59 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

My bad - I didn't see that article.  It doesn't mean he didn't provide aid.  It sounds like there other people around at the time including staff members in the UGA program.  My guess is they told him to leave.  That same article says the officer that interviewed Carter observed no signs he was drinking.  

He also lied to the police and gave them conflicting info.

Usually if youre totally innocent you lie to police at the scene of a deadly accident.

50 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Nope not saying that hopefully lesson learned but people are acting like he caused the crash or something that it’s not. 

What??? 

He did cause the crash, by racing his drunk friend. 

Stop being stupid 

49 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Lol. Ok. I guess racing your drunk friend is all good. Boys will be boys. 

No one is saying it is all good but it also doesn't mean he's a criminal sociopath.  It's common stupid behavior that most men I know have engaged in at one point or another in their lives.  So I am not going disparage his character about it.  He made bad decisions.  He will face criminal consequences.  That does not mean he should fall significantly in the draft.  I think it is a concern but his actions don't rise to the concern of a sexual assault allegation or other criminal action.  He could be a serial killer but that's not the charge against him.  I hope he learns from it and pays what he may owe to the victims.  

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

He also lied to the police and gave them conflicting info.

Usually if youre totally innocent you lie to police at the scene of a deadly accident.

I think you meant to write you " don't" lie.😉

Just now, Mike31mt said:

What??? 

He did cause the crash, by racing his drunk friend. 

Stop being stupid 

Caused it how? His friend could have chosen not to drive drunk  or not to race and drive drunk.  The members of the UGA program that were in the car could have insisted he not drive the car.  He could have ran them off the road intentionally but that's not the allegation.  He was racing with him but you can't tell me that you believe he intended for the accident to occur or have some knowledge that Carter directly caused his teammate to take the curve at too high of a speed.  

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

He also lied to the police and gave them conflicting info.

Usually if youre totally innocent you lie to police at the scene of a deadly accident.

He's likely not innocent of the charges.  He shouldn't have said anything to the police.  

 

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

No one is saying it is all good but it also doesn't mean he's a criminal sociopath.  It's common stupid behavior that most men I know have engaged in at one point or another in their lives.  So I am not going disparage his character about it.  He made bad decisions.  He will face criminal consequences.  That does not mean he should fall significantly in the draft.  I think it is a concern but his actions don't rise to the concern of a sexual assault allegation or other criminal action.  He could be a serial killer but that's not the charge against him.  I hope he learns from it and pays what he may owe to the victims.  

Depends on if he's charged or not.

If he's charged with involuntary vehicular manslaughter all that entails won't be concluded until far after the draft.

The criminal court system as we've seen moves at a snails pace.

Precedence assumes that if convicted of charge he would most likely get a fine and probation.

I'm not sure there has ever been a player drafted that was in the process of a criminal court conviction.

If there has been id be interested to know who and the circumstances.

I also can't recall a player being drafted that had just been sentence to probation, though maybe that's happened before.

Having said that a team may look at Carter's talent and believe it outweighs the potential headache of pending charges/convictions etc.

I mean Watson was accused by 20+ separate women and the browns gave him 200 million dollars so🤷‍♂️.

Then again Watson was already in the league had all that come out before he was drafted no team would have touched him with a ten foot pole, so it will be interesting to see how far Carter drops if he is or isn't charged.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

 

As a UD fan, I'm on board with this.  Really smart player and a leader.  Would love to see if he can get back in to coachcing and climb the ladder.

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I think you meant to write you " don't" lie.😉

I was being sarcastic, but yes youre correct

Another draft year, another story about young people doing stupid things that contribute to the death of another young person.    So sad, so pointless.

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Caused it how? His friend could have chosen not to drive drunk  or not to race and drive drunk.  The members of the UGA program that were in the car could have insisted he not drive the car.  He could have ran them off the road intentionally but that's not the allegation.  He was racing with him but you can't tell me that you believe he intended for the accident to occur or have some knowledge that Carter directly caused his teammate to take the curve at too high of a speed.  

He wasnt drunk, he could have actually been an adult instead of a man baby and been responsible and his friends might be alive today.

He was driving like a maniac at 230 in the morning and racing his friend who he knew was drunk.

He left the scene, then came back and lied to the police.

Wake up.  This is horrible behavior from an adult, let alone a child.

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He's likely not innocent of the charges.  He shouldn't have said anything to the police.  

Why??  His friends literally just died.  Hes a football player not a mobster.

Fess up and tell the truth, dont act like a criminal POS and you won't be treated like one.

