Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d say hurts yards per attempt is significantly higher. It’s 8 yards per attempt. Jones is down at 6.8. It’s significant cause i think jones is using a lot more check downs and short-intermediate passes. Whereas before the shoulder injury hurts and the eagles threw the ball down the field at a higher percentage than the giants. Why jones % is as high as it is. 

Yes Hurts was better, no question. But to dismiss Jones as trash is foolish. He had a good year, and less than half the supporting cast Hurts had

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Hurts could go 14-1 as a starter, make the Pro-Bowl, make 2nd team All-Pro, win the division, get a 1st round bye and then maybe people would stop hating on him…….oh wait. 👀

Oh? Show me where I’m hating on Hurts? Hurts had a great year, and Jones had a pretty good year. 

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Hurts crushes him in TDs, but jones has better completion percentage, less INTs, and very comparable rushing and passing yardage numbers. 

Hurts has 500 yards more passing in one less game and 8 more passing TDs.  I don't think those are comparable.  There's a lot that can be said for the talent discrepancy at receiver.  

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Confirms what I saw,  and also that jsb is clueless. 

Here are the sacks.

(164) Cam Jordan Record-Setting Sacks vs Eagles | New Orleans Saints - YouTube

One sack was when Jordan was intentionally left unblocked.

Another sack was on a bad exchange between Seumalo and Driscoll on a stunt.

There was one where he got overpowered, but Jordan has been doing that to DEs for years.

Notice that he was left on an island against one of the most dominant DEs in the league. That says something about how the team feels about him. 

 

Funny, people were downplaying Mahomes as MVP earlier in December, yet he finished with….1500 more passing yards than Hurts. I guess it’s a one way street.

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Funny, people were downplaying Mahomes as MVP earlier in December, yet he finished with….1500 more passing yards than Hurts. I guess it’s a one way street.

People thought Hurts would catch up and pass Mahomes. Still an accomplishment to even be in the discussions with that alien

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Yes Hurts was better, no question. But to dismiss Jones as trash is foolish. He had a good year, and less than half the supporting cast Hurts had

I think he’s a solid starting Qb. Which is a lot for me to say cause i didn’t like him coming out. I thought he was a poor man’s Eli manning but with more ability to run. Daboll deserved a ton of credit for getting him to cut back on his turnovers, play within himself and to his strengths. The Giants try to do short/intermediate pass game and him running because they don’t have the talent necessary around him to have success with big plays down the field. Big plays. Jones seems to get himself into more trouble with fumbling when they try to throw the ball deep down the field. Because he tends to hold onto it for a little too long, and then has some traits where he gets careless with the ball. He’s gotten better over the years with his fumbling issue.

But the Giants have done a really good job making sure he either just takes off immediately or he gets the ball out quick so he doesn’t have that problem when the pass rush gets to him. If he has to hold onto that ball in this game and the eagles don’t allow him just to throw pitch and catch the short/intermediate passes there’s a good chance he as a fumble or two in this game. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Funny, people were downplaying Mahomes as MVP earlier in December, yet he finished with….1500 more passing yards than Hurts. I guess it’s a one way street.

Who was downplaying Mahomes as MVP?  He's been (at the very least) mentioned as one of the top 2-3 candidates for MVP  in almost every conversation/topic I've seen on the subject. 

 

26 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Costco is crap and still better than Pizza Hut. Doing that in Philly is like getting Olive Garden in Sicily

Nick has spent the better part of his career in flyover states and out west. Never had the best of pickings there but no excuse not to hit up Angelo's or Pizzata, especially for pizza hut 🤢

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Who was downplaying Mahomes as MVP?  He's been (at the very least) mentioned as one of the top 2-3 candidates for MVP  in almost every conversation/topic I've seen on the subject. 

 

Take a wander into the Hurts thread from early December 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think he’s a solid starting Qb. Which is a lot for me to say cause i didn’t like him coming out. I thought he was a poor man’s Eli manning but with more ability to run. Daboll deserved a ton of credit for getting him to cut back on his turnovers, play within himself and to his strengths. The Giants try to do short/intermediate pass game and him running because they don’t have the talent necessary around him to have success with big plays down the field. Big plays. Jones seems to get himself into more trouble with fumbling when they try to throw the ball deep down the field. Because he tends to hold onto it for a little too long, and then has some traits where he gets careless with the ball. He’s gotten better over the years with his fumbling issue.

But the Giants have done a really good job making sure he either just takes off immediately or he gets the ball out quick so he doesn’t have that problem when the pass rush gets to him. If he has to hold onto that ball in this game and the eagles don’t allow him just to throw pitch and catch the short/intermediate passes there’s a good chance he as a fumble or two in this game. 

Yep, agreed. Jones isn’t the human trash bin he used to be. And his last two games he’s put up:

19/24 177 yds 2TDs, with 11 rushes for 91 yds and 2 TDs

24/35 301 yds, 2 TDs, 17 rushes for 78 yds

Those are pretty Hurts-esque stat lines. 

