2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Not sure why they wouldn't re sign this dude.

He can at all over the defensive secondary is a ball hawk, is super high energy passionate guy so why let him walk?

For who for what.

Kelce also just said Hurts didn't get anything on the Hail Merry because he stepped on his foot.🤷‍♂️

I think he's looking more for a payday than anything else. Not sure Howie is willing to give a top of the line S contract out. I'd bet Eagles have interest in signing him but it all depends on what he gets offered. 

Also it's likely his agent and Howie discussed what a potential contract would look like. It could be his agent advising him he can get better elsewhere. 

Something else for us to complain about. 

25 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'd trade 30 for Ramsey, draft a CB at 10 and trade Slay. A little complicated, but you get younger across the board.

Ramsey is nowhere near what he was in JAX; maybe he lost motivation after getting paid, maybe it was after the Super Bowl party.  He's not worth a first round pick at this point -- and I was one of the guys driving the bus to trade for him when the Jags dealt him.

3 minutes ago, jamiller said:

Just watch the All 22.  No closure needed. 

Bad scheme.  And the adjustments were weak.  No preparation for this team.  High motion and lots of dink dunk with a good run game. We countered with do nothing at all different whatsoever.   Don't double a guy, stand on the back of your heels watching motion when you should be playing downhill.  Rush 4 and drop 7.  Vanilla blitz was the big sea change.  

Cincy had great results with 3/8 and we just ignore that. Hubris.

Unreal.  Just staggeringly bad.  

 

Lol I was told all week leading up that Cincy held KC to 23 points, and our defense was far better than Cincy so there’ll be no problems.

 

Funny how that works

Just now, jamiller said:

Just watch the All 22.  No closure needed. 

Bad scheme.  And the adjustments were weak.  No preparation for this team.  High motion and lots of dink dunk with a good run game. We countered with do nothing at all different whatsoever.   Don't double a guy, stand on the back of your heels watching motion when you should be playing downhill.  Rush 4 and drop 7.  Vanilla blitz was the big sea change.  

Cincy had great results with 3/8 and we just ignore that. Hubris.

Unreal.  Just staggeringly bad.  

 

Good breakdown...I think we all know what happened, I just want to hear Gannon's side of it. 

The more time I have time to process the L, I feel that so much of this falls on the coaching...Siri, Steichen and Gannon are all to blame. 

How the F does Clay still have a job right now? The guy is toilet water when it comes to ST

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I'm about 90% sure he's on top of Howie's list to resign.  (Or should be).

 

Keep him.

Keep Reddick and Sweat. Keep Slay because of the cost. Start Davis (always give me a gigantic NT for my defense and I will make it work). Get an impact LB that just rips runners apart no matter how much he costs.  Keep Hargrave if possible.  Drop anyone else we can't afford and plug it up with rookies, 2nd years and JAGs. 

3 minutes ago, Birdman said:

Good breakdown...I think we all know what happened, I just want to hear Gannon's side of it. 

The more time I have time to process the L, I feel that so much of this falls on the coaching...Siri, Steichen and Gannon are all to blame. 

How the F does Clay still have a job right now? The guy is toilet water when it comes to ST

Clay should be fired. No one ever will persuade me otherwise.  

One of the disappointing things about making it to the SB is losing players to other teams for big contracts

11 minutes ago, Birdman said:

I wouldn't read that far into that, something tells me Howie will get it done. 

 

It's possible it's nothing. But it's curious that there was never an extension when we traded for him to begin with, which could possibly explain the lack of compensation. It could have been his plan all along that he wants to test free agency. 

8 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The only adjustment I noticed is that they started doubling/paying more attention to Travis Kelce - and we slowed him down - but not their offense.

 

Fair. They did do that in the 2nd. 

 

1 minute ago, jamiller said:

Fair. They did do that in the 2nd. 

 

That shouldn't have been an adjustment that should have been the game plan from the start.

20 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

No its about the net talent of one guy and a draft pick vs other guy…

Exactly aj brown is very much likely better than juju and whatever guy they were gonna select at 18 last year. Imo aj brown> juju and whatever player they selected at 18. Again hypothetically if the rams 3 years ago put up Aaron donald and the eagles could have dealt 30th overall or could have hargrave in free agency and use the 30th pick in the draft which are you taking? I’m guessing most are taking Donald and not thinking twice about it. I’d figure out how to make the cap work with that type of deal cause of who I’m getting  

your original response was this  

"we dont/wont have the cap to do another AJ deal. 30 is a valuable pick we need. Would only swap for a first in 24 plus some picks”

so the cap is figuring into why you wouldn’t do another aj brown type deal. I disagree i think they’d figure out to get a player of that type of difference making ability if it’s for the 30th overall pick and paying him. Again the player they are receiving in a trade isn’t someone who’s just a mediocre or solid starter. If I’m getting a pro bowl/all pro talent at a premium position i highly doubt they flat out say no. I’m guessing they try to figure out how to make it work. 

