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1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

I think Sydney Brown is going to make everyone forget about CGJ very quick.  I also think the combination of Davis/Williams/Carter/Ojomo is going to be overall more productive that Hargrave was.

I'm not worried about any FA departures to be honest. 

I’m also very excited for Sydney Brown. For me he was one of those guys I was hoping we’d get in the mid rounds, but thought even if he’s available we’ll probably pass on him. So I’m pumped we got him. 
 

I remember a few weeks ago someone commented on his highlight tape that he looks like a bad tackler. I don’t think that’s true, I think he does a nice job running downhill and making open field tackles. 

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20 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Owner of the car she was driving.  That is the association I referred to in my post and why the case against them struggles a bit.  

Hard to see how the case against the athletic association struggles. It pays the football coaches. This happened on their watch, and there is no limit on its liability because it is a private entity. 

7 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Nothing. It’s a blatant money grab. Sue the drunk driver’s estate. For Christ sake, he’s suing the car dealership that provided the Jeep to Carter. This guy is just shooting a 12 gauge at anyone he can name and hoping something hits. 

Ridiculous that anyone other than the drunk driver of the vehicle could be found liable. The US civil court system is a joke. 

How do you know that she didn’t incite Carter to race instead of vice versa? 

Car dealerships get sued on several theories.  Did they perform maintenance or inspections of the car?  I can’t tell you how often I saw suits against dealerships based on aged or high mileage tires where part of the oil change was rotation or inspection and the tires were out of date or worn.   Or if they allege a manufacturing defect, it can be a ploy for local jurisdiction.  Sue one defendant in their domicile.  If they provided the car as a donation to the association, they might try that stream of commerce.  A lease wouldn’t work because the Graves Amendment should bar liability.  But you are right, this is a deep pocket attempt at maximizing recovery where the decedent driver probably left an estate with little to no assets and the University has a state granted liability limit.  Thing is that with the risk of a wayward jury awarding liability or damages based on sympathy not reality that this money grab is probably worth millions.  Saw it every day for decades in my former career.  If we coupled all the personal injury lawyer claims/cases in the US each year, just the lawyers’ contingency fees of 33%-50%, we have one of the biggest "industries” in the nation.  Couple that with my industry, liability insurance (plus self administered losses - many corporations retain the majority of their lesser losses), and the premium costs and I believe it is the largest business sector in the US.  I am not complaining.  It fed my family and put my kids through college.  But it does seem kind of unfair to Carter.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Car dealerships get sued on several theories.  Did they perform maintenance or inspections of the car?  I can’t tell you how often I saw suits against dealerships based on aged or high mileage tires where part of the oil change was rotation or inspection and the tires were out of date or worn.   Or if they allege a manufacturing defect, it can be a ploy for local jurisdiction.  Sue one defendant in their domicile.  If they provided the car as a donation to the association, they might try that stream of commerce.  A lease wouldn’t work because the Graves Amendment should bar liability.  But you are right, this is a deep pocket attempt at maximizing recovery where the decedent driver probably left an estate with little to no assets and the University has a state granted liability limit.  Thing is that with the risk of a wayward jury awarding liability or damages based on sympathy not reality that this money grab is probably worth millions.  Saw it every day for decades in my former career.  If we coupled all the personal injury lawyer claims/cases in the US each year, just the lawyers’ contingency fees of 33%-50%, we have one of the biggest "industries” in the nation.  Couple that with my industry, liability insurance (plus self administered losses - many corporations retain the majority of their lesser losses), and the premium costs and I believe it is the largest business sector in the US.  I am not complaining.  It fed my family and put my kids through college.  But it does seem kind of unfair to Carter.  

Yeah like I said, the person responsible for his son’s death is the drunk driver who crashed the car he was riding in. Not Jalen Carter. Not the Jeep dealership. I suppose since she was a UGA coach there could be some liability there. But other than her and UGA, I’d laugh any of his other claims out of court. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

I suggested that as a possibility.  NFL must have read my post. :whistle: Like the matchup.  The Lions OL will be a challenge for the Chiefs and they spent the offseason trying to fix their secondary.  

