1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

Leaving aside a serious discussion of Jalen Hurts or the Eagles,  I'm looking to a full QB room,  filled with running QBs like Jalen Hurts.  Running QBs who are not as good as Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson,  but better than Minshew or Tyler Huntley.

The Eagles have - Tyree Jackson, Greg Ward, Britain Covey - former running QBs who are playing another position.

Running QBs who Brian Johnson coached who are too expensive right now - Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson.

Running QBs who Brian Johnson coached who aren't too expensive - D'eriq King, Nick Fitzgerald (retired?), Emory Jones (still in college).

There are even more running QBs who aren't too expensive who could be added to this list.  Dorian Thompson-   , Malik Cunningham - day 3 in this years draft.

So, you put in a rotating set of QBs,  with the goal of having a stocked roster of running QBs,  and none of them are pushed forward into the "do well and get $50 Million a year" class.  You want to avoid that and not encourage that.  None are expensive,  all are replaceable, and none is the real starter.

Running QBs are best.  And one of the reasons why they're best is because QBs don't get better and better at running over the course of years.  They have fresh legs coming out of college and they can run and win right away.  Lamar went 6-1 in his rookie season.  He hasn't gotten better than that.  But 6-1 is really good, and he goes to the playoffs when he isn't hurt. 

The thing about the Eagles, and the Ravens, is that Hurts and Jackson are just too good.  They're not generic players, they're not replaceable,  fans, the locker room and the football gods would be pissed if they were to go.

Except you showed how they are entirely replaceable inside your own argument…

running qbs are for making bad tesms relevant. Not winning titles

5 hours ago, TEW said:

But his slow 40 isn’t what E45 is looking for… Dell is more quick than fast.

and punt returner isn't kick returner.  Covey actually did do well at punt returner. 

8 minutes ago, TEW said:

It’s the sample size we have, and he didn’t. So let’s stop pretending he did.

And he didn’t when he was on a rookie deal with an all-star team around him. He will have less talent around him moving forward.

The biggest worry for us is can Hurts play like this consistently? KC competes every year with a lot of revolving pieces on offense outside of mahomes and kelce, and their defense is never really anything special (they gave up 35 points to us).

If hurts can play like he did this year and we keep Smith or AJ (preferably smith) and they can continue to play at an elite level as well and produce a top 3 offense year in and year out we can win a super bowl. These days you just need a defense that can make one play (or be given a gift, in KC's case in the super bowl). 

If they can load up on defense in this draft and actually hit, the window is open for another couple of years even with a hurts extension.

Last year, I did an incredible job predicting the eagles free agent signings. Nailed the exact guys they brought in beforehand.

I dont feel quite as confident this year. There are many more options. And its not clear to me just how much money they are going to spend. Are they going to keep a few of their own big ticket guys? Are they going to replace them with other expensive younger options? Or are they going to let them go and try to go cheap? No idea. Theres conflicting reports now on Gardner-Johnson and Bradberry. For weeks we have expected both to walk. Now, the eagles seem to have a chance to keep them again. Is Slay going to be here or not?

Its not going to be as impressive as last year where I really just listed just a few names and nailed them. This one is going to have more layers and hedge my bets a bit more.

Anyway, heres my shot at it.

 

QB- Minshew, or if he leaves- Brissett

RB- Gaskin replaces Scott. Still good as a receiver, but adds a bit more power, and maybe Mattison, if Sanders leaves. Excellent #2 back. Will look to replace Sander's starting role in the draft.

WR- I can see Howie swinging his D and making a big splash here to add to the already potent offense. Putting fear in DCs across the league. What is the big swing though? They either do it out of the gates with a guy like Chark, or Lazzard. Or they go cheaper to begin with with a guy like Hollins, and then sign Odell Beckham later, after he is on the market for a few weeks. I can just see the swagger on offfense wiith Hurts, Brown, and Beckham in the slot. So much swag.

TE- This is out of left field. Maybe they dont go crazy at WR at all. Maybe they just quietly retain Paschal for cheap. Because maybe they want a great 2nd TE. If thats the case, Its Gesicki. Hes not a blocker at all, but Stout can work some magic there. Otherwise, can you imagine, the way Hurts doesnt mind throwing to his big WR in double coverage down field- can you imagine a 6'7'' TE who can go up and get it? With Hurts giving him those opportunities- potent.

