4 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

If you watch Spags pressure schemes, there were direct line to QB rushes. No cuts. They absolutely had inside info about field conditions. What's done is done but this is Belecheat-esque. On the Eagles side, Gannon should have adjusted.

Yup it's pretty obvious to me chiefs had inside knowledge about the field conditions going in which is why they never changed cleats and like you said from the beginning firmed their defensive game plan around that inside knowledge.

Even with that advantage eagles still almost won.

Super bowl is supposed to be a neutral field but it was anything but and was doctored by a chiefs employee to the advantage of the chiefs.

Sad but seems pretty obvious to me.

A dynasty to me is 3 championships in a short period of time. Maybe 7-8 years max. Chiefs aren't there yet, but they're on that track for sure.

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

That’s what I figured.

 At the end of the day, you can have every pro bowl player in the history of the game on your d-line but if the QB is getting the ball out in 2.23 seconds, it doesn’t matter what the field conditions are, you’re not getting to him that fast. 
 

 

Cover 0, rush 3 straight line, clog the short/middle zones and man up on Kelce.  

On the last drive rush 6.  

30 minutes ago, jamiller said:

And yet, the moment it happened you change shoes.  Then you change tactics. We sucked on D.  Not attacking the messenger nor you, but this is a non story as it relates to the L.  We suck. End of story. 

We did NOTHING on D.  Didn't stop the run.  Didn't stop the pass (one incompletion-ONE- F@@@ ONE!!!!).  No sacks. No 3rd down stops.  The story that should be running non stop at the Linc is HOW BAD WE SUCKED ON D.  That is the story.  

Even if Gannon did not leave, he should have been fired.  You kidding me?  He LOST the super bowl on D with that squad.

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And fire both punters and the Special Teams entire staff (all of them). 

 

I said this a few days ago and I think it's worth repeating 

Gannons whole scheme is based off getting pressure with 4 guys, in fact the eagles not only lead the league in sacks they also led the league in sacks from 4 man pressures.

The field negatively Impacted the eagles ability to get consistent pressure with 4 because they were slipping and sliding all over, they changed cleats multiple times the chiefs did not because from the get go they knew what the field would be like because the guy who grew the field is an employed by the chiefs.

Spags. Didn't need to adjust anything because he knew before hand what the field would be like his players had the proper footwear and even if it was a little slick fir them he planned accordingly with straightforward pressure right up the middle that doesn't require change of direction.

Sweat Graham's reddicks game is built on  speed and quickness and being able to turn a corner 

kC first pass of the game Sweat beats his guy is about to turn the corner and at least pressure or hit mahommes and instead he slips and falls down, mahommes zero pressure completes the pass.

Can you imagine how different the trajectory of the game would have been if sweat hit him in that first drive and forces a punt I stead of the trying TD?

There was zero reason to have such a crappy field unless the guy putting that field out there was a chiefs fan a chiefs employee and thought it would give the chiefs an advantage it obviously did 

Having said that you are right about Gannon he never adjusted, he never stopped and Said this field blows we can't get any pressure rushing 4 especially on the edge or running 4 man stunts which Gannon does alot so I'm going to have to bring pressure another way.

He just left 7 back rushed 4 straight up and watched the chiefs do whatever they wanted 

I'm convinced if the field was right the eagles win that game, it woukd still probably be close but eagles win on a better field 

I know the players and coaches won't make those excuses but as a fan I can and will.

 

We are going to be damn good next year and this team can go toe to toe with anyone, strength of schedule be damned.

Im ready to start it up now. We are built to be here for a while.

1 hour ago, Allhaildawk said:

Or Sean tucker if we’re that late. But if Gibbs is there at 30 it’s tough to pass up. 

 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Charbonnett is nice, has always looked a little Demarco Murray-ish to me though. Runs upright.

Spears just pops off the screen though. Dude is quick as hell and will be nasty as a pass catcher in the NFL. Reminds me of Alvin Kamara.

Just watch both back to back and see the difference.

 

Give me DeWayne McBride from UAB over any of these options.

19 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

A dynasty to me is 3 championships in a short period of time. Maybe 7-8 years max. Chiefs aren't there yet, but they're on that track for sure.

