Last I am going to say about coach of the year.  The last 10 coaches of the year have a combined 3-10 record in the playoffs, 8 of them are one and done, and only 1 has advanced past the divisional round.  

 

42 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Your contrarian shtick is tired, dude. And I think you're addicted to arguing. Relax.

If we all just agreed, what would be discussing? 

39 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

That isn’t how they vote. They vote for the coach who did the best job, not the coach who coaches the best team. Coaches with 7-9 records have won the award before. Belichick has maybe 2 of them his entire godlike career.

And Philly didn’t beat their preseason win/loss projection by as many as Jax did, people were putting Philly in the NFCCG in preseason. There were people saying Jacksonville would battle Houston for #1 overall

The bolded simply isn't true. When I placed my preseason bets the week before the season, the Eagles over/under was at 9.5. They won 14 games. The Jaguars line was 6.5. They won 9 games. The Eagles definitely surpassed the line by a larger margin.

Siri I think lost consideration in the eyes of voters when he went 0-2 without Hurts. 

I should also point out that the over/under on the Giants was 7.5. Daboll got them to 9 wins. 9.5 if you count the tie against Washington. They surpassed the line by two games. Big whoop. But he coaches in New York so he deserves it.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

If we all just agreed, what would be discussing? 

Eagles going to the NFCCG

Brown and Smith being an awesome duo on offense

Reddick and Sweat having great years

Etc.

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Siri I think lost consideration in the eyes of voters when he went 0-2 without Hurts. 

Was just thinking about this.

Shanahan went 6-0 with the 3rd string QB.

 

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Eagles going to the NFCCG

Brown and Smith being an awesome duo on offense

Reddick and Sweat having great years

Etc.

Those are all facts. What’s to discuss?

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Was just thinking about this.

Shanahan went 6-0 with the 3rd string QB.

 

That’s what I’ve been saying for the last few pages lol 

32 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles are 2022 Super Bowl Winners because I said so

I’m ok with that. 

Shanahan is the coach of the year, but I’d put Sirianni in over Daboll. You can probably make a case for putting Carroll in over Doug or Daboll. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Those are all facts. What’s to discuss?

That’s what I’ve been saying for the last few pages lol 

You only discuss topics that you disagree with? Odd.

42 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I disagree. I think KS’s run with Purdy is made even more impressive because of NS’s struggles with Minshew. But it’s a close race. I think it’s between Daboll and Dougie ultimately

Yeah but he had struggles with lance and Jimmy G. Lost to the bears with lance (granted monsoon). Combined 7-4. Jimmy G as the starter and lost to atlanta and Denver. The niners easily should’ve been better before purdy took over considering Denver was awful this year and i don’t think atlanta was that great either. They were averaging 23.9 points in the 10 starts and if you include week 2 where he basically played the whole game after lance got hurt 4 plays in were averaging ppg. Without the defensive tds it’s 22ppg. We say Say minshew struggled but minshew but put up 27 in Dallas. Which is more than purdy’s 19 at home. Saints held the niners to 13 with Jimmy G. Eagles had 10. Really the difference was niners defense pitched a shutout vs. the saints. Cause with Jimmy G shanahan averaged 23.9 (i included defensive tds so it’s likely less by the offense it’s 22 without defensive tds). With minshew eagles averaged 18.5 ppg (took sweat’s td away). So 3.5 point difference with imo a much better Qb in Jimmy g. To me it’s about the entire year. Purdy has been fantastic but i don’t think shanahan did all that great of a job with his offense prior to purdy with Jimmy g and lance. Purdy played much better than minshew for those 6 games but I’d argue Lance/Jimmy G weren’t greatly better as they averaged on offense 22 ppg (excluded defensive tds) from week 1 to saints game.   

i think getting hurts at an mvp level from where he was in 2021 is more impressive. Frankly hurts doesn’t get hurt chance he is 14-1 with nothing to play for week 17 and 18. 

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Last I am going to say about coach of the year.  The last 10 coaches of the year have a combined 3-10 record in the playoffs, 8 of them are one and done, and only 1 has advanced past the divisional round.  

