2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol Jets

Hackett told the Jets he was bringing Aaron Rodgers with him.  That old trick gets him hired.

23 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think it was EPA per the play or something. I thought it was a weird stat too because the only thing I remember is one big rush play with Fields. 

Well we don't have to worry about that this week, Jones will just fall down on his own

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think the eagles win but that 48 point game the giants also didn’t have Leonard Williams, adoree jackson and McKinney playing either. As long as we don’t turn the ball over and can blitz pick up better than they have they should be able to move the ball and win this game. 

Yep. That gets glossed over a ton. 

12 minutes ago, RLC said:

Boston Scott & Miles Sanders are FA. This is a deep RB class. We're going to draft one in the mid-rounds. Hope it's someone with size instead of speed, but Howie is going to pick speed.

We’d have to have middle round picks first. 

8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Why the face palm???

Sanders had 20 catches for 78 yards this year, that's 3.9 yards/ catch.

That's miserable.

He just has zero feel for the passing game and what to do with the ball when he actually catches it.

After a solid rookie season catching the ball he's regressed every year.

3.9 yards / catch is gross.

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

 

Esipecially ones that are as useless as Sanders is as a receiver 

 

How do you go from catching 50 balls for over 500 yards your rookie season to what his receiving stats are now?

Is it the system/amount of targets or is it him? 
 

I think it has much more to do with the system/amount of targets/only so many passes to go around vs Miles Sanders "not knowing how to catch.” 
 

 

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol Jets

The sad thing is LaFleur seemed to do a decent job at scheming open players. Talk about a massive step down. 

15 minutes ago, RLC said:

Boston Scott & Miles Sanders are FA. This is a deep RB class. We're going to draft one in the mid-rounds. Hope it's someone with size instead of speed, but Howie is going to pick speed.

Sermon is likely your Boston scott replacement. He’s been on the roster all year. The eagles at any time could’ve cut him and tried to get him on PS or moved on when needing a roster spot. He hasn’t had snaps but they obviously are keeping him on the roster for a reason. I think they know Scott is gone this offseason and sermon by not having touches isn’t getting wear on the tire as well as learning the playbook to be the backup with gainwell next year. 

The more interesting question to me is, are they going to pay Sanders or move on. Frankly, with all the free agents they have and having to give hurts an extension, you cannot pay everyone. You’re gonna have to make some tough decisions. I feel like this one you would like to sign him because he is talented but at the same time it is a position the eagles likely don’t want to pay big money. I think the Eagles feel they could probably go into the draft and find somebody they really like and be paying them less for the next 4 years which helps bring back other guys at highly valued positions. 

Just now, Ace Nova said:

How do you go from catching 50 balls for over 500 yards your rookie season to what his receiving stats are now?

Is it the system/amount of targets or is it him? 
 

I think it has much more to do with the system/amount of targets/only so many passes to go around vs Miles Sanders "not knowing how to catch.” 
 

 

I'm not looking at targets and receptions I'm looking at yards/

3.9 yards/ catch on 20 catches is really bad.

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Why the face palm???

Sanders had 20 catches for 78 yards this year, that's 3.8 yards/ catch.

That's miserable.

He just has zero feel for the passing game and what to do with the ball when he actually catches it.

After a solid rookie season catching the ball he's regressed every year.

3.8 yards / catch is gross.

What's more likely, that after posting 50 catches for 500 yds as a rookie, he magically forgot how to catch a football out of the backfield

OR

that the offensive coordinator, and offensive scheme as a whole, changed and deprioritized throwing the ball to the RBs or creating space for them?

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Sermon is likely your Boston scott replacement. He’s been on the roster all year. The eagles at any time could’ve cut him and tried to get him on PS or moved on when needing a roster spot. He hasn’t had snaps but they obviously are keeping him on the roster for a reason. I think they know Scott is gone this offseason and sermon by not having touches isn’t getting wear on the tire as well as learning the playbook to be the backup with gainwell next year. 

The more interesting question to me is, are they going to pay Sanders or move on. Frankly, with all the free agents they have it having to give hurts an extension, you cannot pay everyone. You’re gonna have to make some tough decisions. I feel like this one you would like to sign him because he is talented but at the same time it is a position the eagles likely don’t want to pay big money. I think the Eagles feel they could probably go into the draft and find somebody they really like and be paying them less for the next 4 years which helps bring back other guys at highly valued positions. 