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

But it does seem kind of unfair to Carter.  

Carter has all the leverage. He can testify about all the crazy stuff that goes on during the recruiting process and how the coaches/university routinely looks the other way. The university (which has unlimited liability through its private non profit) has tons of incentives to keep this out of court. 

It will get settled and Carter will likely not have to pay anything beyond lawyer fees, which will likely come from the school. 

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I suggested that as a possibility.  NFL must have read my post. :whistle: Like the matchup.  The Lions OL will be a challenge for the Chiefs and they spent the offseason trying to fix their secondary.  

Random thought about the downside of hype: if the Lions win less than 9 games this year, does Dan Campbell lose his job? 

May seem like an overreaction, but this would then be 3 years of no playoffs. How many years of no playoffs should a first time coach be allowed? 4? 5? Plus they’re expected to be good this year with the talent they’ve accumulated. If they’re not, that’ll look bad on the coaches

I think the mountainous expectations put Dan on the hot seat

7 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Hard to see how the case against the athletic association struggles. It pays the football coaches. This happened on their watch, and there is no limit on its liability because it is a private entity. 

Wait, so the coaches are responsible? The case against the association is because they provided the car for use by the driver when she was performing her duties as an employee of UGA. As an employee of UGA, her liability is covered by the sovereign immunity I talked about in an earlier post. But UGA says she wasn’t performing employment duties at the time and the association asserts the scope of permissive use was limited to those employment activities.  I would bet that the keys to the vehicle were given by the association to the University hence weakening a negligent entrustment claim against the association but as a matter of law, the driver isn’t their agent.  But your conclusion is exactly what the father’s attorney is hoping for and enough to get the association’s insurer to contribute to the settlement pot.  The association will file a summary judgment, which the judge will hold hostage as the best outcome form the Court is a settlement not a trial. The threat the judge will be able to find a fact issue allows him to punt it to a jury.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Random thought about the downside of hype: if the Lions win less than 9 games this year, does Dan Campbell lose his job? 

Seems like an overreaction, but this would then be 3 years of no playoffs. How many years of no playoffs should a first time coach be allowed? 4? 5? Plus they’re expected to be good this year with the talent they’ve accumulated. If they’re not, that’ll look bad on the coaches

I think the mountainous expectations put Dan on the hot seat

I think unless they totally blow it, he's there.  The Lions are in a prime position.  The Packers are starting a QB not named Favre/Rodgers for the first time since 1992.  The Vikings just don't impress me.  Kirk Cousins is what he is and I don't see them ever getting over the hump with him.  The Bears are a team on the rise and that entirely rests on the growth of Justin Fields.

For the Lions and Dan Campbell, I wonder what the path to Hendon Hooker is.  Goff is better than average but I don't think he's the future.  If ever there was a year for the Lions to win the North, this is it. 

7 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Carter has all the leverage. He can testify about all the crazy stuff that goes on during the recruiting process and how the coaches/university routinely looks the other way. The university (which has unlimited liability through its private non profit) has tons of incentives to keep this out of court. 

It will get settled and Carter will likely not have to pay anything beyond lawyer fees, which will likely come from the school. 

You are naive.  Carter can’t risk being the last man standing based on Hatcher.  I am not a lawyer so others might read this differently but see the bolded section.

An important aspect of Georgia’s Tort Reform Act of 2005 addressed the apportionment of fault among the responsible parties. Georgia law traditionally recognized joint and severally liability among parties liable for a plaintiff’s injuries—any defendant found liable could be required to pay 100 percent of the damages awarded. The Tort Reform Act of 2005 did away with some aspects of joint and several liability. But, how much really changed? In Alston & Bird, LLP v. Hatcher Management Holdings, LLC, Case No. S20G1419 (decided August 10, 2021), the Georgia Supreme Court limited the changes made by the Tort Reform Act.

