Just now, RLC said:

We have the personnel to run Vance's system, but it's the complete opposite of what we do now. It's all blitz, all the time. We would probably have to draft a CB at 10 to make it really work. 

Not opposed to that.

does he run a 4-3 under? Cant recall

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

The biggest question this offseason remains Jalen Hurts, not the coordinators or FAs.  He proved everyone wrong last year and showed that he's a great QB, a franchise QB.  

1.  Can he keep it up?  Lots of one time big seasons from QB's who faded ***cough, Wentz, cough***.  This is where the intangibles actually do come in...I think everyone would bet on him at this point.

2.  Most importantly, the formula the Eagles used to steamroll their way to the SB this year was to have a great QB on a rookie contract, which enabled the Eagles to have a much more talented roster than all other teams with great QBs.  Can Hurts be so great that we compete for SB's simply because he carries a less talented roster and is greater than other great QBs?  (Mahomes).  Or can Hurts accept a bit of a home town discount for the sake of winning SB's so our roster can consistently have the edge over other teams with great QBs?

3.  Playing style.  I may have been wrong about Hurts initially, but I do take credit for being one of the first, maybe the first, to identify him as a pocket QB.  He can really read the field and deal from the pocket.  Picks apart the blitz, accurate, great decisions.  The unusual thing is that every game seems to have a different emphasis.  Even though he CAN do this, it doesn't happen on a weekly basis.  We all know that we've said "Oh, we get good passing Hurts today" or "We get running back Hurts today."  Every QB has bad passing games, but the weekly emphasis needs to be pocket dealing Hurts.  Critical downs and games, we can incorporate the designed runs.  We can be a run heavy team with the RBs when the matchups favor it.  But pocket passing Hurts should be the norm, not an every other week emphasis.  It's what he's best at.  

The play style point is a bit nuanced right, since our philosophy of offensive football is probably one of the more unique in modern football history. They’ve built an offense that effectively can do everything well with the assumption that no defense can equally do everything well. So we run a week-by-week offense based on what the opponent doesn’t do well. It will inevitably lead to weeks where Hurts runs the ball a lot.

My only desire therefore is for those weeks where he runs the ball 15-20 times only occur if absolutely necessary and otherwise saved for the playoffs.

27 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Pro bowl is not a measuring stick of any kind. Tyler Huntley added a pro bowl appearance to his resume this year. 

Not saying it is.  But for the most part (other than a few popularity contest winners) it typically shows the better players in that position for the year - since most All Pro players usually also make the pro bowl. 

25 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

No idea why they did that when they were ineffective most of the game.

 

Super Bowl Snap Counts:

 

NFCCG:

 

Divisional:

Gannon crapped his pants. That’s why. 

21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

It’s not just the pick. Its the contract differential when the pick has three cheap years 

If the player is worth the contract he’s worth the contract. Hypothetically if the Steelers said we want to deal you TJ watt for pick 30 you think howie cares it cost pick 30 and that contract for 3 cheap years? I highly doubt it. Again it depends on who the player is and has to be a premium position. Also under the assumption he’s good for 3 cheap years with pick 30. So you have that risk. Would you rather have a known stud with pick 30 in a trade or risk of the unknown but he is cheap. You are looking at just the value of the money in contract not how good/great the player is immediately and if young the foreseeable future. Heck even when reid was here we dealt a similar pick for Jason peters cause it was a premium position and a player they coveted due to being good/great 

That said i don’t think it’s very likely but i don’t rule it out entirely either.

I still think it's more likely Howie drafts BPA at #10, and moves back from #30 to recoup a couple of mid-round picks.  What happens during FA will give a better idea, though of where our most glaring needs are.  

5 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Gannon crapped his pants. That’s why. 

By going with the 4DL front Gannon sold out against the pass, but couldn't stop Mahomes as he was getting ball out very quickly despite 7 in coverage.  At a certain point going with the 5DL front might have made some sense as we'd stop run, might get a big play or at worst get beat quickly (so maybe our O has the ball last in a shootout).

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

I still think it's more likely Howie drafts BPA at #10, and moves back from #30 to recoup a couple of mid-round picks.  What happens during FA will give a better idea, though of where our most glaring needs are.  