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27 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I’ve been a proponent of bringing him back.  Some fans seem to forget the reason we drafted him in the 2nd round.  He’s a legitimate #1 RB, something we haven’t had since LeSean McCoy. 
 

That said, the free agent RB class seems to be competitive, so it might not be as "expensive” as some think.  (To bring him back). 

 

It depends on the price.  They have so many guys on defense they have to try to bring back that they might not have room to pay a RB a second contract. I'd like to have him back but there are more important priorities of guys to being back.  If they let him walk though they would need to spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a RB for sure though. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

What's more likely, that after posting 50 catches for 500 yds as a rookie, he magically forgot how to catch a football out of the backfield

OR

that the offensive coordinator, and offensive scheme as a whole, changed and deprioritized throwing the ball to the RBs?

It's kind of both. He had some brutal drops in 2020 and didn't look like the same receiving threat at all. Once Sirianni came in he has totally ignored that aspect of the passing game. I'd say coaching is the bigger change though. 

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I'm not looking at targets and receptions I'm looking at yards/

3.9 yards/ catch on 20 catches is really bad.

Right.  It’s also a very small sample size.  When Sanders was featured in the passing game, as he was his rookie season, he was solid.  But he hasn’t been featured in the passing game since then. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

"With the 63rd pick in the 2023 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select ..."

 

I’m good with this. That kid is really good. Plus you get him cheap for 4 years. I also like Sean tucker of Syracuse. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Right.  It’s also a very small sample size.  When Sanders was featured in the passing game, as he was his rookie season, he was solid.  But he hasn’t been featured in the passing game since then. 

He was flat out awful in his 2nd year. Awful. And he had nearly the same amount of targets his rookie year. In the two years after that, he’s been underwhelming. 

I really like Sanders but I hope Howie sticks with the philosophy of not giving big contracts to RBs. Their shelf life doesn't justify big contracts IMO

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Right.  It’s also a very small sample size.  When Sanders was featured in the passing game, as he was his rookie season, he was solid.  But he hasn’t been featured in the passing game since then. 

IMO, Sanders is actually better at downfield routes than he is at the conventional RB screen to the flat or the short middle check down.  If I was Steichen I'd be running him on wheel routes against a LB 

 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

What's more likely, that after posting 50 catches for 500 yds as a rookie, he magically forgot how to catch a football out of the backfield

OR

that the offensive coordinator, and offensive scheme as a whole, changed and deprioritized throwing the ball to the RBs?

Never said he forgot how to catch the ball. He caught 20 of 26 targets this year.

I'm saying he's useless once he catches the ball.

3.9 yards/ catch is pretty bad, and not something I'd look at and say, hey we need to get that dude the ball more in the passing game.

He seems to me to have a poor feel of what to do after he catches the ball, alot if his car he's are short throws but he's done little to nothing with those and has shown some pretty poor vision and ability to pick up yac.

Part of that could be the way the coaches are using him in the passing game and yet I haven't seen him run any routes down the field where he's created any separation or gotten loose the few times he does run a wheel route he hasn't gotten open.

I just think what he offers as a receiver isnt a point one would use to justify re- signing him,if anything it would be a reason to justify not re-signing him.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I'm glad this is finally done so I can get back to work.

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Right.  It’s also a very small sample size.  When Sanders was featured in the passing game, as he was his rookie season, he was solid.  But he hasn’t been featured in the passing game since then. 

Maybe if he was a better receiver he would be featured more in the passing game no?

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I'm glad this is finally done so I can get back to work.

Complete game changer for Saturday

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m good with this. That kid is really good. Plus you get him cheap for 4 years. I also like Sean tucker of Syracuse. 

I have a hard time seeing us spend a second round pick on an RB considering all the potential holes on this roster. Plus, we should just sign the last good FA RB remaining for a cheapish deal and spend the premium pick on a premium position. 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

IMO, Sanders is actually better at downfield routes than he is at the conventional RB screen to the flat or the short middle check down.  If I was Steichen I'd be running him on wheel routes against a LB 

I agree, he seems pretty lost catching the ball with his back to the defense then turning and running, it's like he loses his feel for where he is on the field.

Where as get him matched up on a deep wheel against a LB and he seems to be better though as said I can't remember the last time he actually got open vs a LB down field.