June 20, 20205 yr 38 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Followed up on this. They charged him with felony murder, not murder in the first degree. I’m confused. What felony was the cop committing before the "murder” ?
June 20, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, Kz! said: Oh yeah, destroying that eyewash station is kinda similar to attacking a cop who is attending a shooting victim. Kinda. lmao It wasn't just eyewash though. They said medical supplies.
June 20, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: It wasn't just eyewash though. They said medical supplies. I don't care.
June 20, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, Kz! said: Don't get why the police are always so hostile... He’s just thinking " damn three months from now when I pull you over for a busted tail light it’s gonna be fun”
June 20, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: I’m confused. What felony was the cop committing before the "murder” ? Discharging a firearm at a fleeing suspect.
June 20, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Discharging a firearm at a fleeing suspect. I wouldn’t consider that exactly fleeing, but I guess that fits.
June 20, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said: I wouldn’t consider that exactly fleeing, but I guess that fits. The video is not in the clearest detail, but it seems that Brooks' back is fully turned when the officer opened fire. Some may say that his possession of the taser makes him a threat, but that argument is weakened by the fact that Rolfe has backup. The most detailed description of Atlanta's use-of-force policy that I have found is described as authorized "when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm and the employee reasonably believes that the suspect's escape would create a continuing danger of serious physical harm to any person." So, again, some grey area, but the weight of the evidence does not seem to be in the officer's favor. Maybe that particular charge misses the mark, but I think there clearly some argument for abuse of power merely based on disproportionality.
June 20, 20205 yr On 6/20/2020 at 1:15 PM, EaglesRocker97 said: The video is not in the clearest detail, but it seems that Brooks' back is fully turned when the officer opened fire. Some may say that his possession o=the taser makes him a threat, but that argument is weakened by the fact that Rolfe has backup. The most detailed description of Atlanta's use-of-force policy that I have found is described as authorized "when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm and the employee reasonably believes that the suspect's escape would create a continuing danger of serious physical harm to any person." So, again, some grey area, but the weight of the evidence does not seem to be in the officer's favor. Maybe that particular charge misses the mark, but I think there clearly some argument for abuse of power merely based disproportionality. See, i disagree with you and feel the evidence supports the officer. The taser, while no longer able to shoot, I assume can still be used as a actual taser just not a gun. Most of them can be from what I’ve read. I think this ends in a hung jury. I don’t think we will find 12 people that agree one way with this.
June 20, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: See, if disagree with you and feel the evidence supports the officer. The taser, while no longer able to shoot, I assume can still be used as a actual taser just not a gun. Most of them can be from what I’ve read. I think this ends in a hung jury. I don’t think we will find 12 people that agree one way with this. That's a fair assessment. It will certainly be an interesting case to follow. I would just add that to use a taser after the cartridge has been spent, you would have to physically press the barbs into someone's skin, so it's possible to still be used as a weapon but not likely. Also, considering that Brooks was detained on a DUI charge, it's not clear that he would be a threat to others. It seems obvious to me that he was simply trying to escape the ordeal. Of course, you don't want him to get away, but he'd be pretty easily tracked down anyway. They already had his ID in addition to video evidence of his committing the initial crime and resisting arrest.
June 20, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: That's a fair assessment. It will certainly be an interesting case to follow. I would just add that to use a taser after the cartridge has been spent, you would have to physically press the barbs into someone's skin, so it's possible to still be used as a weapon but not likely. Also, considering that Brooks was detained on a DUI charge, it's not clear that he would be a threat to others. It seems obvious to me that he was simply trying to escape the ordeal. Of course, you don't want him to get away, but he'd be pretty easily tracked down anyway. They already had his ID in addition to video evidence of his committing the initial crime and resisting arrest. He was clearly a threat to any other officer attempting to stop him and now has a weapon he can use to obtain another weapon. He could have been running to regroup and attack again. Based on what we seen that seems just as plausible as he just wanted to get away.