OG- Im not sure we do anything here at free agency. But if we do, its Nate Davis.  Hes only 26 years old. And his sportrac predictided value is 7.4M as compared to Seumalo at over 12M.

DE- Graham is back. Barnett is fortunately/unfortunately back. I dont see us making a move here. Saving it for the draft. There are solid depth pieces to add, but I think we pass.

DT- theres just nothing here. Its Cox returning or bust. Likely just saving it for the draft.

LB- Replacing Edwards, I really feel like theyll bring in one of the cut vets here to lead alongside young Dean. Wagner or Kendricks. But darkhorse, breakout star candidate- Kaden Elliss. Young. Should still be pretty cheap. Lines up everywhere. Rushes the passer. You want simulated pressure with this new LB coach, you want more games and stunts with Dessai, this guy along with Reddick in the same LB corps will be a nightmare for QBs.  If White also leaves, he will be replaced by Elandon Roberts.

CB- I really have no idea what we are doing here. Could keep both. Could lose both. Could keep one or the other. I dont know if we will sign anyone or not. If we do, we are going to want Griffin. Relatively young. Cut so doesnt take away the comp pick. Not the top dollar free agent out there. Fairly expensive, but cheaper than retaining our guys. If we cant get him, Cameron Sutton is plan B. We did well with Nelson from Pitt 2 years ago. We will go to that well again. Lastly, you cant ignore the rumor of relationship and interest in Patrick Peterson.

S- Im kinda feeling we find a way to keep Gardner-Johnson. If not Taylor Rapp. 25 years old with solid production. Sportrac predicts 10M AVG for Rapp. Thats cheaper than Gardner-Johnson and a very legit replacement.  If Epps also leaves, Julian Love. Probably the most productive pending free agent safety in this years class. Only 24 years old. Somehow sportrac only predicts 7.5M for him. Plan B is Vonn Bell. Hes ok in zone coverage, but more along the lines of the SS type like Epps is. Seems like he should be older but stil only 28. Not bad.

 

Good post.

As a follow up to my long, excellent post above, Kaden Elliss is not yet a household name so I want to make sure people get acquainted. No doubt the eagles know who he is because the last 3 plays of the vid are against them. He had a big game when the Saints beat Minshew. 

 

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Last year, I did an incredible job predicting the eagles free agent signings. Nailed the exact guys they brought in beforehand.

I dont feel quite as confident this year. There are many more options. And its not clear to me just how much money they are going to spend. Are they going to keep a few of their own big ticket guys? Are they going to replace them with other expensive younger options? Or are they going to let them go and try to go cheap? No idea. Theres conflicting reports now on Gardner-Johnson and Bradberry. For weeks we have expected both to walk. Now, the eagles seem to have a chance to keep them again. Is Slay going to be here or not?

Its not going to be as impressive as last year where I really just listed just a few names and nailed them. This one is going to have more layers and hedge my bets a bit more.

Anyway, heres my shot at it.

 

QB- Minshew, or if he leaves- Brissett

RB- Gaskin replaces Scott. Still good as a receiver, but adds a bit more power, and maybe Mattison, if Sanders leaves. Excellent #2 back. Will look to replace Sander's starting role in the draft.

WR- I can see Howie swinging his D and making a big splash here to add to the already potent offense. Putting fear in DCs across the league. What is the big swing though? They either do it out of the gates with a guy like Chark, or Lazzard. Or they go cheaper to begin with with a guy like Hollins, and then sign Odell Beckham later, after he is on the market for a few weeks. I can just see the swagger on offfense wiith Hurts, Brown, and Beckham in the slot. So much swag.

TE- This is out of left field. Maybe they dont go crazy at WR at all. Maybe they just quietly retain Paschal for cheap. Because maybe they want a great 2nd TE. If thats the case, Its Gesicki. Hes not a blocker at all, but Stout can work some magic there. Otherwise, can you imagine, the way Hurts doesnt mind throwing to his big WR in double coverage down field- can you imagine a 6'7'' TE who can go up and get it? With Hurts giving him those opportunities- potent.

OG- Im not sure we do anything here at free agency. But if we do, its Nate Davis.  Hes only 26 years old. And his sportrac predictided value is 7.4M as compared to Seumalo at over 12M.