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Caused it how? His friend could have chosen not to drive drunk  or not to race and drive drunk.  The members of the UGA program that were in the car could have insisted he not drive the car.  He could have ran them off the road intentionally but that's not the allegation.  He was racing with him but you can't tell me that you believe he intended for the accident to occur or have some knowledge that Carter directly caused his teammate to take the curve at too high of a speed.  

Directly is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in this post. Perhaps not directly, but my guess is indirectly. If he didn’t race them, maybe they’re alive today. That’s not to say he’s liable for their death. Ultimately, he wasn’t a drunk driver behind the wheel, but it seems likely at this point that he contributed to their death. 

Maybe more information comes out and exonerates them. For his sake, I hope it does. 

16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes you are, you ignored that he left the scene.

Its amazing how people are treating this like no big deal.  Imagine seeing a horrific car crash with your friends inside and just running away.

 

12 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

 

Dennard Wilson is definitely gone

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Dennard Wilson is definitely gone

Yup. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Dennard Wilson is definitely gone

25 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I was comparing BG to Kancey and that conversation morphed from the Lukas Van Ness comparisons from earlier.  Somehow there was some confusion on the comparisons. 

I mean they are both base DEs - but BG was a highly productive prospect with a ton of experience, that had to fight size/length concerns through the draft process... LVN different kettle of fish IMO.  If BG was 6'5" 270, he'd be ahead Will Anderson in this draft.

If kancey is there at 30 i really think it’s a kid the eagles would select. Frankly wouldn’t be shocked if the eagles move from 10 to like 15-18 range to get some more picks then i could see him there too. 

i think it was super interesting that Zach Berman brought up in the BWF that he has talk to a lot of people around the league about the eagles saying that they should go heavy offense early in the draft and try to mimic what the Chiefs do. Basically just be absolutely loaded offensively and just piece together week to week defensively hoping that it’s enough.

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Why??  His friends literally just died.  Hes a football player not a mobster.

Fess up and tell the truth, dont act like a criminal POS and you won't be treated like one.

Having been through the criminal justice system myself I'd advise anyone innocent or guilty to immediately at first chance plead the 5th and get a lawyer.

Only guilty people lawyer up or plead the 5th is a worn out old trope echoed by corrupt police.

Always ask for a lawyer, never talk to police without one, plead the 5th until your lawyer arrives at which case that lawyer will say no comment.

It's the smart thing to do, people always talking about how people died for our rights and we should respect those people by upholding those rights 

People died for equal representation under the law, people died so we could have the right to not incriminate ourselves, those are my rights and I'm going to honor all those that died before me fighting so I could have those rights by lawyering up.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If kancey is there at 30 i really think it’s a kid the eagles would select. Frankly wouldn’t be shocked if the eagles move from 10 to like 15-18 range to get some more picks then i could see him there too. 

i think it was super interesting that Zach Berman brought up in the BWF that he has talk to a lot of people around the league about the eagles saying that they should go heavy offense early in the draft and try to mimic what the Chiefs do. Basically just be absolutely loaded offensively and just piece together week to week defensively hoping that it’s enough.

I get the logic - but I don't want Jalen Hurts having to be a hero every week winning 38-35 games because our defense can't punch through a paper bag.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If kancey is there at 30 i really think it’s a kid the eagles would select. Frankly wouldn’t be shocked if the eagles move from 10 to like 15-18 range to get some more picks then i could see him there too. 

i think it was super interesting that Zach Berman brought up in the BWF that he has talk to a lot of people around the league about the eagles saying that they should go heavy offense early in the draft and try to mimic what the Chiefs do. Basically just be absolutely loaded offensively and just piece together week to week defensively hoping that it’s enough.

I absolutely hate this strategy. I know the league leans to offenses favor, but you are putting all your eggs in one basket. If the offense doesn't have an A game, you are likely going to lose. Hell, we just saw even WITH an A game from the offense, you can still lose. You need balance so not only one side can support the other, but they can also pick them up and win the game if one of them is struggling. 

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I get the logic - but I don't want Jalen Hurts having to be a hero every week winning 38-35 games because our defense can't punch through a paper bag.

I get the logic. Because if stack that often hypothetically you draft a lineman like Paris Johnson who can play right guard til lane Johnson retires then you get someone like hyatt to be your third wide receiver. That offense would be ridiculous. Cause I don’t know how you cover all three of those wide receivers, goedert, and still have hurts to account for. 

I wouldn’t do it, but I could understand the logic behind it. Personally, I think the Eagles rather pay for defensive guys in free agency, then go to the draft and loading up on defense early. Except if there is an elite or big time pass rusher they can draft early.