4 minutes ago, 91defense said:

Only McNabb and Dawkins had their numbers retired, and that was a long run of good teams. Kelce for sure, but I don't know if they'll do any of the others. If they do 55, they have to do 91, so they probably don't do either. And how much better is Lane Johnson than Runyan, Tra Thomas, Jason Peters, etc.? 

This is just one idiot's opinion.

Is LeSean McCoy or Brent Celek deserving? They aren't officially retired but clearly off limits. 

Just now, 91defense said:

We didn't retire Eric Allen, Seth Joyner, Troy Vincent. I know a lot of the guys I mentioned have had good years on other teams, but they are as deserving as 55, 91, and 65 IMO.

Eric Allen- Eagle, Saint, Raider

Seth Joyner- Eagle, Cardinal, Packer, Bronco

Troy Vincent- Dolphin, Eagle, Bill

All 3 combined SB wins with the Eagles- 0

Cox- Eagle

BG- Eagle

Kelce- Eagle

Lane- Eagle

All huge contributors to the Eagles 1st and as of now, only SB win.

5 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 

It's time to break out the letters, underscore or dash. 

Eagles 2055 jerseys

Retiring numbers should only be considered for hall of famers. Even then, some teams have weird house rules.

Has any Eagle worn 87 since Celek retired?

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

I have no patience for coaches who say a player has bad character, but won't discipline them or let them go. They could have kicked him off the team if he had a bad work ethic. Of course, he'd go to Alabama and crush them. 

One of the reasons Lamar Jackson dropped was Bobby Petrino saying Lamar didn't study enough. Lamar was the only thing keeping Petrino at his job. 

Seems like there might be something to that though, doesn't there? 

 

Did they say he had bad character?  I haven't seen that anywhere.  I've only heard that they weren't exactly glowing in their discussions of him.  Again, there's a middle ground between what you are suggesting and where the reports I've seen have come.

Just now, RLC said:

Retiring numbers should only be considered for hall of famers. Even then, some teams have weird house rules.

Has any Eagle worn 87 since Celek retired?

So #5 for Nolan Smith?

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Eric Allen- Eagle, Saint, Raider

Seth Joyner- Eagle, Cardinal, Packer, Bronco

Troy Vincent- Dolphin, Eagle, Bill

All 3 combined SB wins with the Eagles- 0

Cox- Eagle

BG- Eagle

Kelce- Eagle

Lane- Eagle

All huge contributors to the Eagles 1st and as of now, only SB win.

Dawkins and McNabb played on other teams as well, and what if we win 3-4 super bowls in the next decade? We can't just retire a bunch because we won one one year.

 

8 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 

It's time to break out the letters, underscore or dash. 

hexadecimal.

5 minutes ago, 91defense said:

Only McNabb and Dawkins had their numbers retired, and that was a long run of good teams. Kelce for sure, but I don't know if they'll do any of the others. If they do 55, they have to do 91, so they probably don't do either. And how much better is Lane Johnson than Runyan, Tra Thomas, Jason Peters, etc.? 

This is just one idiot's opinion.

Rather than retiring numbers they should encourage their use like the special college numbers.

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The Eagles REALLY need to consider unretiring numbers and just doing a ring of honor.  You know there's going to be a push for 65, 62, 55 and 91 to be retired once those 4 hang them up.  You just can't field a team when so many numbers are unavailable. 

Retiring numbers is a scam and a joke in all sports.

Honor them yes but retire them?  Hell no.

I love that ring of honor idea. You could start from scratch and add one player every year. Unveil it at the first home game of the year.

Just now, Arsenal79 said:

Retiring numbers is a scam and a joke in all sports.

Honor them yes but retire them?  Hell no.

Don't like it either.  I understand the sentimentality of no one wearing number x again for a franchise.

I think a better tribute is that the best DL on the team wears #92.  Best DB #20.  Use the number as a badge of honor.

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

Retiring numbers is a scam and a joke in all sports.

Honor them yes but retire them?  Hell no.

The way I see it, the jersey has a name and a number on it. Retire the combo. There will not be another White 92 or Dawkins 20, but allow for the number to be reused with a different name. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Don't like it either.  I understand the sentimentality of no one wearing number x again for a franchise.

