For anyone that cares, Twitter seems to think that guy CJGJ posted is his jeweler. 

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m not paying either one very much. It’s basically slightly more than they paid pascal. I rather save the money from quez making $2.7 mil next year and pay either of those guys that and draft a speedster in the middle to late rounds then go back with quez. I rather have the reliability of woods or landry and have a young kid be groomed in the Wr room by smith, brown and landry/woods. When healthy both are likely solid additions and cheap. They played with bad Qbs last year. Not sure how good many WRs are with malik willis playing a good portion of games and tannehill injured and declining. And only saint WR played well last year with Dalton was olave.  

so i could spend 2.7 mil on quez or trade/release quez and save 2.7 mil, spend around 2 mil on woods/landry (that’s what i give them i wouldn’t pay more) and draft quez replacement in the 4th/5th round which gives me 4 more years of development. I could draft and keep quez but i don’t think quez watkins is worth 2.7 mil 

I highly doubt Woods will sign for $2 mill. With incentives and everything he'll probably be looking at $6-$8 mill.

31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Never said it was thrilling or great. But with the money they have i dont see them making a big splash type signing nor going after a lot of guys in the first wave of free agency. I think they are going to extend hurts and try to make sure they’re in a better cap position next year to make one of those splash signings 

Are these guys cuts? Would signing a bunch of low value free agents who were allowed to walk cancel out our comp picks for losing high valued guys?

9 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Are these guys cuts? Would signing a bunch of low value free agents who were allowed to walk cancel out our comp picks for losing high valued guys?

Johnson is a cut free agent. Also i think some of the guys they sign are gonna be later in free agency after that deadline where they don’t affect it. Also i believe you can only maximize at 4 comp picks to begin with. I’m guessing you aren’t canceling out guys like seumalo, hargrave, bradberry and CJGJ who all could get paid the most at their positions in free agency.  I also think you are likely having some other guys like sanders, edwards, white, Epps possibly leave so those are the ones who likely would be canceled out anyway. 

19 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

I highly doubt Woods will sign for $2 mill. With incentives and everything he'll probably be looking at $8 mill.

I’d be willing to say he doesn’t get $8 mil per and if he does do not think his cap number would be that against your cap. I wouldn’t pay him then. Add on i do think landry you could get cheap and a low risk high reward type guy.  Again is quez Watkins worth 2.7 mil? I have yet see him worth nearly 3 mil against the cap. Let me point out for how great of speed quez has his yards per reception this year was 10.7. Meanwhile landry was actually higher at 10.9 and played in a far worse system and Qb. I much rather take my chances with drafting and having a veteran like woods or landry. 

also signing woods doesn’t even mess with your potential for compensatory picks. And I’d point out eagles had interest in him coming off an injury last offseason so i wouldn’t be surprised if cheap enough to play the slot 

 

 

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Ugh hate it hate it hate it.

Give me someone, anyone with upside. This list makes me wanna throw up.

19 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Ugh hate it hate it hate it.

Give me someone, anyone with upside. This list makes me wanna throw up.

I wouldn’t mind johnson at the right price if CJGJ is gone. I think he would be solid but not spectacular at the right price. Better than a lot of the safety market where it messes with your comp picks.  woods as the 3rd wr at a low price is also worth a flier. If he gets too much then I’d agree.

The problem is most guys who are cut that won’t mess with your comp picks aren’t going to be upside type guys unless it’s a giants situation with bradberry but you are likely waiting til after the draft at that point. 

5 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Ugh hate it hate it hate it.

Give me someone, anyone with upside. This list makes me wanna throw up.

We need cheap, short term, plug and play options that are known quantities and won’t hamper our comp pick haul.

That’s the reality of paying Hurts $40+ million per season.

15 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Ugh hate it hate it hate it.

Give me someone, anyone with upside. This list makes me wanna throw up.

Mariota would be a nice backup.

17 minutes ago, TEW said:

We need cheap, short term, plug and play options that are known quantities and won’t hamper our comp pick haul.

That’s the reality of paying Hurts $40+ million per season.

Yup. Looking at the safety market if CJGJ does leave the best are bates (not happening if they aren’t signing CJGJ for that money), von bell, poyer, adderely, rapp, edmunds and Amos. Not sure they want to spend money on poyer who’s gonna be 32 in April. Adderley, rapp are young. Rapp was good last year but adderley was basically as good as Johnson so he doesn’t cost you comp picks. Amos is 30 and really wasn’t very good this past year. Bell and edmunds were in same tier as Johnson last year so spend on them to potentially miss out on a comp pick?

tbh i don’t see the eagles going into free agency and throwing money around at safety unless they see a jenkins and mcleod situation cause i don’t think they’d want to mess with their comp picks. Also, have to remember two years ago when he became a free agent, and when Gannon was brought in to be Dc, the eagles had interest in him. Desai plays a similar style d so wouldn’t be shocking if they have interest  

mariota would make sense as a backup but i think he gets overpaid by someone as a backup. Woods if cheap enough is a fine 3-4 wide receiver and a good locker room guy. 
 

