2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Hopkins?

 

They have been the team I would think would trade for him the moment it was announced that the Cardinals were trying to trade for him.

4 hours ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

F it double up on corners 

If Slay goes, I'd be all in on Jamel Dean. Then draft one of the top 5 guys (Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Smith, Banks, Porter)

That is pretty much a perfect scenario I think. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Reports of Wentz's issues with coaches and teammates long preceeded the concussion.

But his ability to play the position has changed in a non-linear way over time -- he fell off a cliff. If you pose a causal connection between personality issues that are a consistent factor over the course of his career, it doesn't correlate with the trajectory of his ability to play the position. It could be a confusion of cause and effect in your analysis.

1 hour ago, Next_Up said:

Forbes might have the highest ceiling of the bunch.

Also the highest propensity for blowing over on the field in Chicago. Him and DeVonta standing with Jordan Davis in the middle looks like 101

1 hour ago, Texas Eagle said:

"Against a litany of first-round wide receivers, Porter allowed just 45 yards on 73 coverage snaps across the two games. He erased Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson and Marvin Harrison Jr. on a number of routes as well.”

Yet some have decided to be the smartest person in the room and find some flaw in his game to stand out. 

I like Porter, I just have him ranked as CB4 behind Witherspoon, Gonzalez, and Banks.

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

If Slay goes, I'd be all in on Jamel Dean. Then draft one of the top 5 guys (Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Smith, Banks, Porter)

That is pretty much a perfect scenario I think. 

Absolutely. Dean and Witherspoon would be fantastic.

18 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

I have 8 videos playing and my computer fan sounds like it’s trying to fly away.

In a day or two, I'll be able to see if having 8 playing at once will count as one or as 8 lol. 

I just posted a new 'short', which is (as it's name implies), short:

 

 

29 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Reports were he was always resistant to coaching and why DeFlippo was able to get through to him was that he was a bit of an ahole himself who wouldn't take any crap from Wentz.

One injury does not take someone who has a great work ethic and intangibles and causes them to throw it away.  He always was that person.

Your naïveté is substantial.  Read The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind and Body in the Healing of Trauma.  After you have done so, you may find your perspective on Wentz altered.

How would a hypothetical trade for Ramsey impact the Lions?

Los Angeles would only make a move because they are in great peril with the salary cap. Right now the Rams are roughly $15.7 million over the 2023 salary cap even after the cap went up more than expected. Ramsey costs them $25.2 million in cap room in 2023, $26.7 million in 2024 and $22.7 million in 2025 after a restructuring of the five-year, $100 million deal Ramsey signed at the start of the 2020 season.

 

The salaries are the important part. Ramsey would cost Detroit $17 million in salary in 2023, $5 million of which is guaranteed. The salary drops to $14.5 million in 2024 and $13.5 million in 2025, but there are $4 million roster bonuses in each of those years.

Saw this ^^^ on another website.. Does this mean if we were to trade for Ramsey he'd only cost us $17 million in cap this year, $14.5 in 2024 and $13.5 in 2025?  Seems like incredible value

 

6 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

But his ability to play the position has changed in a non-linear way over time -- he fell off a cliff. If you pose a causal connection between personality issues that are a consistent factor over the course of his career, it doesn't correlate with the trajectory of his ability to play the position. It could be a confusion of cause and effect in your analysis.

 

I don't even get what road you're trying to go down right now.  Point is, Carson with his intangibles and leadership abilities have never been in the same ball park as Hurts.   They have been persistent weaknesses of Wentz that have played a huge part in his downfall.  These were present well before the concussion.

This is why the Cowboys restructured.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Your naïveté is substantial.  Read The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind and Body in the Healing of Trauma.  After you have done so, you may find your perspective on Wentz altered.

Talk naive.  You're winding yourself in a pretzel trying to do mental gymnastics to support your ridiculous belief that the Eagles would be better off trading Hurts.  If Hurts tears his ACL or breaks his leg as you suggested his leadership and intangibles will go right out the window?  Guess that explains why Tom Brady's career went down the tube and teammates considered him a cancer after he tore his ACL in 2008.

33 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Hey look at your post, because there is an example.   Love when someone tries to claim they haven't posted something then spends the rest of their post laying out the exact thing they refuted that they were accused of.

Go to the dictionary and look up the word "alternative.”  If that isn’t too much for your binary brain to handle.

