https://fb.watch/iIYN68x-v6/?mibextid=NnVzG8

30 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Vance Joseph is the name I like most so far. Dennard Wilson is second.

I am not sold on Joseph. I would rather go with Wilson.  

19 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The field had more to do with them not giving up any sacks than they did.

Tough to get sacks when the defensive rusher can't plant and turn the corner.

This Chiefs team are showing to be a bunch of Ass hats 

When the eagles won in 2017 i don't remember them trolling the pats or any other team, show some class, I can't wait til next year in a field that isn't covered in oil.

The field was an issue.  Zero doubt there.

 

I would like to know though (if anyone has the stats) how fast  was Mahomes getting the ball out (while in the pocket)? 

13 minutes ago, Utebird said:

https://fb.watch/iIYN68x-v6/?mibextid=NnVzG8

For those that are afraid of clicking on this, I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post it differently 

It's a video talking about the Sod Father, who has done the sod for every super bowl including this one, he's a chiefs fan.

Alleges that chiefs had knowledge before hand about the turf as they didn't ever change cleats and the Eagles players changed cleats multiple times 

Also a guy charted how many times each team had a player on defense slip and also multiple players slip on same play from same team. 

Eagles players slipped on 38% of plays and had multiple, multiple player slips on same play.

Chiefs players had 14% of players where a player slipped and no multiple players slipped plays 

Add it all up that the super bowl was sponsored by state farm and Mahommes and Reid are state farm spokesman, combine that with a shoddy call from a ref who the chiefs have a substantial winning record compared to a losing record under that same ref for the eagles and it seems the eagles had a lot more to over come than just the chiefs.

I said it two days ago that the field negatively affected the eagles more than the chiefs, a also posed if the NFL had done so on purpose , now the question should be did the grounds keeper do it on purpose because he's a chiefs fan?

Well likely never know, fieldgate won't ever be a thing and if it was the league would immediately bury it and burn the evidence to save face.

Either way that field was an embarrassment for a multi billion dollar Industry and it's sad that it seemingly negatively affected the eagles play more than the chiefs 

32 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

In fairness to them, you couldn’t watch anything related to the Super Bowl in the weeks prior without someone talking about our 70+ sacks and "the vaunted Eagles D Line”. 

100%. They are entitled to dog us relentlessly.  We S'd a bag of Ds.  

2 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Buddy sent me this which I thought was pretty wild. All championship games that Philadelphia teams have been in for pretty much the past 50 years have been against dynasty teams/franchises, not necessarily one-off surprises like the Eagles were this year:

• '76 Flyers lost to Montreal who won four Cups in a row
• '80 Flyers lost to Islanders who won four Cups in a row
• '82 Sixers lost to the 80s Lakers (got them back in '83)
• '85 and '87 Flyers lost to Edmonton who won five Cups in seven years
• '93 Phillies lost to Toronto who won back to back World Series
• '97 Flyers lost to Detroit who won three Cups in six years
• '01 Sixers lost to Shaq/Kobe Lakers who won three straight
• '04 Eagles lost to Brady/Belichick Pats who won three Super Bowls in four years at the time
• '09 Phillies lost to the Yankees
• '10 Flyers lost to Chicago who won three Cups in six years
• '22 Phillies lost to Houston who had made four World Series in six years
• '22 Eagles lost to Mahomes/Reid Chiefs 

The only happenstance teams they seemed to play were the '08 Phillies against Tampa Bay and the '83 Phillies against Baltimore 

 

I was thinking about this last night, absolutely crazy.

The Chiefs are not a dynasty. The Eagles were the superior team and lost. That should not be put in the same category as the Sixers losing to the Lakers

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Problem is those guy don't have big base salaries. Spotrac and OTC both have all 4 with only $1,080,000 base so it looks like Howie structured them all similarly. All 4 are prime 2024 restructures because that's when they jump to like $14M+ base salary each. 

I think they do something with Slay and restructure Lane Johnson. Also wouldn't be surprised if Quez is cut. It's hard to even trust him at this point as is and he's almost $3M with barely any dead money. 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Chiefs are not a dynasty. The Eagles were the superior team and lost. That should not be put in the same category as the Sixers losing to the Lakers

5 AFCCG, 3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 Super Bowl titles within 5 years is (without question) a dynasty.   And by the looks of it, they’re not done yet. 
 

