24 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Worked with the Eagles 'offense'... 🤔

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Worked with the Eagles 'offense'... 🤔

He helped by scouting Spags defense and ways to attack it 

11 hours ago, blindside said:

I get that White/Edwards weren’t top their LBs this year, but the LBs overall played better than they have in years. I’m not sure starting over fresh in that department is a good idea. 
 

It’s like the "you can find a RB in late rounds” thing. Yes, sure you can. But 25 LBs are drafted each year and while some late round guys end up being good, there’s a lot of late round guys that aren’t. Good players aren’t easily replaced, and neither are even "serviceable” players. Given our likely cap situation, we need to be intentional with our moves and accept the fact that we can no longer have stars at so many positions. Guys who are serviceable and who don’t require huge contracts are guys we need to really think hard about moving on from. I’d rather keep guys like that than guys who over-achieved because of the talent around them. Miles Sanders being one of them. We can’t pay him what some other team will. Isaac probably too. Hargrave will require monster money we can’t afford. It’s not gonna be easy. Our roster is gonna suffer. But the question is, where do we throw the money and draft capital. 

My thoughts on Linebacker are that we have two LBs on the team now who show promise  … Dean and Christian Elliss.  Time will tell if they are fools gold or real gold or something in between.  I like what I have read about Jack Campbell from Iowa as an LB prospect.  His play in the highlight clips made me think of The Mad Stork, Ted Hendricks, but highlight videos only show the best and not the vulnerabilities.  He would only be available if Howie has a ver successful run of trade downs on Draft day.  Given all the 2024 Comp Picks the Eagles are likely to receive, Howie may be willing to trade one or more 2024 picks in order to add a 2023 pick or two.

Regarding our young DTs, in addition to Davis and Williams we also have Noah Elliss who spent the year on the Non-football Injury PUP all season.  He is a NT prospect.

One of the other unknowns is what the future is for Patrick Johnson and Kyron Johnson.

2 minutes ago, Thrive said:

NFL teams really are run by idiots. Trade Justin Fields just to draft a less gifted QB with no assurances that they can even accomplish what Fields has already done in the league (which, to be fair, isn’t a whole lot yet).

I’ll say this again, I think Justin Fields can be the best player in football. He is a more gifted passing version of Mike Vick.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He helped by scouting Spags defense and ways to attack it 

But......why?

Why did we do this when clearly our defense is the side of the ball facing AR and Mahomes?

It makes no sense and now even less sense.  I just assumed they were protecting Gannons ego.  

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yea yea. Folks here also teased me last year when I said Jalen doesn’t have a ceiling.

We need to rethink how we evaluate these QBs and think a bit outside the box. Unlike any other time in history, we can now make great athletes into great passers. Get Justin a great line and great weapons and watch him obliterate records.

4 minutes ago, Thrive said:

Yea yea. Folks here also teased me last year when I said Jalen doesn’t have a ceiling.

We need to rethink how we evaluate these QBs and think a bit outside the box. Unlike any other time in history, we can now make great athletes into great passers. Get Justin a great line and great weapons and watch him obliterate records.

All players have a ceiling.

 

But, your solution to make him the best player in all of football is to surround him with elite talent?  In my book, the greatest player in the entire sport should likely shine without having everything perfect around him.   

2 hours ago, RLC said:

Honestly, the OL wasn't great in the NFCCG/SB. You could see the wear and tear on Dickerson in the SB, especially in the run game.

We had our LG play with a bad elbow and our RT could barely anchor. 

We might be healthier next year.

Available is not the same thing as healthy.

I’ll take the negative side of any bet involving the health of Lane and Dickerson.

12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

But......why?

Why did we do this when clearly our defense is the side of the ball facing AR and Mahomes?

It makes no sense and now even less sense.  I just assumed they were protecting Gannons ego.  

Why what? They brought him in to help point out tendencies or flaws on the KC defense that we could exploit. They didn’t bring him in to help with the defense. 