DE- Graham is back. Barnett is fortunately/unfortunately back. I dont see us making a move here. Saving it for the draft. There are solid depth pieces to add, but I think we pass.

DT- theres just nothing here. Its Cox returning or bust. Likely just saving it for the draft.

LB- Replacing Edwards, I really feel like theyll bring in one of the cut vets here to lead alongside young Dean. Wagner or Kendricks. But darkhorse, breakout star candidate- Kaden Elliss. Young. Should still be pretty cheap. Lines up everywhere. Rushes the passer. You want simulated pressure with this new LB coach, you want more games and stunts with Dessai, this guy along with Reddick in the same LB corps will be a nightmare for QBs.  If White also leaves, he will be replaced by Elandon Roberts.

CB- I really have no idea what we are doing here. Could keep both. Could lose both. Could keep one or the other. I dont know if we will sign anyone or not. If we do, we are going to want Griffin. Relatively young. Cut so doesnt take away the comp pick. Not the top dollar free agent out there. Fairly expensive, but cheaper than retaining our guys. If we cant get him, Cameron Sutton is plan B. We did well with Nelson from Pitt 2 years ago. We will go to that well again. Lastly, you cant ignore the rumor of relationship and interest in Patrick Peterson.

S- Im kinda feeling we find a way to keep Gardner-Johnson. If not Taylor Rapp. 25 years old with solid production. Sportrac predicts 10M AVG for Rapp. Thats cheaper than Gardner-Johnson and a very legit replacement.  If Epps also leaves, Julian Love. Probably the most productive pending free agent safety in this years class. Only 24 years old. Somehow sportrac only predicts 7.5M for him. Plan B is Vonn Bell. Hes ok in zone coverage, but more along the lines of the SS type like Epps is. Seems like he should be older but stil only 28. Not bad.

 

Good post.

Ok. 

1. Did you really compliment your own post? 

2. I just looked up the FA safeties and it’s no wonder CJGJ might not be back. There are a lot of pretty FAs who will be much cheaper. Amos, Adderley, Ward, etc. 

2 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

Leaving aside a serious discussion of Jalen Hurts or the Eagles,  I'm looking to a full QB room,  filled with running QBs like Jalen Hurts.  Running QBs who are not as good as Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson,  but better than Minshew or Tyler Huntley.

The Eagles have - Tyree Jackson, Greg Ward, Britain Covey - former running QBs who are playing another position.

Running QBs who Brian Johnson coached who are too expensive right now - Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson.

Running QBs who Brian Johnson coached who aren't too expensive - D'eriq King, Nick Fitzgerald (retired?), Emory Jones (still in college).

There are even more running QBs who aren't too expensive who could be added to this list.  Dorian Thompson-   , Malik Cunningham - day 3 in this years draft.

So, you put in a rotating set of QBs,  with the goal of having a stocked roster of running QBs,  and none of them are pushed forward into the "do well and get $50 Million a year" class.  You want to avoid that and not encourage that.  None are expensive,  all are replaceable, and none is the real starter.

Running QBs are best.  And one of the reasons why they're best is because QBs don't get better and better at running over the course of years.  They have fresh legs coming out of college and they can run and win right away.  Lamar went 6-1 in his rookie season.  He hasn't gotten better than that.  But 6-1 is really good, and he goes to the playoffs when he isn't hurt. 

The thing about the Eagles, and the Ravens, is that Hurts and Jackson are just too good.  They're not generic players, they're not replaceable,  fans, the locker room and the football gods would be pissed if they were to go.

Your obsession with mediocre running QBs is beyond tiresome. 

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

Richardson should go at 1/1.

Cool story, Mike Mayock. 

31 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok. 

1. Did you really compliment your own post? 

2. I just looked up the FA safeties and it’s no wonder CJGJ might not be back. There are a lot of pretty FAs who will be much cheaper. Amos, Adderley, Ward, etc. 

1. Hell yes.

2. There are, and you didnt really name any of them. Adderly is just kinda ok. Ward is almost 32, and Amos is older and already on the decline. The guys I mentioned are the best options, still cheaper than Gardner-Johnson. He also has to contend with Bates. Hell, maybe we even get Bates slightly cheaper. Theres also Thornhill. The other rams safety Scott is solid. I said it a bunch of times that Im not concerned about losing CGJ at all because there are tons of options there to adequately fill the position. Donovan Wilson is also really excellent but maybe too much of an in the box guy. But the FA safety market is pretty loaded.