Mariota would be the perfect backup for the Eagles as they wouldn't have to change their offense much with him if Hurts missed a game or two.

I'm starting to get a bad feeling that our starting safeties will be Epps and Blankenship next season.

12 minutes ago, TEW said:

We need cheap, short term, plug and play options that are known quantities and won’t hamper our comp pick haul.

That’s the reality of paying Hurts $40+ million per season.

I'd rather trot out some late round rookie and play the Blankenships, Jobes, etc. than sign half the guys on that list. If you're scraping like that, just trust your drafting.

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Mariota would be the perfect backup for the Eagles as they wouldn't have to change their offense much with him if Hurts missed a game or two.

I'm starting to get a bad feeling that our starting safeties will be Epps and Blankenship next season.

Did you not see him in Atlanta?  He cannot pass

2 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Did you not see him in Atlanta?  He cannot pass

we talkin bout a backup

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

we talkin bout a backup

I don’t know how good or bad of a thrower Marcus Mariota is at this stage of his career. I’m guessing not great.

But I think some of the reason the Falcons ran the ball as much as they did was because their defense was bad and they were pretty effective running the ball with their oline. Defensively they were 25th vs. pass and 23rd vs. run, 23rd ppg and 28th in takeaways. Arthur Smith probably thought the best way for them to win games was ball control the crap out of you so that you couldn’t just have 35 to 40 minutes of ball control and scored 30-40 points on that defense. Pretty amazing they won 7 games considering how bad that defense was. 

Whatever this means 

17 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Posted about this scenario the other day and why if Jaxon Smith-Njigba is there at 30 you have to consider him.  If JSN was healthy and played a full season, I think he'd be a top 15 guy.  The Eagles need a new WR3.  Watkins isn't the guy and it's likely he's moved.  Pascal is a FA and even if he comes back, WR4 is his role.  You can add a player like JSN and in 2025, when the decision to extend Smith and either restructure or trade AJ Brown is staring you in the face, you have what hopefully is a very good WR3 ready to step in to a starting role.

there are a couple of 4.3 rbs who could play snaps in the slot.  one has 4.32, the other has 1.48.  It might be good to have a superfast rb especially if he's pretty cheap.  And he can take snaps from Quez. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know how good or bad of a thrower Marcus Mariota is at this stage of his career. I’m guessing not great.

But I think some of the reason the Falcons ran the ball as much as they did was because their defense was bad and they were pretty effective running the ball with their oline. Defensively they were 25th vs. pass and 23rd vs. run.  Arthur Smith probably thought the best way for them to win games was ball control the crap out of you so that you couldn’t just have 35 to 40 minutes of ball control and scored 30-40 points on that defense. 

He  completed 61% of his pass and had 15 TD passes to 9 INT's in 13 games. Add in the 400+ rushing yards and 4 rushing TD's and the Eagles aren't going to do much better in a backup than him.

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Seems kinda high. We got two years of Chris Long for under $6M total. 

They also have $18M in dead money because of Graham. I know you have to separate that from a new deal to fairly judge it, but that’s still a lot going against the cap for a role player. 

I agree it seems kind of high.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Whatever this means 

Unfortunately it looks like a goodbye message. Letting him go will end up being a massive mistake.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Mariota would be a good replacement for Minshew

3 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

New deal will push some of the dead cap back to later years. So keeping him at that price won’t cost much more than letting him go for 2023

It will cost whatever his base salary is at a minimum.  $5 million per year is a hefty base salary, no matter how it is packaged.  
 

Did either Suh or Joseph get paid $5 million?

6 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Whatever this means 

It means he's leaving for elsewhere...........

Unless the Eagles want to pay him what he wants.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

He  completed 61% of his pass and had 15 TD passes to 9 INT's in 13 games. Add in the 400+ rushing yards and 4 rushing TD's and the Eagles aren't going to do much better in a backup than him.

I don’t disagree. I think he’s going to get more money than what the Eagles are gonna be willing to spend at backup quarterback tbh. I was just pointing out a reason why the Falcons didn’t wanna throw the football more was because of how bad the defense was. So they tried to shorten the game so that they could stay in and win. Add on mariota averaged 23 passes per game. Meanwhile Ridder averaged 28. So 5 more attempts per game and that was cause they wanted to know what Ridder was and if they needed to draft a Qb this offseason.