I think a better tribute is that the best DL on the team wears #92.  Best DB #20.  Use the number as a badge of honor.

Best WR wears #19

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Eeeh....the Eagles have had a nice run over the last decade, but there are a lot of teams with a lot more retire-able numbers than the Eagles.  We can't be close to alone with this issue.

Retired numbers should be reserved for the truly best of the best... Getting into the HoF should be a prerequisite.  And even that, by itself, shouldn't be the lone criteria.  They need to be the truly elite or the elite.

Steve Van Buren - all-time leading rusher in the NFL when he retired.  Two-time NFL Champion. Check.
Chuck Bednarik - NFL Champion.  Last of the 60 minute men.  Check.  (Bonus - UoP alum)
Reggie White - All-time NFL Sack leader.  (BTW... he still is.  Bruce Smith stuck around for years beyond when he should have retired just to break it.  As bad as Strahan's fake record.)
Brian Dawkins - redefined the safety position.

Beyond those 4... the others are much harder to defend. 

IMO, Jason Kelce would qualify, as he also redefined the center position and did things no one else could do at his position.  Lane Johnson?  I don't think so.  Close, but its a really high bar for me. 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Is LeSean McCoy or Brent Celek deserving? They aren't officially retired but clearly off limits. 

No.

Retiring numbers is just dumb. It’s just for losers to live in the past 

15 minutes ago, RLC said:

One of the reasons Lamar Jackson dropped was Bobby Petrino saying Lamar didn't study enough. Lamar was the only thing keeping Petrino at his job.

I don't recall anyone predicting Lamar Jackson would be anything but the 5th QB off the board that year.  Darnold, Rosen, Allen and Mayfield were projected to go off the board earlier than him, pretty much by consensus.

If you used numbers as a badge of honor instead of an honor to retire the number, think of the killing teams could make with jersey sales.  Say Carter is a home run.  Imagine the hoopla of changing his number to 92 three years into his career.  Make a ceremony of it.  Everyone buys that Jersey.  Hello $$$.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don't recall anyone predicting Lamar Jackson would be anything but the 5th QB off the board that year.  Darnold, Rosen, Allen and Mayfield were projected to go off the board earlier than him, pretty much by consensus.

Proof no one knows what the hell they’re doing 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Interesting that he has Christian Ellis as LB #2. He's more than big enough at 6'3, 230. He plays with violence that we very much need. His brother was a solid starter for the Saints last year. If the Eagles think he can start, we're not drafting an LB.

I have been laughed at numerous times over the past few months for seeing that potential in Christian Elliss.  I realized then, and realize now that Elliss being the answer at LB#2 … and not just an answer, but a good answer … is a long shot given his UDFA status and University of Idaho competition level, but I’m interested to see how it plays out.

Just now, 91defense said:

Dawkins and McNabb played on other teams as well, and what if we win 3-4 super bowls in the next decade? We can't just retire a bunch because we won one one year.

 

I don't disagree one bit. I'm just preparing for how I think the Eagles will handle things.  They haven't handed out 9,12, 25 or 87 since those players have stopped playing either.

5, 9, 12, 15, 20, 25, 40, 44, 70, 87, 92, 99 currently off limits. 10% of available numbers for players to wear they just can't.  

It's just not sustainable to continue to retire numbers but at the same time, there are going to be players who fit or even bypass criteria of what the Eagles started retiring #s for.  

12 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Rather than retiring numbers they should encourage their use like the special college numbers.

Yup, that's what I've been saying for a long time.  The Cowboys do this with 88.  CeeDee Lamb originally wanted to be #10 but Jerry Jones insisted he wear #88 to continue the Cowboys WR tradition.  

 

Low key, I want to draft a punter tomorrow

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Yup, that's what I've been saying for a long time.  The Cowboys do this with 88.  CeeDee Lamb originally wanted to be #10 but Jerry Jones insisted he wear #88 to continue the Cowboys WR tradition.  

 

So the Cowboys have the Mac n cheese and number situations worked out… gold standard.