The issue in the Hatcher case was whether in a single defendant case the jury could apportion liability between the defendant and other allegedly responsible non-parties. In a single defendant case, other parties might be at fault for the plaintiff’s injuries.  But, they might have been sued separately, they might have already settled, or they might be immune from suit. Language in the Tort Reform Act appeared to contemplate allowing the jury to attribute fault to such non-parties, thereby reducing the damages for which the single defendant was responsible. In the Hatcher case, the jury had apportion some liability to a non-party, and the Court of Appeals affirmed that outcome.

The Georgia Supreme Court reversed. The Georgia Supreme Court interpreted the relevant statute, O.C.G.A. § 51-12-33. The Court concluded that the statute allowed the apportionment of fault among persons who are liable (parties and non-parties) only in a multi-defendant case. Where a case is brought against only a single defendant, no fault can be apportioned to responsible non-parties. In such cases, the defendant must pay 100 percent of the damages, less any percentage of fault attributed to the plaintiff.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I think unless they totally blow it, he's there.  The Lions are in a prime position.  The Packers are starting a QB not named Favre/Rodgers for the first time since 1992.  The Vikings just don't impress me.  Kirk Cousins is what he is and I don't see them ever getting over the hump with him.  The Bears are a team on the rise and that entirely rests on the growth of Justin Fields.

For the Lions and Dan Campbell, I wonder what the path to Hendon Hooker is.  Goff is better than average but I don't think he's the future.  If ever there was a year for the Lions to win the North, this is it. 

I think the Lions’ biggest issue is they didn’t invest much in their Dline this offseason, the #1 way to turn around a terrible defense. Adding CJGJ was like putting a bandaid on a stroke victim. 
 

Vikings and Bears are gonna try to win games by scoring, Detroit could be flashy again but still lose games due to this.

Are we Flyers fans supposed to be excited about Keith Jones and Danny Brierre?  I honestly don't know.  On one hand, it's great to have Philly guys.  On the other hand, we have Philly guys who were brought up in Flyers organization of BSB with physically imposing, slower teams.  Jones has no experience in the front office and Brierre hasn't done much IMO that tells me he's a GM to be excited about.

Unpopular opinion, it's time to bring back the Bro Hymn or Doop as the goal songs.

19 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I suggested that as a possibility.  NFL must have read my post. :whistle: Like the matchup.  The Lions OL will be a challenge for the Chiefs and they spent the offseason trying to fix their secondary.  

Horrible matchup for a kickoff weekend.  They are speculating about what the Lions might be.   Not a marquee matchup by any means.  Mahomes vs. Goff?  Meh.  Lions aren't a marquee team.  This is the NFL flexing its muscles that people will tune in to that game, because it is the Kickoff game, not because it is a good matchup.  Of course, having the Lions early means that they might still be fooling people to believe this year will be different for them.  

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Are we Flyers fans supposed to be excited about Keith Jones and Danny Brierre?  I honestly don't know.  On one hand, it's great to have Philly guys.  On the other hand, we have Philly guys who were brought up in Flyers organization of BSB with physically imposing, slower teams.  Jones has no experience in the front office and Brierre hasn't done much IMO that tells me he's a GM to be excited about.

Unpopular opinion, it's time to bring back the Bro Hymn or Doop as the goal songs.

We shouldn't be.  It's just a different generation of the same mindset.  Bring back former Flyers' players and try to get the fanbase to believe that they can rekindle the good ole days.   They need to bring in someone from completely OUTSIDE the Flyers hive mind.  

 

They need to go out and find TALENTed players, not grinders.

13 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Are we Flyers fans supposed to be excited about Keith Jones and Danny Brierre?  I honestly don't know.  On one hand, it's great to have Philly guys.  On the other hand, we have Philly guys who were brought up in Flyers organization of BSB with physically imposing, slower teams.  Jones has no experience in the front office and Brierre hasn't done much IMO that tells me he's a GM to be excited about.

Unpopular opinion, it's time to bring back the Bro Hymn or Doop as the goal songs.