4 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

4.49 is slow these days…

I think the Eagles should draft a piece of pure top speed 40 and electric 10 split.

There is no need at all for the Eagles to draft a WR.  The Eagles almost won the Super Bowl with Brown, Smith and Goedert doing most of the pass catching and they're all back next year.  Quez is supposed to be back. 

The Eagles are losing 2 RBs and 1 QB. 

I think that a RB that runs very fast would fit that.  The Eagles do need 2 RBs, and Achane with 4.32 40 and 1.51 10 split, RB, would work for that.

The Eagles have Covey, I thought he did well, I don't see any reason to replace him, and he's a small, quick slot with a good 3 cone.  Like the normal type of quick slot.  His 40 ain't great,  but you put him on a field to a thing, and he could get open for short passes using his quickness.

The Slot isn't really a fixed position on the field.  You could not have that.  Typically, teams sometimes have that.  But slot or WR3 replaces positions like TE2 or FB.  There are some who don't necessarily want WR3 on the field when there could be TE2.  I tend to think of the slot as a spot for a versatile weapon.  The Eagles already have X, Z, and TE - all star pass catchers.   They don't need more.

TE, X, Z, QB - 4 positions taken care of.

Need 2 more.   I'd call them  Running Back and Versatile Weapon. 
Versatile Weapon could do some of  Catching, Running, Blocking and/or Throwing.

The Eagles have a lot of players who could be on the field as a versatile weapon.  Tyree Jackson, run, catch, block, throw.  Britain Covey, catching, running, throwing.  So many of the oline are freakbeasts with positional versatility.  I was calling for Cam Jurgens a lot last year.  Top Tight End,  4 Espn, coming out of high school and he ran the ball a lot.  Block, run, catch.  You can see him running and catching in high school.  If he's not starting, he could do this.  All the starting OL are freakbeasts and if the Eagles could move someone into their OL spot for a play they could take the versatile weapon spot.  

So, as I see it, there shouldn't be some "slot" position,  but a "versatile weapon" who would line up in any number of spots.   With Quez, plus Jackson and Covey, and anyone else the Eagles might want to use from the OL or even DL, plus RBs who might be very fast, able to stretch the field, the position seems largely covered.  Add in a QB3 that the Eagles might draft like Dorian Thompson-Robinson UCLA or Malik Cunningham Louisville - both with 1.51 10 splits.  

Ok, so, don't need to get a new wr to play slot.

But the Eagles need 2 new RBs.   RB to run decoy routes deep to stretch the defense.  Achane.  And you want Achane for things like outside runs.  Read option Hurts inside and Achane outside.  Seems good with a 4.32 / 1.51 running back.  He's a first half running back, make huge plays and the Eagles get the lead.   But if there is some guy with the same numbers runs a pro day in 2 weeks and he's cheaper, I like him too..  4.32/1.51 is something I like.   

And I really like Roschon Johnson who is a Jalen Clone physically,  and a convert to RB from QB.  About 3  94 for him.   Jalen handing to another Jalen.  sounds good.  Things like pass protection would be something he'd be good at, pretty much everything, running with power, catching passes, even throwing passes maybe, but he doesn't run 4.32/1.51.   It seems to me that a Jalen clone would be someone that you'd want as long as Jalen is there, and someone that wouldn't be easy to find, but someone who wouldn't be that expensive.  Useful, rare, not expensive. 

Got a bunch of Stephen King wannabes in here writing novels 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think it was the third time seeing that movie I finally noticed the one guy acknowledged him

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

QB- Minshew, or if he leaves- Brissett.

I agree … good post some thoughts about your thoughts.  I don’t expect Minshew back.  Bringing him back would not be forward-looking, and I suspect "onward and upward” will be the theme of this season.  Brisket is a bit better match to Hurts’ style of play.  Book was retained for a reason.  I expect he will be QB2 and Howie will fill QB3 and QB4 from the college ranks.  Dorian Thompson-Robinson may well be one.  