 

So are you saying it’s a good thing Sirianni didn’t win it? 👀

3 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Shanahan is the coach of the year, but I’d put Sirianni in over Daboll. You can probably make a case for putting Carroll in over Doug or Daboll. 

Doug took the worst team in the NFL last year, won a division title and a playoff game ( yes, I know the last point is not part of the award )

Doug also had to take the worst team in the NFL and recover from the Urban Meyer disaster, and then recovered from a 3-7 start to win 6 of 7 and the division.

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Was just thinking about this.

Shanahan went 6-0 with the 3rd string QB.

 

Sirianni went 14-1 with a QB you thought should have been benched for Carson Strong.  

10 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Siri I think lost consideration in the eyes of voters when he went 0-2 without Hurts. 

 

Yeah but did you see how Hurts looked on the sidelines in those games when the camera would show him? As previously discussed here those losses are on Hurts just as much as anyone else. 

14 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Get the best player available at a reasonable position (AKA not RB and not something we obviously cannot use at all).

All things being equal, I want young explosive talent on the right side of the OL so we can stop holding our collective breath every time Lane Johnson grimaces.  That is THE single biggest threat to the functionality and winning ways of this team right now and for next year.

Beyond that, sure, I want an edge rusher.  Who doesn't?  But Maddox can't be relied on and Slay and Bradberry are old with between 1-3 combined years left in Eagles green between the 2 of them.  So means we pretty much need to add a young CB to the mix.

I know I'm being premature and unfair and all that...but we are all entitled to our premature opinions.  And I don't think Davis is going to pan out.  I don't think the staff is going to be comfortable assuming he can step into a bigger role next year.  I think they are going to want at least 2 DTs on the depth chart ahead of him.  So that thrusts DT into the picture for the draft too.

 

That's a pretty early view to adopt. I think him, Milton, and a 2023 draft pick are the future.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So are you saying it’s a good thing Sirianni didn’t win it? 👀

Yes.  The coach of the year winner does not have a lot of playoff success.  You generally win the award from getting more out of less, and the coaches in the Super Bowl generally have the best rosters making their job easier.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Sirianni went 14-1 with a QB you thought should have been benched for Carson Strong.  

OMG, if you think that was anything more than a joke, then the jokes clearly on you.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Yes.  The coach of the year winner does not have a lot of playoff success.  You generally win the award from getting more out of less, and the coaches in the Super Bowl generally have the best rosters making their job easier.

Agreed. My pick would have been Doug, not Nick. To take that team after the last two years and win the division was a monumental accomplishment. Daboll would have been 2nd for me.

11 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Siri I think lost consideration in the eyes of voters when he went 0-2 without Hurts. 

Maybe if we go 16-1 he gets it, but I dont think that was it.

I think he was a clear early favorite, starting out undefeated and for the Hurts of '23 being an entire tier above '22 Hurts.

But then the Giants and Jags kept winning, and I think they stole his thunder a little bit.  And people probably realize just how talented our roster is.  

Just now, downundermike said:

OMG, if you think that was anything more than a joke, then the jokes clearly on you.

It’s only a joke now because it never happened.  But I’m pretty sure you would have been doing back flips if it did. 

2 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Agreed. My pick would have been Doug, not Nick. To take that team after the last two years and win the division was a monumental accomplishment. Daboll would have been 2nd for me.

Yep, I would rank them Doug, Daboll, Shanahan, Carrol and then Siriani.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Nick is very clearly the coach of the year, as was Doug in 2017. That’s why I always tell people to stop caring about who wins these awards. They’re subjective. And doesn’t supersede objective truth.

I agree it's entirely subjective.  I think every voter probably has their own criteria and bias. The argument against Sirianni and McDermott is that they have super talented rosters vs. what Daboll, Doug and probably Shanahan have.  The argument against Shanahan is that his team is successful because of their defense which isn't really about him.  Both Doug and Daboll had to do more to make their teams into playoff teams.  My guess is it is between Daboll and McDermott.  Daboll because of NY bias.  McDermott because of the Hamlin injury.  

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

It’s only a joke now because it never happened.  But I’m pretty sure you would have been doing back flips if it did. 

He was never going to be more than Ian Book, a 3rd stringer.  The fact that anyone took it seriously and argued about it is comedy gold.