Neither of those guys are from the BSB era at all.  Briere didn't become a Flyer until 2007.  The Flyers team have been marshmallows to play against for at least 20 years.  Clarke, Holmgren, Hextall, Berube, etc. are from the 'physically imposing' era.  Jones and Briere never played in an era where physicality won games and championships.

They're both terrible hires because neither have any practical experience for the positions they were hired.  The correct path was to hire away executive talent from organizations with a recent history of winning at the highest level.  The Flyers have simply resumed the hiring alumni method, which hasn't worked yet.

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

We shouldn't be.  It's just a different generation of the same mindset.  Bring back former Flyers' players and try to get the fanbase to believe that they can rekindle the good ole days.   They need to bring in someone from completely OUTSIDE the Flyers hive mind.  

 

They need to go out and find TALENTed players, not grinders.

Yea, that's what I meant by bringing Philly guys back.  They have that BSB mindset in their DNA. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Why are you debating colors with your wife?  Just smile and agree.  Your life will be much simpler.

Because that damn dress is gold and white and my hill to die on. 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Neither of those guys are from the BSB era at all.  Briere didn't become a Flyer until 2007.  The Flyers team have been marshmallows to play against for at least 20 years.  Clarke, Holmgren, Hextall, Berube, etc. are from the 'physically imposing' era.  Jones and Briere never played in an era where physicality won games and championships.

They're both terrible hires because neither have any practical experience for the positions they were hired.  The correct path was to hire away executive talent from organizations with a recent history of winning at the highest level.  The Flyers have simply resumed the hiring alumni method, which hasn't worked yet.

Not from that era no, but the organization was still a BSB organization.  They were here under Paul Holmgren and Ron Hextall.  More Philly guys who were brought up in the BSB mindset of an organization.

 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Because that damn dress is gold and white and my hill to die on. 

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Good luck to you, sir.

21 hours ago, Captain F said:

Idk. The Desaun Watson story was pretty feel good. 

Still waiting to see if he gets the happy ending he wants in Cleveland. 

33 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Are we Flyers fans supposed to be excited about Keith Jones and Danny Brierre?  I honestly don't know.  On one hand, it's great to have Philly guys.  On the other hand, we have Philly guys who were brought up in Flyers organization of BSB with physically imposing, slower teams.  Jones has no experience in the front office and Brierre hasn't done much IMO that tells me he's a GM to be excited about.

Unpopular opinion, it's time to bring back the Bro Hymn or Doop as the goal songs.

Individually, I have no problem with either move.

Together, it's bad.

  • They're both new at their respective roles
  • Neither has any real organizational experience outside of the Flyers
  • There's no organizational reset. It's status quo.

It's awful. 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Individually, I have no problem with either move.

Together, it's bad.

  • They're both new at their respective roles
  • Neither has any real organizational experience outside of the Flyers
  • There's no organizational reset. It's status quo.

It's awful. 

Didn't you hear?

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40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Horrible matchup for a kickoff weekend.  They are speculating about what the Lions might be.   Not a marquee matchup by any means.  Mahomes vs. Goff?  Meh.  Lions aren't a marquee team.  This is the NFL flexing its muscles that people will tune in to that game, because it is the Kickoff game, not because it is a good matchup.  Of course, having the Lions early means that they might still be fooling people to believe this year will be different for them.  

Yup, Chiefs will win by at least 20.

41 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Horrible matchup for a kickoff weekend.  They are speculating about what the Lions might be.   Not a marquee matchup by any means.  Mahomes vs. Goff?  Meh.  Lions aren't a marquee team.  This is the NFL flexing its muscles that people will tune in to that game, because it is the Kickoff game, not because it is a good matchup.  Of course, having the Lions early means that they might still be fooling people to believe this year will be different for them.  

Even in the games they lost, the Lions were mostly close.  Runner up Defensive ROY v Mahommes.  Mahommes starting with a revamped WR corp too and diminished OL. Wish Williams wasn’t suspended.  But it’s not like Detroit had him all of last ear either. I like the match up. 

8 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Yup, Chiefs will win by at least 20.

Just wait for the kneecap carnage.  The NFL is going after a new fan base, people with blood thirst. 

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