Craziest collapse of football in 30 years.

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I agree with that 100%

I think it was Bob Ryan who once said that college athletics is like visiting a prostitute -- it feels great in the moment but then you feel regret and shame.  And thats how I feel about it now.

As I said in a previous post, I was all for the kids getting their money.  But the portal and NIL is just out of control.

 

Well, then all that money has to go somewhere, doesn't it? And since it sure as hell ain't going to academic facilities (have you seen the locker rooms compared to the chemistry labs? lmao) some of it might as well go to the kids putting their health and wellbeing on the line every week.

22 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

It is.  But, its college.  Not the NFL 

Somethings not right about that.  These are supposed to be educational institutions. 

Paying off players has been going on for YEARS. The only difference now is that they have made it open to the public and slapped the "NIL" label on it. Reggie Bush lost his Heisman because he took money and now it's commonplace for players to get seven-figure deals. It's also been going on in college basketball for years too. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

You have no point.  College football is not going anywhere.

I know plenty of people (myself included) that watch more college football then they do NFL

Just now, downundermike said:

You have no point.  College football is not going anywhere.

Yeah I have no point, other than the paragraphs I just wrote---and to which others have responded.

Maybe you and the other teenagers can just F Off since you get so butthurt when someone disagrees with you

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I'd be ok with 8 teams max

Hey man, tagged you in the EMB mock draft thread.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

And here I thought we were going to have a civil discussion for once in about 2 years.  

You just got done calling him a canadian moron  

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah I have no point, other than the paragraphs I just wrote---and to which others have responded.

Maybe you and the other teenagers can just F Off since you get so butthurt when someone disagrees with you

I disagree with you, but I did it with facts.  The top 10 stadiums in college football put 1 million fans in the seats.  It is not going away, ever.

 

Just now, downundermike said:

Hey man, tagged you in the EMB mock draft thread.

My bad. I forgot to respond. When do you need to know by?