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

For those that are afraid of clicking on this, I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post it differently 

It's a video talking about the Sod Father, who has done the sod for every super bowl including this one, he's a chiefs fan.

Alleges that chiefs had knowledge before hand about the turf as they didn't ever change cleats and the Eagles players changed cleats multiple times 

Also a guy charted how many times each team had a player on defense slip and also multiple players slip on same play from same team. 

Eagles players slipped on 38% of plays and had multiple, multiple player slips on same play.

Chiefs players had 14% of players where a player slipped and no multiple players slipped plays 

Add it all up that the super bowl was sponsored by state farm and Mahommes and Reid are state farm spokesman, combine that with a shoddy call from a ref who the chiefs have a substantial winning record compared to a losing record under that same ref for the eagles and it seems the eagles had a lot more to over come than just the chiefs.

I said it two days ago that the field negatively affected the eagles more than the chiefs, a also posed if the NFL had done so on purpose , now the question should be did the grounds keeper do it on purpose because he's a chiefs fan?

Well likely never know, fieldgate won't ever be a thing and if it was the league would immediately bury it and burn the evidence to save face.

Either way that field was an embarrassment for a multi billion dollar Industry and it's sad that it seemingly negatively affected the eagles play more than the chiefs 

I agree the field was an embarrasment.  

11 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The field was an issue.  Zero doubt there.

 

I would like to know though (if anyone has the stats) how fast  was Mahomes getting the ball out (while in the pocket)? 

2.23 seconds on average from what I remember. Between scheme and the field, their OL didn't exactly have the hardest job. That's why I think the gloating is kind of annoying.

41 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

And the Chiefs’ game plan protected them accordingly, as did the playing surface. 

The Chiefs have power rushers. We have speed rushers.

Guess which one a slippery field helps?

That's not a knock against the Chiefs BTW. The same thing happened in the Bills/Bengals playoff game. The only difference is that the Bills built an indoor dome team, while we got shafted by the NFL being morons.

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

5 AFCCG, 3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 Super Bowl titles within 5 years is (without question) a dynasty.   And by the looks of it, they’re not done yet. 
 

Nah. 2 SBs in 4 years is not a dynasty. The Giants did that not too long ago.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Nah. 2 SBs in 4 years is not a dynasty. The Giants did that not too long ago.

Well that's because the Giants had an elite QB.  

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

For those that are afraid of clicking on this, I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post it differently 

It's a video talking about the Sod Father, who has done the sod for every super bowl including this one, he's a chiefs fan.

Alleges that chiefs had knowledge before hand about the turf as they didn't ever change cleats and the Eagles players changed cleats multiple times 

Also a guy charted how many times each team had a player on defense slip and also multiple players slip on same play from same team. 

Eagles players slipped on 38% of plays and had multiple, multiple player slips on same play.

Chiefs players had 14% of players where a player slipped and no multiple players slipped plays 

Add it all up that the super bowl was sponsored by state farm and Mahommes and Reid are state farm spokesman, combine that with a shoddy call from a ref who the chiefs have a substantial winning record compared to a losing record under that same ref for the eagles and it seems the eagles had a lot more to over come than just the chiefs.

I said it two days ago that the field negatively affected the eagles more than the chiefs, a also posed if the NFL had done so on purpose , now the question should be did the grounds keeper do it on purpose because he's a chiefs fan?

Well likely never know, fieldgate won't ever be a thing and if it was the league would immediately bury it and burn the evidence to save face.

Either way that field was an embarrassment for a multi billion dollar Industry and it's sad that it seemingly negatively affected the eagles play more than the chiefs 

If you watch Spags pressure schemes, there were direct line to QB rushes. No cuts. They absolutely had inside info about field conditions. What's done is done but this is Belecheat-esque. On the Eagles side, Gannon should have adjusted.

3 minutes ago, bitbased said:

2.23 seconds on average from what I remember. Between scheme and the field, their OL didn't exactly have the hardest job. That's why I think the gloating is kind of annoying.

That’s what I figured.

 At the end of the day, you can have every pro bowl player in the history of the game on your d-line but if the QB is getting the ball out in 2.23 seconds, it doesn’t matter what the field conditions are, you’re not getting to him that fast. 
 

