2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Are you more or less likely to tune in?

 

Back in the 1980s/early 1990s, the NFL Superstars competitions were actually entertaining.  This?  It's just getting worse, but at least the risk of injury is dropping.   Although, Robert Edwards would likely disagree... his career was destroyed by a flag football game on the beach.

I haven't watched one in years but since this is different I may tune in or see highlights

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And yet, we were picked apart by certain teams during the course of the year in the passing game - aka, 'susceptible'.

Even the best defenses can have bad games and would be susceptible going by this definition, but over the course of a season, we were very strong against the pass this year. Much stronger than we were in 2017. Probably a better analog would be to say we were strong against the pass but vulnerable against the run to a similar the exact same degree that the 2017 defense was strong against the run but vulnerable against the pass. 

EDIT: looked it up and apparently they are perfectly inverse... 2017 we were ranked 17th in pass defense and 1st in run defense, 2022 we were 1st in pass D and 17th in run D.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/opp.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/opp.htm

5 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

That was the first game. The second game in Santa Clara ended at 21-13 in week 15. Geno had a pass TD to Fant.

Week 15 - 21-13 was in Seattle

 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Miami will actually be the perfect fit for a veteran QB looking to win.  Granted, you don't want to deal with Mahomes/Burrow/Allen/Herbert in-conference, but it's a fantastic team to join.

Should be on the radar for Jimmy G, Brady, Rodgers, Carr.

Rodgers with Waddle and Hill would be pretty fun. Probably a TD on every offsides because he could just bomb it and one of them will go and get it lol

Jimmy G should not be a QB a team on the brink is looking for. He's pedestrian. He gives you nothing Tua doesn't. If a team out there is looking to take it to the next level, and they go after Jimmy G... yeeesh.

I don't understand the hype over Payton

20 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I was thinking the same thing. Even the Chargers game is a little funky. Everyone is probably looking at the Chargers to win, and Jacksonville was not supposed to be there, so they are playing with house money. Add in that Mike Williams is hurt and even if he plays, he will be limited, and the Chargers D has been susceptible to the run over the last few weeks, makes me think that this game is going to be very close.

I still look at Seattle and think that there is a chance they could win. While the whole "Hard to beat a team 3 times in a season" is a bunch of garbage, I do think that they will be better prepared this time to play them. The last game played was still one-possession game with around 3:30 left in the game. They do have the ability to keep up with the 49ers and win. They will be considered complete underdogs going into the game and will be another team playing with house money. I like their chances more then if Green Bay was there.

Then again it could also be wishful thinking.

I’m of a different mind on the Jags-Chargers game. I feel that’s the biggest home team advantage next to SF-Sea.

Not only did Jacksonville blow the breaks off of the Chargers in LA this year, which the game is now in Duval, but the Chargers’ coach is a very untrustworthy big game manger. Jag’s coach couldn’t be more opposite

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I haven't watched one in years but since this is different I may tune in or see highlights

Doesn't seem all that different from last year's though, aside maybe from the weird water balloon thing. Everything else looks to be the same I think.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jimmy G should not be a QB a team on the brink is looking for. He's pedestrian. He gives you nothing Tua doesn't. If a team out there is looking to take it to the next level, and they go after Jimmy G... yeeesh.

The Jets are at a stage in their life cycle where Carr or Garappolo makes sense for them.  They need legitimacy on offense, and those two guys provide that at least.  No way the Jets can go back into the draft for a QB after botching a #3 and a #2 overall pick consecutively.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Even the best defenses can have bad games and would be susceptible going by this definition, but over the course of a season, we were very strong against the pass this year. Much stronger than we were in 2017. Probably a better analog would be to say we were strong against the pass but vulnerable against the run to a similar degree that the 2017 defense was strong against the run but vulnerable against the pass. 

EDIT: looked it up and apparently they are perfectly inverse... 2017 we were ranked 17th in pass defense and 1st in run defense, 2022 we were 1st in pass D and 17th in run D.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/opp.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/opp.htm

That is interesting.  Doesn't feel that way for some reason.   I guess the early season games of getting run over are in the rear view mirror for me.  The weaker passing games, not yet.  And that 3rd and 30 looms large in my memory.  I can't say it single handedly lost the game for them, but it was pretty close.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jimmy G should not be a QB a team on the brink is looking for. He's pedestrian. He gives you nothing Tua doesn't. If a team out there is looking to take it to the next level, and they go after Jimmy G... yeeesh.

His availability gives you something Tua doesn't.

They may have a gaping hole at QB and are looking for someone to serviceably play the position.  Taking it to the next level is a luxury that may not be available.  If Rodgers is not available/retired, Jimmy G belongs on the short list.