I tend to think we do a small trade back at 10 if the pass rushers aren’t there. Then likely trade 30 for more picks. That said i don’t think you rule out if a player becomes available via trade that they really love and covet that they’d make that move. Although don’t think that’s likely to happen nor for pick 30

I don't like the idea of Vance Joseph for DC at all.  The guy was a defensive backs coach for 3 organizations before he ever got a shot at a DC job, then after one year as a DC he got a head coaching job in Denver -- where he was terrible.  Arizona hasn't exactly become a bone-crushing defense in his three years there since.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

I don't like the idea of Vance Joseph for DC at all.  The guy was a defensive backs coach for 3 organizations before he ever got a shot at a DC job, then after one year as a DC he got a head coaching job in Denver -- where he was terrible.  Arizona hasn't exactly become a bone-crushing defense in his three years there since.

The cardinals being a horribly run franchise really screwed the eagles in terms of fangio. Im guessing that’s who they wanted if Gannon left and at the time of the nfc title game they didn’t see that happening once the Texans hired demeco. 

Good news is that we get most of our offensive starters back next season - with new coordinators on both sides of the ball.  
 

 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The cardinals being a horribly run franchise really screwed the eagles in terms of fangio. Im guessing that’s who they wanted if Gannon left and at the time of the nfc title game they didn’t see that happening once the Texans hired demeco. 

Maybe, but there are still available coaches who would be better than Joseph IMO.  If they want to promote from within then Dennard Wilson is a better choice than Joseph.  If they wish to find an experienced DC outside the organization I would prefer a guy like Mike Zimmer; he's not getting any head coaching opportunities and was out of the league last season.  He would sign up today.  I'd also much rather hire Kris Richard than Joseph -- he's younger and brings a more proven track record of success.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don't like the idea of Vance Joseph for DC at all.  The guy was a defensive backs coach for 3 organizations before he ever got a shot at a DC job, then after one year as a DC he got a head coaching job in Denver -- where he was terrible.  Arizona hasn't exactly become a bone-crushing defense in his three years there since.

I mean you have to look at the entire timeline.

He was the 49er's DB coach for 5 years. Was let go when Mike Singletary was let go.

He coached the Houston Texans secondary for the next couple of years, and the DB performed well, but was let go when Wade Phillips was fired.

He went to the Bengals where that group overperformed and led to him getting a Defensive Coordinator job with the Dolphins.

The Dolphins defense was amazing and that led to him getting hired by the Broncos as a head coach.

After two bad years, he took a job with the Cardinals, who have been eh.

 

I think with the right team and personnel, he could be a great DC again.

 

I would think they promote from within , better do it before those 2 start poaching positional coaches to make coordinators 

That sucks. 

I don’t wanna hear the excuses the Eagles should have been prepared for the possibility that Gannon could leave. You gotta prepare for everything. If they wind up with a lesser DC, that’s on them.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I don’t wanna hear the excuses the Eagles should have been prepared for the possibility that Gannon could leave. You gotta prepare for everything. If they wind up with a lesser DC, that’s on them.

You can be prepared but still miss out on quality candidates based on timing. You can’t make people wait on other jobs just in case. 

What a cluster F, really.

Gannon saying he's coming back, we somehow hire Fangio to help with offense not defense (why????), we blow the f'ing SB on defense, then Gannon bails and now we're searching.

I hope this played out a lot more sensibly behind the scenes than what it appears on the surface.

 

 

 

38 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I still think it's more likely Howie drafts BPA at #10, and moves back from #30 to recoup a couple of mid-round picks.  What happens during FA will give a better idea, though of where our most glaring needs are.  

Disagree. We will need skill players on rookie contracts once we pay hurts and mayyyyybe davante. Look for RB at 30. Taking in the first round gives you the fifth year option. 

4 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Disagree. We will need skill players on rookie contracts once we pay hurts and mayyyyybe davante. Look for RB at 30. Taking in the first round gives you the fifth year option. 

 

 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Lol. Sheil said the same thing. He did note that Reddick had 10 sacks in his final year there with Joseph. 

That was when he was moved back to edge rusher out of necessity though.  It wasn't by design.

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

If Juan Castillo was our DC in that game instead of Gannon we would be Superbowl champs right now.

47 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I still think it's more likely Howie drafts BPA at #10, and moves back from #30 to recoup a couple of mid-round picks.  What happens during FA will give a better idea, though of where our most glaring needs are.  

Unless there's a glaring stud sitting there at 10, I'd prefer to drop back from 10... get more value and keep the 5th year option for both picks.  Moving back from 30 into the 2nd round means losing that year of flexibility.

NFL teams really are run by idiots. Trade Justin Fields just to draft a less gifted QB with no assurances that they can even accomplish what Fields has already done in the league (which, to be fair, isn’t a whole lot yet).

I’ll say this again, I think Justin Fields can be the best player in football. He is a more gifted passing version of Mike Vick.