5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

His team is going to the NFCCG though

Andy Reid and Zac Taylor are also in the AFCCG.  Should they not also then be a nominee based on that criteria ??

Edited to add : And everything I have read says that the awards are voted on between the end of the regular season, and the playoffs.  

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

His team is going to the NFCCG though

I think it’s a regular season award, like the others

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I am expecting

@LeanMeanGM

Eagles running backs combine for 200+ rushing yards.

The most rushing yards the 49ers have given up in one game all season is 168. 

So going for over 200 is fine with me. 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Who is? Guessing Daboll is one. Probably O’Connell 

 

1 hour ago, KINGnabb said:

Nick and Former Eagles Coaches Doug and Sean are all Coach of the year finalist:

 

 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

So are Andy Reid and Zac Taylor.  Should they not also then be a nominee based on that criteria ??

I was talking about Nick. Don't care about them

Just now, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think it’s a regular season award, like the others

That still doesn't make sense why he was excluded

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I was talking about Nick. Don't care about them

But you said he was going to the NFCCG.  If that is part of the criteria, why would that not apply to all coaches in the conference championship games.

Regardless, as I edited and added to my last, everything I can find says the awards are voted on between the end of the regular season and the start of the playoffs.

5 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think it’s a regular season award, like the others

Yes.  Everything I can find on google says the vote is cast before the playoff games start.

Nick is very clearly the coach of the year, as was Doug in 2017. That’s why I always tell people to stop caring about who wins these awards. They’re subjective. And doesn’t supersede objective truth.

The argument against Sirianni is the Eagles have the most talented roster. 
 

Compare to the Giants, it’s not close. Dabol did an amazing job.

Jags, same thing, Pederson was fantastic at turning T Law around.

SF has an amazing roster too, but with a third string rookie QB he kept the train rolling. 
 

Sirianni unfortunately failed with his backup, going 0-2 (and the coaching in those two losses was bad, as well as the Bears game which led to Hurts injury).

 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Nick is very clearly the coach of the year, as was Doug in 2017. That’s why I always tell people to stop caring about who wins these awards. They’re subjective. And doesn’t supersede objective truth.

Give me a run down of why he is the coach of the year, specifically over Brian Daboll, Kyle Shanahan and Doug Pederson.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

But you said he was going to the NFCCG.  If that is part of the criteria, why would that not apply to all coaches in the conference championship games.

Regardless, as I edited and added to my last, everything I can find says the awards are voted on between the end of the regular season and the start of the playoffs.

Yes.  Everything I can find on google says the vote is cast before the playoff games start.

I didn't say that was the criteria

Just now, downundermike said:

Give me a run down of why he is the coach of the year, specifically over Brian Daboll, Kyle Shanahan and Doug Pederson.

Because I said he is. 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

That still doesn't make sense why he was excluded

Doug took the team with back-to-back first overall picks and won his division, first time in history that’s happened. 6 game improvement overall, best in the NFL.

Brian Daboll increased his team’s win total by 5 year-to-year, equalling Sirianni’s. But I think the argument for Daboll could be that his GM didn’t make dramatic roster improvements to do so. Sirianni’s recognition is as much Howie’s.

And Shanahan… won an easy division with a QB carousel I suppose is his argument? Don’t think he wins it, but his team was close to #1 seed despite not having an MVP candidate at QB. That’s something

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I didn't say that was the criteria

So if that is not the criteria, why should Nick be in the finalists ??

And in case you missed it, the voting takes place before the playoffs.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Because I said he is. 

Compelling argument.  I will take that as you can not give me a good reason.

3 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

And Shanahan… won an easy division with a QB carousel I suppose is his argument? Don’t think he wins it, but his team was close to #1 seed despite not having an MVP candidate at QB. That’s something

10 straight wins to close the season, 6 of them with the 3rd string QB who was the last pick in the draft.  Seems like a pretty reasonable argument to me.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

So if that is not the criteria, why should Nick be in the finalists ??

And in case you missed it, the voting takes place before the playoffs.

Compelling argument.  I will take that as you can not give me a good reason.

He coached the best team in the NFL with the best record all season. They finished with more wins above their preseason over/under of all the teams and their coaches in the running. They had the best record in the NFL against playoff caliber teams.

The guy who coached the best team is the best coach. This isn’t nuclear physics.

But you knew all these facts, yet you continue to always try to play devil’s advocate just for the hell of it.

Does anyone actually doubt that Daboll is going to win the award with the New York media hype behind him? Pederson took the worst team in the league to nine wins and a division title, the latter of which is not true for Daboll I should add, but he coaches in the Siberia of the NFL so no one will care.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So if that is not the criteria, why should Nick be in the finalists ??