56 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Forbes looks like todd pinkston and a wooden dowel had a kid…

He does… but he’s also likely to get you 5+ INTs a season.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

This is why the Cowboys restructured.

They're really going to give him another contract?

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I don't even get what road you're trying to go down right now.  Point is, Carson with his intangibles and leadership abilities have never been in the same ball park as Hurts.   They have been persistent weaknesses of Wentz that have played a huge part in his downfall.  These were present well before the concussion.

You are an "all roads lead to Hurts" kinda guy. The road I was on was simply debating your assertion that Wentz's decline is due to his personality. You don't know that and the evidence points to other factors. There is a Mark Twain quote that begins with "Never" and ends with "experience." Look it up and you will understand why I am ending my side of this discussion.

1 hour ago, Texas Eagle said:

I could get behind something like this

 

or

In the first one, if you could get Achane instead of Perry and take a receiver instead of McBride that would be pretty damn good.

Second one, don’t think I’d look at Tomlinson since we take 2 corners early and have Maddox. Maybe look OL there.

lol

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Talk naive.  You're winding yourself in a pretzel trying to do mental gymnastics to support your ridiculous belief that the Eagles would be better off trading Hurts.  If Hurts tears his ACL or breaks his leg as you suggested his leadership and intangibles will go right out the window?  Guess that explains why Tom Brady's career went down the tube and teammates considered him a cancer after he tore his ACL in 2008.

Not my belief at all.  I don’t have enough factual information to have a belief.  It is simply one of many alternatives in the decision tree.  

Brady’s game did not change after 2008.  It did not have to change.  Brady wasn’t a running QB who puts his body at risk 10 times as frequently like Hurts does. We all saw what happened to Brady when he had to run … as a receiver.  It was comical, but it wasn’t a core part of his production/execution as a QB.  Running with the ball is a core part of Hurts’ production/execution as a QB.  His risk profile is significantly higher than Brady’s.

Hurts’ intangibles aren’t likely to go out the window, but the games he misses while on IR will indeed go out the window.

5 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

You are an "all roads lead to Hurts" kinda guy. The road I was on was simply debating your assertion that Wentz's decline is due to his personality. You don't know that and the evidence points to other factors. There is a Mark Twain quote that begins with "Never" and ends with "experience." Look it up and you will understand why I am ending my side of this discussion.

 

Dude, you jumped in the middle of a conversation that was about Hurts and the Matt argued a reason to not sign Hurts is he could get injured and fall off like Wentz.  "All roads lead to Hurts", no the road was already a Hurts road when you decided to jump in the middle of it.  Glad you're ending your side of the discussion because you're clueless.

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Go to the dictionary and look up the word "alternative.”  If that isn’t too much for your binary brain to handle.

Matt, you are wasting your time.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Does not sound nearly tough enough with that name.  

13 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Go to the dictionary and look up the word "alternative.”  If that isn’t too much for your binary brain to handle.

 

I could have sex with a woman or the alternative of a horse.  But just because the horse is an alternative doesn't at all make it in anyway or form at all a reasonable alternative to the woman. 

You keep trying to argue for trading Hurts when it is no reasonable alternative to signing him.  The Eagles are in an incredible position going forward simply because they have Hurts.  They have a 24 year old QB that is BY FAR the best QB in the NFC.  He is at worst the 3rd best QB in the league.  He has already shown he can win in the playoffs.  He has already shown that he can play lights out on the biggest stage.  Re-signing him is the only option.  There is no reasonable alternative.

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Not my belief at all.  I don’t have enough factual information to have a belief.  It is simply one of many alternatives in the decision tree.  

Brady’s game did not change after 2008.  It did not have to change.  Brady wasn’t a running QB who puts his body at risk 10 times as frequently like Hurts does. We all saw what happened to Brady when he had to run … as a receiver.  It was comical, but it wasn’t a core part of his production/execution as a QB.  Running with the ball is a core part of Hurts’ production/execution as a QB.  His risk profile is significantly higher than Brady’s.

Hurts’ intangibles aren’t likely to go out the window, but the games he misses while on IR will indeed go out the window.

At the end of this Twilight Zone episode, you will look in the mirror and see Downundermike staring back at you.

Just now, NCiggles said:

Does not sound nearly tough enough with that name.