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RB- Gaskin replaces Scott. Still good as a receiver, but adds a bit more power, and maybe Mattison, if Sanders leaves. Excellent #2 back. Will look to replace Sander's starting role in the draft.

Like with QB the Eagles chose to retain Sermon.  He could have been cut but wasn’t.  He is my Scott replacement.  Jahmyr Gibbs is the one player in the Draft who would move the RB corps "onward and upward”  Sanders starting role will go to Gainwell in my opinion.  Plays with both Gainwell and Gibbs in the backfield with both being able to motion into the slot would really put the opposing Defenses in a bind, never knowing beforehand which one of the two will go into motion.

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WR- I can see Howie swinging his D and making a big splash here to add to the already potent offense. Putting fear in DCs across the league. What is the big swing though? They either do it out of the gates with a guy like Chark, or Lazzard. Or they go cheaper to begin with with a guy like Hollins, and then sign Odell Beckham later, after he is on the market for a few weeks. I can just see the swagger on offfense wiith Hurts, Brown, and Beckham in the slot. So much swag.

I don’t think they have the cap space to get any of those veteran players.  I expect WR to get some infusion from the Draft … Derius Davis is a Day Three possibility.

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TE- This is out of left field. Maybe they dont go crazy at WR at all. Maybe they just quietly retain Paschal for cheap. Because maybe they want a great 2nd TE. If thats the case, Its Gesicki. Hes not a blocker at all, but Stout can work some magic there. Otherwise, can you imagine, the way Hurts doesnt mind throwing to his big WR in double coverage down field- can you imagine a 6'7'' TE who can go up and get it? With Hurts giving him those opportunities- potent

Paschal will probably rejoin Frank Reich, so your Gesicki idea is interesting if the price is right.  Sam Laporta is a name in the Draft to remember if Howie can add more picks.  Calcaterra in year 2 should be much better than in year 1.

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OG- Im not sure we do anything here at free agency. But if we do, its Nate Davis.  Hes only 26 years old. And his sportrac predictided value is 7.4M as compared to Seumalo at over 12M

I agree.  Nothing here in Free Agency, with the one exception being one more year of Kelce, if that happens.

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DE- Graham is back. Barnett is fortunately/unfortunately back. I dont see us making a move here. Saving it for the draft. There are solid depth pieces to add, but I think we pass.

DT- theres just nothing here. Its Cox returning or bust. Likely just saving it for the draft.

Agreed here too.  Howie will also keep Suh’s and Joseph’s phone numbers.  Elliss brother #1 is in the mix at DT/NT … Noah.

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LB- Replacing Edwards, I really feel like theyll bring in one of the cut vets here to lead alongside young Dean. Wagner or Kendricks. But darkhorse, breakout star candidate- Kaden Elliss. Young. Should still be pretty cheap. Lines up everywhere. Rushes the passer. You want simulated pressure with this new LB coach, you want more games and stunts with Dessai, this guy along with Reddick in the same LB corps will be a nightmare for QBs.  If White also leaves, he will be replaced by Elandon Roberts

I like your approach here.  Wagner and Kaden Elliss would be good additions that Howie can afford.  That would give us Elliss brothers #2 and #3 … Kaden and Christian.  

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CB - I really have no idea what we are doing here. Could keep both. Could lose both. Could keep one or the other. I dont know if we will sign anyone or not. If we do, we are going to want Griffin. Relatively young. Cut so doesnt take away the comp pick. Not the top dollar free agent out there. Fairly expensive, but cheaper than retaining our guys. If we cant get him, Cameron Sutton is plan B. We did well with Nelson from Pitt 2 years ago. We will go to that well again. Lastly, you cant ignore the rumor of relationship and interest in Patrick Peterson

This is where the "onward and upward” forward-looking mantra will be most felt.  Bradberry is not coming back in my opinion. Double dipping in the Draft for 2 CBS in Day 1/2 is what I expect.  It might end up being Banks and Forbes if neither Gonzalez or Witherspoon are available. Jakorian Bennett is a Day 3 possibility as well.  That doesn’t mean your Griffin and Sutton possibilities are not also in the mix, but I expect they will only be one year deals if they sign.