And in case you missed it, the voting takes place before the playoffs.

Compelling argument.  I will take that as you can not give me a good reason.

Record, improved his team, had a great year

Do I care if you disagree? No.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Because I said he is. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Give me a run down of why he is the coach of the year, specifically over Brian Daboll, Kyle Shanahan and Doug Pederson.

(Only counting regular season)

- Best record in the NFL - 14-3

- Won the NFC East Division 

- Top seed in the NFC

- Helped in the development of Jalen Hurts.  Hurts went from being a "jury is still out” prospect (for a lot of fans)  to an MVP candidate this year.

- Helped cater the offense to this team’s strengths.  Went from primarily a run offense last year to a well balanced attack. (Very difficult to defend against.)

- Game planning has been among the best in the NFL this season

- Top two WR’s had historically good years - first time in Philadelphia history that both #1 and #2 receivers broke both the yardage records and catch records for WR’s. (Sirianni specializes in WR development)

- Has been able to successfully delegate defensive responsibilities to his coordinators, making the Eagles defense among the best in the NFL 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

He coached the best team in the NFL with the best record all season. They finished with more wins above their preseason over/under of all the teams and their coaches in the running. They had the best record in the NFL against playoff caliber teams.

The guy who coached the best team is the best coach. This isn’t nuclear physics.

But you knew all these facts, yet you continue to always try to play devil’s advocate just for the hell of it.

Did any of those other teams do it with a QB who was in the MVP discussion ??

Doug gets in for taking a dumpster fire of a team to a division title, no argument can me made against his candicacy.

Daboll took a bad Giants team, got them to the playoffs ( added 5 wins to his previous year same as the Eagles and a playoff appearance )

Shanahan won 10 straight regular season games to close the season, with a 3rd string QB who was the last pick in the draft

 

You can say Nick should have been in the field, but his team had an MVP candidate at QB and added far more talent to the roster than these other teams.

 

And Kansas City finished tied for the best record in a much stronger AFC, so your argument for Nick should also apply to Andy.

If anybody should feel snubbed in coach of the year talks, it’s Pete Carroll. Many thought Seattle would own the number one pick going into the year and he got them into the playoffs. Truly remarkable job he did this year

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Did any of those other teams do it with a QB who was in the MVP discussion ??

Doug gets in for taking a dumpster fire of a team to a division title, no argument can me made against his candicacy.

Daboll took a bad Giants team, got them to the playoffs ( added 5 wins to his previous year same as the Eagles and a playoff appearance )

Shanahan won 10 straight regular season games to close the season, with a 3rd string QB who was the last pick in the draft

 

You can say Nick should have been in the field, but his team had an MVP candidate at QB and added far more talent to the roster than these other teams.

 

And Kansas City finished tied for the best record in a much stronger AFC, so your argument for Nick should also apply to Andy.

There’s a large amount of homerism in here. There’s no point in arguing with people who’s argument boils down to "He’s the Eagles coach so he’s the bestest!” 

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Record, improved his team, had a great year

Do I care if you disagree? No.

Chiefs had the same record, and also improved his team ( +2 wins ) in a stronger conference.  So Andy should also be in the field then.

Looking back through the coach of the year winners, it is not about who wins the most games.

2021 - Mike Vrabel

2020 - Kevin Stefanski

2019 - John Harbaugh ( best record in the NFL )

2018 - Matt Nagy

2017 - Sean McVay

2016 - Jason Garrett

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Did any of those other teams do it with a QB who was in the MVP discussion ??

Doug gets in for taking a dumpster fire of a team to a division title, no argument can me made against his candicacy.

Daboll took a bad Giants team, got them to the playoffs ( added 5 wins to his previous year same as the Eagles and a playoff appearance )

Shanahan won 10 straight regular season games to close the season, with a 3rd string QB who was the last pick in the draft

 

You can say Nick should have been in the field, but his team had an MVP candidate at QB and added far more talent to the roster than these other teams.

 

And Kansas City finished tied for the best record in a much stronger AFC, so your argument for Nick should also apply to Andy.

Your contrarian shtick is tired, dude. And I think you're addicted to arguing. Relax.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Chiefs had the same record, and also improved his team ( +2 wins ) in a stronger conference.  So Andy should also be in the field then.

Looking back through the coach of the year winners, it is not about who wins the most games.

2021 - Mike Vrabel

2020 - Kevin Stefanski

2019 - John Harbaugh ( best record in the NFL )

2018 - Matt Nagy

2017 - Sean McVay

2016 - Jason Garrett

Based on that list, we should be glad Sirianni didn’t win it. All those coaches have something in common