For what it's worth, the Oilers weren't either at the time... but got 2 of their 4 Stanley Cups (with Gretzky) against the Flyers.  (Their 2nd and 3rd.)

So, the Chiefs are 'right on pace' for what the Oilers of the 80s did.  And just like the Oilers with Gretzky, they have that uber-superstar in Mahomes.

Anyone know any hackers that can break into the 90+ year olds e-mail to see what we can find?

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

It wasn't his crew so this means nothing. 

35 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You can’t negate the 5AFCCG plus the 1 other Super Bowl appearance.  That all plays into what is considered a "dynasty”.   The Giants didn’t do that with their 2 championships.  That’s the difference. 

Fricking Giants are 4-1 in superbowls and we are 1-3. It so fricking annoying. Well atleast better than the Bills. Imagine their plight in the 90s 🙂

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It wasn't his crew so this means nothing. 

Exactly what I was thinking. 

Jason Kelce on new heights podcast taking blame for 3rd and 5 failure in 3rd quarter to start half.

rip this beauty

Steelers in talks with Rams about trading Ramsey for pick 32.  Should we give them pick 31?

28 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

We are going to be damn good next year and this team can go toe to toe with anyone, strength of schedule be damned.

Im ready to start it up now. We are built to be here for a while.

Offense should be back near 100%,

Defense could be missing a few starters but if what they say is true (our depth is solid), then defense should be pretty stout as well.

Plus add draft, free agents, etc.  Yep, we should be contenders next season. 

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2023/2/15/23600736/super-bowl-all-22-film-review-what-went-wrong-with-the-eagles-defense

 

9 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Steelers in talks with Rams about trading Ramsey for pick 32.  Should we give them pick 31?

No

54 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

If you watch Spags pressure schemes, there were direct line to QB rushes. No cuts. They absolutely had inside info about field conditions. What's done is done but this is Belecheat-esque. On the Eagles side, Gannon should have adjusted.

Meh.  There's a difference between doing your homework and due diligence vs cheating.

Andy Reid does his homework and always has - hence the reason his teams are generationally good after bye weeks. 

This is the same guy that gave his guys "pickle juice" knowing the field conditions were going to be that hot and difficult to rehydrate prior to the "pickle juice" game.  Think about that.
 

 

Just now, GoEagles614 said:

 

Would’ve been nice to see how the pass rush would’ve done with actual traction under their feet. But it doesn’t really matter because Gannon REALLY put them in awful positions. Can’t believe how soft we played, and didn’t focus Kelce. It’s insane to think about. An all-time choke job by a defensive "genius” 

12 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Steelers in talks with Rams about trading Ramsey for pick 32.  Should we give them pick 31?

Nope. He's terrible.  Kinda like Diggs for Dallas. Beat all the time. 

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

In fairness to them, you couldn’t watch anything related to the Super Bowl in the weeks prior without someone talking about our 70+ sacks and "the vaunted Eagles D Line”. 

Bull....I've played football and I've played it in the mud....when the field deteriorates, total advantage goes to the offense.  The defense cannot get its footing to pass rush or defend.  I honestly believe that field cost us the Super Bowl.  Yes, the Chiefs had to play on the same defense but we needed our best defensive effort to try and contain Mahomes and couldn't.  If that was the Linc, or any normal field, our defense would have been able to do so much more than it did.  And yes, maybe the Chiefs defense would have too...but I believe that with our offense vs. their defense, we still would have done more than their offense vs. our defense.  Might be sour grapes, might be completely wrong....guess we will never know.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Nope. He's terrible.  Kinda like Diggs for Dallas. Beat all the time. 

This might be the least accurate football comment in the history of the blog.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Meh.  There's a difference between doing your homework and due diligence vs cheating.

Andy Reid does his homework and always has - hence the reason his teams are generationally good after bye weeks. 

This is the same guy that gave his guys "pickle juice" knowing the field conditions were going to be that hot and difficult to rehydrate prior to the "pickle juice" game.  Think about that.
 

Okay, so it was Vis major. I don't have a problem with that. Gannon not reacting to it was the problem as an Eagle fan. As an NFL fan, it was an embarrassment.