5 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Let's not forget that the Eagles slot WR isn't going to be a volume guy.  Quez and Pascal had 48 combined catches.  The ball is going to go to Brown, Smith and Goedert.  Trading for Elijah Moore, while I love him as a prospect, would be a mistake. He's already pissed at his role in NY.  He would hate it here being the 4th target. 

I said this a few days back but I think the perfect slot guy for this year, based on cap space, draft picks and roster construction would be to sign DeAndre Carter in FA.  He's going to be 30 but for the role and volume that position is going to get he would be perfect. He had 46 catches for 538 yards and 3 TDs last year for the Chargers.  Nearly 12 yards a pop.  He would also be your PR/KR.  He averaged 12 yards per PR and 20 for KR.  

Another option, albeit a LONG SHOT could be Brittain Covey.  Can he put on 7lbs and get to 180?  He was dynamic as a WR at Utah and he did show some signs of life at PR.  His return in the SB was one of his best of the year.  I would love for the Eagles to have a player who can contribute either on offense or defense be their PR.  Using a roster spot for Covey to JUST be PR is a waste IMO.  He had 33 returns out of the 71 punts the Eagles forced this year.  One roster spot for 77 snaps....no thank you.

 

If you are talking about LONG SHOTS then Devon Allen should probably be in the mix.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Why what? They brought him in to help point out tendencies or flaws on the KC defense that we could exploit. They didn’t bring him in to help with the defense. 

That's what Im asking.....why offense and not defense?  Hes a defensive coach.  Couldnt we have used his help a little more on the defensive side of the ball?  

Lets use that brain of his to get a step ahead of AR rather than helping our offense that didnt need it.  

 

 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

All players have a ceiling.

 

But, your solution to make him the best player in all of football is to surround him with elite talent?  In my book, the greatest player in the entire sport should likely shine without having everything perfect around him.   

I’m still not convinced that Jalen has a ceiling — he’s one of the most gifted athletes I’ve ever seen. He can have the passing prowess of Drew Brees if he wants to. He can also attain the running prowess of Cam Newton if he wants to. It’s actually insane and I’m curious to see which path he ultimately goes down.
 

On your second point, Jalen was arguably the best player in football this year and he was surrounded by elite talent. 

4 hours ago, MillerTime said:

Every starter on offense besides AJ Brown was drafted by the Eagles. This year we need to flip and bring in a veteran RB like Hunt and a veteran who can play slot WR like Landry.

For the draft I’d like to see us go after Joey Porter Jr and one of the DE’s.

When you look at how Rookie RBs succeeded for both the Jets and Texans, I’m not at all convinced that a FA RB is the way to go … especially with the depth and quality of this year’s RB class in the Draft.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If you are talking about LONG SHOTS then Devon Allen should probably be in the mix.

Need a twitchy, athletic guy like Wes Welker for the slot.  Both DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown work quite well at stretching the field vertically.  I think the Eagles need a slot guy to challenge the defense from sideline to sideline and short spaces.

3 minutes ago, Thrive said:

I’m still not convinced that Jalen has a ceiling — he’s one of the most gifted athletes I’ve ever seen. He can have the passing prowess of Drew Brees if he wants to. He can also attain the running prowess of Cam Newton if he wants to. It’s actually insane and I’m curious to see which path he ultimately goes down.
 

On your second point, Jalen was arguably the best player in football this year and he was surrounded by elite talent. 

NVM.  Enjoy your hot take.

 

11 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

(Let me put this out there. Some might not fit what we currently ran under Gannon but if we go outside the organization for DC or change up how we run the defense some guys I’m curious about) A couple free agents some young, some veterans i wouldn’t mind if the eagles decided to look into are:

Cb rock ya sin— had been somewhat disappointment with the colts but was much better with the raiders this year. He’s also 26

LB david long— he’s 25. he is likely gonna be too expensive coming off a breakout year with the titans. Although tends to deal with nagging injuries. If we are gonna spend at LB i think he might long term be better than edwards   

Wr parish Campbell— he’s 25. Eagles were down to him and JJAW a couple years back. He’s injury prone but i could see the eagles looking into him if he’s relatively cheap and he’s capable of being a pretty good slot receiver if he does. 