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S- Im kinda feeling we find a way to keep Gardner-Johnson. If not Taylor Rapp. 25 years old with solid production. Sportrac predicts 10M AVG for Rapp. Thats cheaper than Gardner-Johnson and a very legit replacement.  If Epps also leaves, Julian Love. Probably the most productive pending free agent safety in this years class. Only 24 years old. Somehow sportrac only predicts 7.5M for him. Plan B is Vonn Bell. Hes ok in zone coverage, but more along the lines of the SS type like Epps is. Seems like he should be older but stil only 28. Not bad

My preference here is to move Maddox into the centerfield Safety role.  I don’t believe CJGJ will re-sign here when the dust settles. I also believe Epps is not that much of an upgrade over Blankenship.  Rapp sounds good, but I don’t believe Howie can fit in $10 million.  Recently cut Harrison Smith on a vet minimum one year contract is also an option.

 

2 hours ago, Utebird said:

The last time Britain Covey played QB was in high school.

He was a WR/KR/PR in college.

That's like saying Lane Johnson a former Running QB playing another position🤔

Yes, also put Lane Johnson in that versatile mix.

Philly Special is one of the things the Eagles are known for.

Britain Covey was undefeated and won the state championship his last 2 years in high school.  I don't think he lost at all.  

With these players, we're not asking them to be the starting QB, we're seeing if they can throw.   Determine if the player can do the thing before calling the play. 

And Britain Covey's passer rating in College at Utah, where OC Brian Johnson went to college, was 518.8,  3 of 3 with 2 TDs.  And he threw those passes in the same year.  He could have thrown more and he can throw in the NFL.

But I would say that Covey isn't a versatile freakbeast for that spot.  It doesn't appear that he has a huge arm, able to do everything.   He could turn out to be an adequate slot on a team that has 3 star pass catchers and doesn't really need another. 

The top versatile freakbeast for that versatile weapon / slot position is Tyree Jackson.  I think by now he should be good, and if he's healthy, have him get a lot of snaps doing that.   Catching and blocking like a TE and running and passing like a QB.  He was in the Bills camp as a QB.  He would be a great red zone pass catching threat at 6'7.  RAS as QB - 9.94 RAS as TE - 9.82.   Cannon of an arm.  Regularly threw 50-60 yard tds in college.  same speed as Jalen 4.59.    So,  I do understand the difference between Covey and Jackson. 
 

 

4 hours ago, Utebird said:

The last time Britain Covey played QB was in high school.

He was a WR/KR/PR in college.

That's like saying Lane Johnson a former Running QB playing another position🤔

 

4 hours ago, devpool said:

Richardson is awful, he shouldn't have come out this year. He's projected to go high because he's a freak athlete, you don't pick a project at one at a position where 90% of the game is mental.

Whoever drafts him is in for a hell of a time, he couldn't even dominate with his physical tools at the college level. 

it could be argued that he shouldn't have come out.  But he still goes #1.

Jalen Hurts took the Eagles to the Super Bowl and a big part of that was his running.  Running QBs are Best.  

When you have a QB who is 244 pounds and runs a 4.43 40, you can crank the running to max and win.  The Eagles didn't put Hurts in in 2020 and have his running cranked to max and they were 1-3 in those games.  In 2018, the Ravens were 4-5, they put Lamar in, cranked the running to max, they went 6-1 and went to the playoffs.  A QB who is 244 and 4.43, running often,  will likely win more often than otherwise.  The throwing is a mystery, I guess they'd throw less if he's bad at it, but they can have him run a lot and win.   Lamar's passer rating in 2018 was 84.5.  

We don't know who of the top QB picks is going to be the best thrower in the NFL.  That's all guessing.  But we do know that Anthony Richardsons size and speed and ras and sparq are the best.  Not only this year but maybe ever.  So,  if you're looking for the best size and speed and ras and sparq, you're going to trade up to 1.  If you're a team that had their best success with Cam Newton,  you might be looking for a Cam Newton who is as fast as Lamar Jackson.

I'm one of the ones who want versatile freak beasts.  He's a 10 RAS at QB,  at WR, at RB.  I'd want him for the Eagles, he can play slot, or versatile weapon.  QB star, 3 pass catching stars, and that guy over there, versatile weapon, he can catch a short pass and then run.  Or a lateral and then throw. Read option with Jalen. 

Brian Johnson was his Offensive Coordinator and QB Coach at Florida before Philly.
The last game was the Cotton Bowl.  Last drive was Anthony Richardson at QB.  Run 10 times or so, then TD pass. 
 