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't understand the hype over Payton

A lot of it is PR. Similar stuff happened to Dungy. TB was immediately a SB champion after he left, and Indy immediately made the SB after he left there as well. Not that he wasn’t a very good coach, but Dungy/McCarthy/Payton all have very similar resumé’s: All-time great QB’s for extended periods, made a single SB with them… and otherwise a lot of disappointing seasons. Yet people sometimes act like Dungy was borderline Mt Rushmore if he didn’t retire early.

One could argue Peyton’s teams were better after Dungy, even after Peyton lost his arm strength. Was John Fox a better coach than Dungy? No. Were his teams that much more talented than Wayne and Harrison and Saturday and Freeney et al? Maybe. But what is it that makes Dungy so more revered? He’s a great public speaker. PR.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Doesn't seem all that different from last year's though, aside maybe from the weird water balloon thing. Everything else looks to be the same I think.

I haven't seen these new ones lol

I stopped around when they had team captains of each conference 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That is interesting.  Doesn't feel that way for some reason.   I guess the early season games of getting run over are in the rear view mirror for me.  The weaker passing games, not yet.  And that 3rd and 30 looms large in my memory.  I can't say it single handedly lost the game for them, but it was pretty close.

Ugh. Don't remind me. Still fuming over that. And the decision to spike it at the end while leaving a TO in our pocket with double zeroes on the clock. Things like that tend to bother me for years. I'm still upset at BG missing on the sack at the end of LII and letting Brady get the pass off regardless of the outcome.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't understand the hype over Payton

Drew Brees made that guy, not the other way around.

He's just a Hot Take name...but, hey...hope he gets the Cowgirls job, love to spank him twice a year...

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Likely a PFF score so take it for what it is. 1st in Illegal Man Downfield penalty calls too, I suspect. Frankly, I don’t see him outperforming Isaac, who starts every shotgun play away staring back at Hurts and then tapping Kelce.  Of course, the fact that Seumalo uses a C stance helps him perfect that.  Glad JustRelax pointed that out. 

Dickerson has been good at this point in his career.  Seumalo has been good as well but has the benefit of playing next to Lane.  

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jimmy G should not be a QB a team on the brink is looking for.

He has been to 2 conference title games and 1 Super Bowl.

Of the potentially available QB's, only Brady and Rodgers have been to more.

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Week 15 - 21-13 was in Seattle

 

I knew that. I dont know why I wrote that, though. I am slowly losing my mind.

Probably reading too many Bacarty posts today.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I haven't seen these new ones lol

I stopped around when they had team captains of each conference 

I watched some clips on youtube. They brought back a pseudo version of fastest man competition after years of not having it, which was cool. Parsons was in it and is stupidly fast for a man that size. Good Lord. The catch competition is now kinda like a poor man's football version of the dunk contest, not that entertaining after seeing it once. The QB accuracy thing is fun to watch though, not as good as the old-school QB challenge was but again it's the closest thing we've had to it in a while so I'll watch that at least. Naturally, Russell Wilson won it last year.  

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

His availability gives you something Tua doesn't.

They may have a gaping hole at QB and are looking for someone to serviceably play the position.  Taking it to the next level is a luxury that may not be available.  If Rodgers is not available/retired, Jimmy G belongs on the short list.

If I were a Jets fan, I would be disappointed if the move at QB was to sign Jimmy G and that's it.  Carr should be their target.  

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

He has been to 2 conference title games and 1 Super Bowl.

Of the potentially available QB's, only Brady and Rodgers have been to more.

Mark Sanchez went to 2 title games. Don't really think it means much when you look at it in the right context.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I watched some clips on youtube. They brought back a pseudo version of fastest man competition after years of not having it, which was cool. Parsons was in it and is stupidly fast for a man that size. Good Lord. The catch competition is now kinda like a poor man's football version of the dunk contest, not that entertaining after seeing it once. The QB accuracy thing is fun to watch though, not as good as the old-school QB challenge was but again it's the closest thing we've had to it in a while so I'll watch that at least. Naturally, Russell Wilson won it last year.  

In that case I may just watch youtube clips of it lol

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Payton is a turd, and he's only going to take a job where he has control over personnel.  His ego wouldn't mesh with Jerry and Stephen Jones making all the decisions.

I think he's waiting to see if the Chargers lose; if JAX beats them I could see Staley getting fired.  I've heard he wants to be in LA

Maybe but Jerry has shared that with Parcells before too and it's a very good situation for him in terms of talent.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

If I were a Jets fan, I would be disappointed if the move at QB was to sign Jimmy G and that's it.  Carr should be their target.  

Of course Jimmy G is a disappointment.  He's not good enough.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Mark Sanchez went to 2 title games. Don't really think it means much when you look at it in the right context.

Not pumping up Jimmy G, but if it is him or Carr, I would look at the resume.