1 minute ago, mattwill said:

2023 is not mailed in by any means.  Even with a full turnover on Defense, building around the youthful core players, I expect a no worse record than 11wins and 6 losses and a return to the NFCCG.  And in the process clearing almost all the Void Years prorated bonuses (future Dead Cap).  

Your approach mortgages the future instead of setting up the future for continuous dominance.

JMO

My approach mortgages the future? Not following. I was responding to someone who was saying 2023 is already a lost cause.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Well it definitely was.  But you've always been an apologist for the Jalen haters so no surprise to see this coming from you.

And "giving a crap about the Jalen haters is important? Why is it important?  You seem fixated with your rear view mirror.

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

My approach mortgages the future? Not following. I was responding to someone who was saying 2023 is already a lost cause.

Setting aside that he did NOT say 2023 was a lost cause, what is your plan for accomplishing the 2023 goals you covet?  Start by explaining what those goals are.

25 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

2017 when the Eagles drafted Sidney Jones and Rasul Douglas.  

<WIP>Jones was like a first round pick in the second round</WIP>

BG taking 6 million to stay here speaks volumes for him wanting to finish his career as an Eagle.  
 

He’s taken less money other years but I’m guessing he could have really banked on a one year dear elsewhere after the season he just had.

 

Truly a Philly/Eagles sports hero/legend - right up there with Dawkins & Kelce imo.

 

3 minutes ago, paco said:

<WIP>Jones was like a first round pick in the second round</WIP>

Board was very excited about Jones. Sadly that failed miserably 

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Board was very excited about Jones. Sadly that failed miserably 

No lie, so was I.

13 minutes ago, RLC said:

Slay is still good. Let's not get that twisted.

In first half of seasons

Wonder if there are any names on the trade market Howie could pursue with a high draft pick that no one saw coming. Howie is usually good for at least one rabbit out of a hat trade that no one saw coming and no one knew the guy was available.

Wonder if Tredavious White or Marshon Lattimore could be available.

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

Who the F cares about all the other SB losers? Maybe you missed the part where the NFC sucks arse and will be getting worse with Rodgers going to NY. What team in this conference scares you? The Forty-Whiners? They have no QB. The Cowgirls? They just franchised a RB. The Vikings? They're our beeyotch.

Yes, the defense will probably regress a bit. But considering FA hasn't even started, I'm not throwing in the towel on the season. damn, it's people like you that perpetuate the Negadelphian stereotype.

I don’t think he missed that part at all.  That part makes the timing of biting the bullet and rebuilding the Defense with youth all the more timely.  It is a period where the learning mistakes of youth/rookies has a much more forgiving down side. The rest of the NFC isn’t likely to suck arse for very long.  The Eagles sucked arse in 2020/21 and went to the Super Bowl in 2022/23.

Take the hits when there isn’t anyone there to make you pay handsomely for those hits.

JMO

Pass rush is set for 2023

Graham

Sweat

Barnett

Reddick

Jackson

Robinson

 

I really like Williams and Davis at DT, but we need at least 1 more high volume 3-T to make it a reliable rotation. I still hope we can bring Hargrave back, or maybe Cox on a team friendly deal and draft a guy.

Thats my #1 concern this offseason, more than whatever happens in the secondary. If our Dline isn’t right, then the rest won’t matter

16 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

 

 

Wonder who we we legally tamper with on Monday. I'd assume they have their eyes on a CB or S? Maybe DT?

 

CB- Griffin

LB- Wagner

DE- Floyd or Dupree

Super bowl

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Wonder if there are any names on the trade market Howie could pursue with a high draft pick that no one saw coming. Howie is usually good for at least one rabbit out of a hat trade that no one saw coming and no one knew the guy was available.

Wonder if Tredavious White or Marshon Lattimore could be available.

Ramsey?  Although not out of left field as there has been some speculation

1 hour ago, Thrive said:

As I stated above, 2023 is a wash. And I agree with what Howie is presumably thinking — our offense should (hopefully) peak in 2024-2024 and we should build the defense accordingly. 

I wouldn’t have brought BG back but it sounds like the price was not prohibitive.

 

18 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Setting aside that he did NOT say 2023 was a lost cause, what is your plan for accomplishing the 2023 goals you covet?  Start by explaining what those goals are.

"2023 is a wash”

Im not giving you my goals, you are having enough trouble comprehending my simple point that 2023 is NOT a wash. I’ll let you chew on that for a bit until it resonates.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It might be underwhelming from a FA perspective but bringing Graham back for 1 year and UP TO $6M is great. He's the heart and soul of the defense, it's going to be close to minimal impact on the 2023 cap, and you aren't locked in for multiple years on a guy whose 35. If he still has the juice, he can get another 1 year deal next year. 

So here’s a question for everyone.  If Fletcher Cox could be signed for 1 year and UP TO $6M, would you do it?

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

So here’s a question for everyone.  If Fletcher Cox could be signed for 1 year and UP TO $6M, would you do it?

How many void years?

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I'll bite.

Who should we have drafted last year? Keep in mind that last year's EDGE class was not considered good.

Karlaftis instead of Jordan Davis?

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

The Eagles asked him to hold off until they figure out what to do with Slay. Smart. 

Suggests he is working to get his speed better and also the advantage of controlling his timer and hand timing.  Not a good look. Doesn’t mean that we should put too much stock in running in shorts from a track stance.  With film and computers, the the speed players regularly play with is pretty obvious.  The question is who will be running his drills.  One huge takeaway from the individual drills at the Combine, much like the All Star games, is how a player takes instruction.  

6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I really like Williams and Davis at DT, but we need at least 1 more high volume 3-T to make it a reliable rotation. I still hope we can bring Hargrave back, or maybe Cox on a team friendly deal and draft a guy.

Tuipulotu was playing around 35 or 40 percent of the snaps before he was hurt. So they have three guys. My guess is that if a DT they love falls in their lap they will draft him, but if not i could see them bringing in a cheap vet. I don’t see them bringing Hargrave back. He is going to get paid in free agency, and that comp pick makes losing him a bit more palatable. 

59 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Could've traded back for Karlaftis instead of trading up for Davis for instance. Hindsight is 50/50 so my point is we can't keep kicking it down the road. There are plenty worth taking a shot on this draft.

I agree there are quite a few, but the CBs are better BPAs in Round 1 than the Edges are.  

33 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I have no idea what's being said here, and yet I still got a chuckle out of it ....

Does this mean "it's a new day ... move on"?

That’s close enough.  Good interpretation.

Excited for Graham coming back. If I'm Howie, I'm still looking at CB/Edge in rounds 1/2

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

So here’s a question for everyone.  If Fletcher Cox could be signed for 1 year and UP TO $6M, would you do it?

Yes.  That means we're good at DT and Cox's production last year easily justifies that amount, just like Graham's did.  And always good to keep an Eagles legend around.

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Suggests he is working to get his speed better and also the advantage of controlling his timer and hand timing.  Not a good look. Doesn’t mean that we should put too much stock in running in shorts from a track stance.  With film and computers, the the speed players regularly play with is pretty obvious.  The question is who will be running his drills.  One huge takeaway from the individual drills at the Combine, much like the All Star games, is how a player takes instruction.  

He had a minor hamstring strain at combine and this only a week later.  Even if he didn't I don't put much stock in this stuff anyway. They'll bring him in and be at his workout