 

25 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Hurts crushes him in TDs, but jones has better completion percentage, less INTs, and very comparable rushing and passing yardage numbers. 

Jones has less interceptions with more passing attempts.

Daniel Jones needs to get a cleanup. His neck hair that is a bridge to his back hair is distracting. 

Yikes. Any tanking that doesn’t have little Caesar’s last is a bad ranking. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Daniel Jones needs to get a cleanup. His neck hair that is a bridge to his back hair is distracting. 

Some of us are into that. 

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Some of us are into that. 

👀

18 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Funny, people were downplaying Mahomes as MVP earlier in December, yet he finished with….1500 more passing yards than Hurts. I guess it’s a one way street.

I thought the MVP race was super close before hurts hurt his shoulder. I thought hurts was slightly in the lead just because the Eagles had one loss and they were playing as well as they were. But Patrick Mahomes’s number are absolutely insane, especially when you consider he lost Tyreek Hill in the off-season. And they replaced them with juju Smith-Schuster who’s a good wide receiver, but he’s not Tyreek Hill. Frankly, when you look at the chiefs, wide receivers (kelce is tight end just talking about WR position) juju is the only reliable wide receiver they have. Toney is always hurt and barley played. Hardman is hurt. MVS is super inconsistent even when he was with rodgers in Gb. 

this isn’t a slight to hurts. Because if he didn’t get hurt, I still think he would’ve won as long as he didn’t implode in Dallas game. I think he probably finishes second after not playing for two weeks and then week 18 the eagles were just trying to get through the game. But go look at the chiefs offense versus the Eagles offense. Take the two quarterbacks out of this. Just look at the other 10 starters. I would argue only two definitive players where you would take a chiefs starter over the Eagles starter (thuney and Travis kelce— kelce vs. creed imo is a push). So basically 8 out of 10 the eagles have equal or better starter than the chiefs. Add on i don’t think the chiefs run game is nearly as reliable as the eagles. so mahomes gets more chances to throw for bigger numbers. But also if he’s not great or even good, i don’t see their running game and defense saving them as often. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yikes. Any tanking that doesn’t have little Caesar’s last is a bad ranking. 

I find papa johns to be awful. At least LC had that bacon wrapped monstrosity not long ago. 
 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

I find papa johns to be awful. At least LC had that bacon wrapped monstrosity not long ago. 
 

I like Papa John’s the best!

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I thought the MVP race was super close before hurts hurt his shoulder. I thought hurts was slightly in the lead just because the Eagles had one loss and they were playing as well as they were. But Patrick Mahomes’s number is this you’re absolutely insane, especially when you consider he lost Tyreek Hill in the off-season. And they replaced them with juju Smith-Schuster who’s a good wide receiver, but he’s not Tyreek Hill. Frankly, when you look at the chiefs, wide receivers (kelce is tight end just talking about WR position) juju is the only reliable wife receiver they have. Toney is always hurt and barley played. Hardman is hurt. MVS is super inconsistent even when he was with rodgers in Gb. 

this isn’t a slight to hurts. Because if he didn’t get hurt, I still think he would’ve won as long as he didn’t implode in Dallas game. I think he probably finishes second after not playing for two weeks and then week 18 the eagles were just trying to get through the game. But go look at the chiefs offense versus the Eagles offense. Take the two quarterbacks out of this. Just look at the other 10 starters. I would argue two is only two definitive players were you would take a chiefs starter over the Eagles starter (thuney and Travis kelce— kelce vs. creed imo is a push). So basically 8 out of 10 the eagles have equal or better starter than the chiefs. Add on i don’t think the chiefs run game is nearly as reliable as the eagles. so mahomes gets more chances to throw for bigger numbers. But also if he’s not great or even good, i don’t see their running game and defense saving them too often. 

If you go into the analytics, the Chiefs offense this year was just insane. And that was after they lost Hill. It’s crazy the year Mahomes put up.

If we're just talking stuffed crust pizza, then Pizza Hut is definitely better than Papa John's.

 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yikes. Any tanking that doesn’t have little Caesar’s last is a bad ranking. 

I’d go 

1. Dominos

2. Papa johns

3. pizza hut

4. Little Caesar’s 

tbh i think hungry howie’s which is a pretty big chain is better than all 4 

25 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

 That’s JSB level math.

Or is it TorontoEagle-level qb analysis?

Also nice trolling coordination by HazeltonEagle and TorontoEagle. Where's 4for4 to complete the party? Oh, wait...

Just now, 315Eagles said:

If we're just talking stuffed crust pizza, then Pizza Hut is definitely better than Papa John's.

 

It’s been awhile since I tried their stuffed crust, when it barely had any cheese in it at all. Papa John’s loads that mug up. 

Just now, 315Eagles said:

If we're just talking stuffed crust pizza, then Pizza Hut is definitely better than Papa John's.

 

Pizza Hut stuffed crust is the food of Gods. I’m amazed we mortals were able to even try it.

 

(Of course, real pizza is far better than the chains, but man…that stuffed crust is next level)