June 20, 20205 yr Author 2 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: See, if disagree with you and feel the evidence supports the officer. The taser, while no longer able to shoot, I assume can still be used as a actual taser just not a gun. Most of them can be from what I’ve read. I think this ends in a hung jury. I don’t think we will find 12 people that agree one way with this. No he isn't going to be convicted. The Floyd cop? Yes. But no way on this one. I mean the DA who charged him is on camera two weeks prior going on and on about the dangers of tasers and how they are deadly weapons. I'm sure that will be exhibit one for the defense lol. I'm hoping after this is over another agency will give him a job if he wants it. I'm starting to think my crossing over to the fire/EMS side was the right call.
June 21, 20205 yr Author On 6/18/2020 at 6:42 AM, 20dawk4life said: Are you around Atlanta or in Maryland as it says under your avatar? No I was just talking about Medics in general. Until 6 months ago I was King Co Medic one (Seattle). Now im on Eastern Shore of Md. Came home.
June 22, 20205 yr On 6/20/2020 at 9:03 AM, EaglesRocker97 said: Discharging a firearm at a fleeing suspect. If only he still had his taser ...
June 22, 20205 yr Let's check in on Atlanta: Yeah, still going great. That white cop deserved to get run out of there by a mob for trying to *squints* assist a shooting victim.
June 22, 20205 yr On 6/20/2020 at 11:21 AM, EaglesRocker97 said: Thugs, indeed. Destroying potential projectiles and a station being used to recuperate rioters so they can come back for round 2 after multiple warnings...yep, don't care. On 6/20/2020 at 11:40 AM, Kz! said: Don't get why the police are always so hostile... I'd have hawked the biggest loogie possible on that girl blowing smoke in my face and felt 0 guilt. People defending this type of crap are scumbags. On 6/20/2020 at 1:58 PM, EaglesRocker97 said: That's a fair assessment. It will certainly be an interesting case to follow. I would just add that to use a taser after the cartridge has been spent, you would have to physically press the barbs into someone's skin, so it's possible to still be used as a weapon but not likely. Also, considering that Brooks was detained on a DUI charge, it's not clear that he would be a threat to others. It seems obvious to me that he was simply trying to escape the ordeal. Of course, you don't want him to get away, but he'd be pretty easily tracked down anyway. They already had his ID in addition to video evidence of his committing the initial crime and resisting arrest. Yeah, I mean who ever gets attacked with (*cough*knives*cough*pipes*cough*bricks) non-projectile weapons.
June 22, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, brkmsn said: If only he still had his taser ... Much better to kill him than let him run away and have to chase him.
June 22, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: Much better to kill him than let him run away and have to chase him. Even more better to not break the law and have to deal with cops.
June 22, 20205 yr Author 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: Much better to kill him than let him run away and have to chase him. Much better to not steal an officers weapon and fire it at him.....
June 22, 20205 yr Author Anyone realize the DA that tossed out these BS charges is A. In a tough election and B. Is facing his own criminal charges? No wonder he charged before the investigation was completed on charges where he has no chance at a conviction. Nice distraction for him.
June 22, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, mayanh8 said: Much better to kill him than let him run away and have to chase him. This is so idiotic. The cops don’t know if he’s going to run away harmlessly or turn around, pull his own gun, and start shooting. He’s a random guy who just attacked them. This is why you don’t resist arrest, assault police officers and shoot a deadly weapon you took by force from them.
June 23, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Uscg-green said: Much better to not steal an officers weapon and fire it at him..... Things usually tend to escalate pretty quickly from there.
June 23, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, Kz! said: Let's check in on Atlanta: Yeah, still going great. That white cop deserved to get run out of there by a mob for trying to *squints* assist a shooting victim. The cops might as well just keep calling out sick. Let the bodies pile up if that's how they're going to be treated when responding to a f'n shooting. Absolutely disgraceful. The Atlanta mayor made her bed, so let her lay in it.
June 23, 20205 yr 19 hours ago, TEW said: This is so idiotic. The cops don’t know if he’s going to run away harmlessly or turn around, pull his own gun, and start shooting. He’s a random guy who just attacked them. This is why you don’t resist arrest, assault police officers and shoot a deadly weapon you took by force from them. TEW, That Georgia views a taser as a deadly weapon changes the calculus dramatically when it comes to a justification decision. I think the Officers in Georgia are in a much stronger position than they would be in another state like PA.
June 23, 20205 yr On 6/20/2020 at 11:49 AM, Kz! said: I don't care. We know, you're a good little statist.
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