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Jalen Hurts discussion (Part 2) - see new topic for contract extension

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Boooo, more reason to hate Payton.

 

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1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Boooo, more reason to hate Payton.

 

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Good. Love to see him punt after constant three and outs. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Good. Love to see him punt after constant three and outs. 

Right. 4th & 7, turnover on downs.  :lol:

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Right. 4th & 7, turnover on downs.  :lol:

There’s no way pretty boy Russ would ever do that anyway. He’d audible into an interception. 😂

 

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

Boooo, more reason to hate Payton.

 

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What a threat from a guy that fell off since the Super Bowl in 2009 or whenever that was.   Try it you ****.  

There is no way the Eagles would do this, and neither would I after sober thought...

but if somehow Stroud made it to #10... I would pause... for a second...

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

There is no way the Eagles would do this, and neither would I after sober thought...

but if somehow Stroud made it to #10... I would pause... for a second...

Yeah I'd pause for a second. To see if anyone behind us wanted to trade up for him 😃.

I think they trade down and get more picks

6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

The Eagles ran the ball 165 times with Jalen Hurts. The Bills ran the ball with Josh Allen 124 times. That seems like a drastic difference; however, the Eagles ran the ball with Jalen 41 times last season on quarterback sneaks. So are we really counting those as legit runs, because in reality subtracting those numbers he’s now run it about 124 times. These are the type of deceptive snaps that can trick people. Tom Brady for example has several first down QB sneaks. How many quarterbacks can you name have been injured on a QB sneak? It’s really not a common thing, but the play is highly effective for the Eagles and that’s why they keep running it. Let’s also remember that there were many games where the Eagles were up from and Jalen was taking 1-3 knees to ice the game. Those also count as runs. Jalen averaged eleven attempts a game, but between 2-3 of those attempts were  QB sneak runs and between 1-3 of them were quarterback kneels. So on an 11 run average he’s closer to 8-9 actual runs. They can get out of what with their philosophy though especially when he’s nearing the twenties even with the first down runs. They have to find a happy medium, but considering how much he touches the ball I’d hardly call him injury prone. Also if he’s in his 30s I don care if he’s just a passer at that point in his career the Eagles should be grooming a replacement regardless, because guys playing into their 40s isn’t the norm. 

Jalen Hurts - 3 games missed with injury in 2 years

Josh Allen - 0 games missed with injury 

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9 hours ago, NOTW said:

Boooo, more reason to hate Payton.

 

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I hate this guy, all those years riding on Drew Brees coat tails. I couldn't take him strutting around pre game on fox either. I hope he loses in Denver.

6 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

There is no way the Eagles would do this, and neither would I after sober thought...

but if somehow Stroud made it to #10... I would pause... for a second...

Howie will 100% ... trade that pick to someone else.

4 hours ago, CheesesteakNBeer said:

I hate this guy, all those years riding on Drew Brees coat tails. I couldn't take him strutting around pre game on fox either. I hope he loses in Denver.

He helped Brees become the QB he was in New Orleans. Brees was going nowhere with the Chargers before he joined Payton in New Orleans. Brees is on record stating it. Payton took the Saints from a bottomfeeding franchise and made them a winning franchise. I think some have forgotten how pathetic that franchise was. And he does have winning record without Brees, while having the likes of Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston and Teddy Bridgewater at QB.

Not a guarentee it works out in Denver or that they'll win a Super Bowl, but the guy is a very good HC and the odds are better he has success than failure in Denver.

Hate all you want but the fact is he's been a damn good coach.

10 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

What a threat from a guy that fell off since the Super Bowl in 2009 or whenever that was.   Try it you ****.  

Didn't see Payton complaining about it. Any actual proof other than a rumor? Seriously asking, not being sarcastic.

All I've heard is him saying they'll use it if the league doesn't ban it. If anything, it seems like he's crediting the Eagles for being so  good at it that he's looking to utilize it.

13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

There’s no way pretty boy Russ would ever do that anyway. He’d audible into an interception. 😂

Are you kidding? Russ getting the praise Hurts got for being so good at it? I can see him going along to get his rep up again.

Russ would do it in a hearbeat to help his bruised ego. He even dove head first in a game with no meaning for the Broncos and was concussed....because his heart and ability have been questioned all year. 

Besides, Payton isn't going to allow Russ to run roughshot like Hackett did. Payton already said Russ' personal coaches aren't allowed at the facilities. Payton is making it known he's in charge, not Russ.

7 hours ago, TorontoEagle said:

Jalen Hurts - 3 games missed with injury in 2 years

Josh Allen - 0 games missed with injury 

Don’t think you really want to compare injuries between Allen and Hurts! BTW, Hurts played college against the best defenses in country for 3 years at Alabama vs Allen playing at Wyoming.

Also go back 3 years, Allen missed 4 games. Don’t cherry pick years to compare.

 

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/josh-allen/9962

Hurts > Allen 

1 hour ago, Broncos72 said:

Didn't see Payton complaining about it. Any actual proof other than a rumor? Seriously asking, not being sarcastic.

All I've heard is him saying they'll use it if the league doesn't ban it. If anything, it seems like he's crediting the Eagles for being so  good at it that he's looking to utilize it.

 

From the horse's mouth.  He isn't at all being complementary of it. 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Bamabird said:

Don’t think you really want to compare injuries between Allen and Hurts! BTW, Hurts played college against the best defenses in country for 3 years at Alabama vs Allen playing at Wyoming.

Also go back 3 years, Allen missed 4 games. Don’t cherry pick years to compare.

 

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/josh-allen/9962

That was his rookie year. Since then, for the same time Hurts has been in the league, Hurts has been injured and missed more games than Allen

1 hour ago, Broncos72 said:

Are you kidding? Russ getting the praise Hurts got for being so good at it? I can see him going along to get his rep up again.

Russ would do it in a hearbeat to help his bruised ego. He even dove head first in a game with no meaning for the Broncos and was concussed....because his heart and ability have been questioned all year. 

Besides, Payton isn't going to allow Russ to run roughshot like Hackett did. Payton already said Russ' personal coaches aren't allowed at the facilities. Payton is making it known he's in charge, not Russ.

Peyton living off his past success. The Broncos are a disaster waiting to happen when these two aloof egos collide. 

24 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

That was his rookie year. Since then, for the same time Hurts has been in the league, Hurts has been injured and missed more games than Allen

Just stop!

14 hours ago, NOTW said:

Boooo, more reason to hate Payton.

 

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A few things here

First Sean Payton is overrated, washed and a ****, that’s first.

Second Russell Wilson is done and things aren’t going to magically just work out like they think they are over there, book that.

 

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