Wr jarvis Landry— I’m guessing he’d be cheap. He’s not a burner we coild use but in the slot he could be a really nice bargain bin type of guy coming off a injury and not productive year

Cb  Byron Murphy— 25. Was ok this past year. He’s still young and given the right situation i think he could be a nice pickup 

Cb sean bunting— likely too expensive but is young 

cb Emmanuel Moseley— coming off an injury but if he’s healthy he could be a great pickup and still young. 

LB Bobby okereke— 27 and he did a nice job in Leonard’s absence this year for the colts. 

DL Zach Allen— he’s 26. Only had 5.5 sacks for the cardinals this year but i think he could wind up being a good bargain in FA 

DL Dre’mont Jones— i think he winds up being out of the price range but if we let hargrave walk in FA, he’s a nice pickup especially as he’s three years younger. Only concern is he hurt his hip, had surgery and missed the end of the season. 

some others

Kaden Elliss

D’Onta foreman

kareem hunt 

You bring in Kaden Elliss and we would have all three Elliss brothers on the roster. 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Need a twitchy, athletic guy like Wes Welker for the slot.  Both DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown work quite well at stretching the field vertically.  I think the Eagles need a slot guy to challenge the defense from sideline to sideline and short spaces.

Good suggestion 

can those skills come from a second pass catching TE?

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Need a twitchy, athletic guy like Wes Welker for the slot.  Both DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown work quite well at stretching the field vertically.  I think the Eagles need a slot guy to challenge the defense from sideline to sideline and short spaces.

Here’s where I need to be educated a bit: isn’t this supposed to be the role for Goedert? If we think he’s in the Kelce/Kittle level, shouldn’t he be dominating this area of the field? Otherwise, wouldn’t attaining a great slot be a bit redundant?

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Need a twitchy, athletic guy like Wes Welker for the slot.  Both DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown work quite well at stretching the field vertically.  I think the Eagles need a slot guy to challenge the defense from sideline to sideline and short spaces.

Not a bad idea and would complement this offense nicely.

Wes Welker types don’t grow on trees, unfortunately.  But I wouldn’t mind targeting a prospect or even a FA that fits that mold. 

10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

That's what Im asking.....why offense and not defense?  Hes a defensive coach.  Couldnt we have used his help a little more on the defensive side of the ball?  

Lets use that brain of his to get a step ahead of AR rather than helping our offense that didnt need it.  

 

 

Because they thought it would be more of an advantage to help the offense, I don’t know. 

Sirianni always has consultants help with offense. They had Jim Bob Cooter last year. Maybe he’s not the offensive genius some think he is. 

1 minute ago, Thrive said:

Here’s where I need to be educated a bit: isn’t this supposed to be the role for Goedert? If we think he’s in the Kelce/Kittle level, shouldn’t he be dominating this area of the field? Otherwise, wouldn’t attaining a great slot be a bit redundant?

Goedert will do it some plays, but having the slot as described will also allow different stresses on the D for manning purposes.

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You bring in Kaden Elliss and we would have all three Elliss brothers on the roster. 

Brotherly love. It’s a Philly thing

Covey

5 minutes ago, Thrive said:

Here’s where I need to be educated a bit: isn’t this supposed to be the role for Goedert? If we think he’s in the Kelce/Kittle level, shouldn’t he be dominating this area of the field? Otherwise, wouldn’t attaining a great slot be a bit redundant?

This is also true.  Getting a slot guy to fit that role could potentially take targets away from Goedert - who has done a fantastic job at TE and is only getting better. 

3 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

Covey

Lovey

 

 

 

 

 

were playing a rhyming game, right?