 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Nah. 2 SBs in 4 years is not a dynasty. The Giants did that not too long ago.

You can’t negate the 5AFCCG plus the 1 other Super Bowl appearance.  That all plays into what is considered a "dynasty”.   The Giants didn’t do that with their 2 championships.  That’s the difference. 

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Chiefs are not a dynasty. The Eagles were the superior team and lost. That should not be put in the same category as the Sixers losing to the Lakers

Chiefs have a dynasty as long as they have Mahomes IMO

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

For those that are afraid of clicking on this, I'm sorry I can't figure out how to post it differently 

It's a video talking about the Sod Father, who has dine the sod for every super bowl including this one, he's a chiefs fan.

Alleges that chiefs had knowledge before hand about the turf as they didn't ever change cleats and the Eagles players changed cleats multiple times 

Also a guy charted how many times each team had a player on defense slip and also multiple players slip in same team 

Eagles players slipped on 38% of plays and had multiple, multiple player slips on same play.

Chiefs players had 14% if players where a player slipped and no multiple players slipped plays 

Add it all up that the super bowl was sponsored by state farm and Mahommes and Reid are state farm spokesman, combine that with a shoddy call from a ref who the chiefs have a substantial winning record compared to a losing record under that same ref for the eagles and it seems the eagles had a lot more to over come than just the chiefs.

I said it two days ago that the field negatively affected the eagles more than the chiefs, a also posed if the NFL had done so on purpose , now the question should be did the grounds keeper do it on purpose because he's a chiefs fan?

Well likely never know, field hate won't ever be a thing and if it was the league would immediately bury it and burn the evidence to dave face.

Either way that field was an embarrassment for a multi billion dollar Industry and it's sad that it seeming negatively affected the eagles play more than the chiefs 

And yet, the moment it happened you change shoes.  Then you change tactics. We sucked on D.  Not attacking the messenger nor you, but this is a non story as it relates to the L.  We suck. End of story. 

We did NOTHING on D.  Didn't stop the run.  Didn't stop the pass (one incompletion-ONE- F@@@ ONE!!!!).  No sacks. No 3rd down stops.  The story that should be running non stop at the Linc is HOW BAD WE SUCKED ON D.  That is the story.  

Even if Gannon did not leave, he should have been fired.  You kidding me?  He LOST the super bowl on D with that squad.

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And fire both punters and the Special Teams entire staff (all of them). 

 

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Chiefs are not a dynasty. The Eagles were the superior team and lost. That should not be put in the same category as the Sixers losing to the Lakers

In the SB 3 out of 4 with 2 wins and will be very good next year.  Dynasty in today's NFL 100%.

Just now, RLC said:

The Chiefs have power rushers. We have speed rushers.

Guess which one a slippery field helps?

That's not a knock against the Chiefs BTW. The same thing happened in the Bills/Bengals playoff game. The only difference is that the Bills built an indoor dome team, while we got shafted by the NFL being morons.

In the video I posted above someone charted amount of times each team had a player skip in defense and how many times a team had multiple players slip on D.

Eagles were at 38% of snaps 1 or more defenders slipped with multiple okay where 2 or more defensive players slipped.

Chiefs were at 14% of plays with zero plays where multiple defenders slipped on the same play.

The sod was grown by a man nicknamed the Sod father, he's grown sod for every super bowl including this one and is employed by nine other than the KC chiefs and is a life long chiefs fan.

The eagles players changed cleats during the game multiple times 

Chiefs players never changed cleats...

You do the math🤔

 

My criteria for dynasty:

-Must win back to back titles during a 5+ year run of 3 or more championships.

or

-Must win 3 titles every other year during a 5+ year run.

A dynasty is a very special thing that should not be watered down by non championship accomplishments. The Lakers were a dynasty. The 80's Celtics. The Yankees.

Can't put teams like the Chiefs in the same category when their achievements are so vastly different.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

4 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

On the Eagles side, Gannon should have adjusted.

Everything other than this means f*** all.  So glad he is gone.  

6 minutes ago, bitbased said:

2.23 seconds on average from what I remember. Between scheme and the field, their OL didn't exactly have the hardest job. That's why I think the gloating is kind of annoying.

That was in the second half. It was higher in the first half. No question they got help. And when the Eagles did get pressure, Mahomes bailed them out.