 

4 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Your obsession with mediocre running QBs is beyond tiresome. 

Cool story, Mike Mayock. 

get used to it

Here's D'eriq King in 2017 with Houston.
He started the year at WR and then midyear switched to QB.

Eagles OC Brian Johnson was his OC at Houston.   A good video to look at because it's not only King but a Brian Johnson offense, there might be some things there that we might see with the Eagles.

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

I suspect that TEW’s point is that Hurts produced a net of 28 points.

Exactly.

I might feel a little bit different if Hurts was under assault all game long, took multiple hits, and came up just short.

The fact is that Hurts made an unforced error that cost us a TD. He played a great game aside from that that play, but ultimately that play happened and of the ~120 plays per game, it’s usually about 5 to 10 that actually decide the game.

That was one of them.

8 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

Looking at PFF, Jordan Davis had a 72.6 PFF grade.  25/126 DIs, as a rookie.   I'd say that's good.  You have one who is top 1/5, not sure where you're getting below average from.  Milton Williams was just behind Davis.  72.2  27/126 DIs.  That looks like top 1/4 tandem. 

I could care less what PFF says. Davis missed a lot of time and didn't play that good when he came back. They had to bring in two guys sitting on their couch to rescue the position. Williams is ok, but he's no Hargrave. Perfect world he's more the 3rd DT being rotated in. 

27 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I could care less what PFF says. Davis missed a lot of time and didn't play that good when he came back. They had to bring in two guys sitting on their couch to rescue the position. Williams is ok, but he's no Hargrave. Perfect world he's more the 3rd DT being rotated in. 

PFF is where folks go to defend a player that they can't defend any other way.   It was one year, and he has 4 left on his rookie contract.  We can hope that a year under his belt in the NFL will lead to better things for the future.  But, if the production that they got from him this year is what we get moving forward, that was a terrible draft choice.   There's time to turn it around, but at this point, the highest grade Davis should get is an "I".  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

PFF is where folks go to defend a player that they can't defend any other way.   It was one year, and he has 4 left on his rookie contract.  We can hope that a year under his belt in the NFL will lead to better things for the future.  But, if the production that they got from him this year is what we get moving forward, that was a terrible draft choice.   There's time to turn it around, but at this point, the highest grade Davis should get is an "I".  

I do think that DT is weak this year in both FA and the draft, at least at the top. If we're not signing Dre'Mont Jones, which we are probably not, there's not much else there. Poona Ford, Larry Ogunjobi? Maybe you can get a solid player like this on a short term deal, see how Davis and Williams look, then probably attack the position next year.

In the draft there's Carter with his off the field problems and who else? Cancey is a pure pass rusher which could be fun and I would t mind grabbing, but he's not a prime Cox or Hargrave. I would rather not force feed earlier draft picks on mediocrity like Mazi Smith, Gervon Dexter type players. I'd rather mid rounders Zacch Pickens and Colby Wooden.  

22 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I do think that DT is weak this year in both FA and the draft, at least at the top. If we're not signing Dre'Mont Jones, which we are probably not, there's not much else there. Poona Ford, Larry Ogunjobi? Maybe you can get a solid player like this on a short term deal, see how Davis and Williams look, then probably attack the position next year.

In the draft there's Carter with his off the field problems and who else? Cancey is a pure pass rusher which could be fun and I would t mind grabbing, but he's not a prime Cox or Hargrave. I would rather not force feed earlier draft picks on mediocrity like Mazi Smith, Gervon Dexter type players. I'd rather mid rounders Zacch Pickens and Colby Wooden.  

See i like Smith and Dexter as options and think they fit what we like, but Desai may want something a little different

Jordan Davis was highly unlikely to be an impact player in year 1, regardless of where he was picked.  Especially when 2 vets got signed while he was injured and took snaps away from him.

This year though. Fewer excuses and barriers to playing tome. He lost weight in the season and has the time in the off season to work on his technique.

13 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

See i like Smith and Dexter as options and think they fit what we like, but Desai may want something a little different

I think they're "ok", I don't see enough to the play we are used to is all. Then using a 2nd rounder on them on top of it is where I'm out.  I'd rather get Pickens and/or Wooden who would be there later.