6 minutes ago, jamiller said:

Clay should be fired. No one ever will persuade me otherwise.  

Are you sure about that?

 

 

35 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I know it’s still early and I’m still upset/disappointed/looking for answers but lets separate ourselves from 49ers fans and give the Chiefs their due.

The last thing I want to hear about the entire off-season is about the field and "what if”.   The field was an issue - no doubt.  But the Chiefs played on the same field and apparently didn’t even need to change their cleats.  Whose fault is that?    

Some conspiracy?  Doubtful.

 Any equipment tech; assistant coach - even the head coach could have gone out on the field, asked about the conditions during pre game warmups etc etc and determined it was a bad and slippery field.  Why didn’t any of our guys do that?  

In my opinion, the so called "conspiracy” ends there.  If anything, we conspired against ourselves for:

A. Not being ready for it

B. Not adjusting equipment in time

C. Not making defensive scheming adjustments to adapt to the slippery field. 

 

 

It’s just information. If you read any of my posts it’s 99% about Gannon failing his players. No excuses. Not even the refs. 

57 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2023/2/15/23600736/super-bowl-all-22-film-review-what-went-wrong-with-the-eagles-defense

 

Couldn't even make it through this article.  F Gannon, Im so glad hes gone now. Talk about an all time f'ing turd.  Unreal.

1 hour ago, Next_Up said:

If you watch Spags pressure schemes, there were direct line to QB rushes. No cuts. They absolutely had inside info about field conditions. What's done is done but this is Belecheat-esque. On the Eagles side, Gannon should have adjusted.

They didn't have any inside info. I heard that Sirianni knew the field was slick a week in advance and told the players.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Couldn't even make it through this article.  F Gannon, Im so glad hes gone now. Talk about an all time f'ing turd.  Unreal.

Been saying it all year. Playing 8 yards off of WRs on medium distance. Not getting physical with offense to disrupt timing. No blitzes. Poor to no adjustments. His defense is chop suey. 

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Exactly aj brown is very much likely better than juju and whatever guy they were gonna select at 18 last year. Imo aj brown> juju and whatever player they selected at 18. Again hypothetically if the rams 3 years ago put up Aaron donald and the eagles could have dealt 30th overall or could have hargrave in free agency and use the 30th pick in the draft which are you taking? I’m guessing most are taking Donald and not thinking twice about it. I’d figure out how to make the cap work with that type of deal cause of who I’m getting  

your original response was this  

"we dont/wont have the cap to do another AJ deal. 30 is a valuable pick we need. Would only swap for a first in 24 plus some picks”

so the cap is figuring into why you wouldn’t do another aj brown type deal. I disagree i think they’d figure out to get a player of that type of difference making ability if it’s for the 30th overall pick and paying him. Again the player they are receiving in a trade isn’t someone who’s just a mediocre or solid starter. If I’m getting a pro bowl/all pro talent at a premium position i highly doubt they flat out say no. I’m guessing they try to figure out how to make it work. 

I'd sign Donald and figure out how to pay him later lol

Eagles quiet on the DC front. No rumblings of even perspective interviews.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd sign Donald and figure out how to pay him later lol

If he was a free agent I’d agree. However the point was originally, eagles wouldn’t deal pick 30 for that type of player at a premium position due to cap they have right now and need cheaper player so just use money in free agency to get a player with pick. My thing is if I’m the eagles id make that trade with the 30th pick if I’m getting a premium type player (like an aj brown) at a premium position and i figure out how to manage to make the cap work. 

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Can I call Jeffrey up and have him interview me to satisfy the external candidate part? Lets get Johnson locked in.

Wouldn't be a bad thing to reset most of the defense and the DC.  

We went as far as we could with that group.  If the Eagles want to get back to the SB and win it over a Mahomes, Allen, Burrow or Herbert type of QB, having Gannon wasn't going to cut it.

I honestly don't care if we break sack records. I just want a fast, physical defense that can obliterate the bad teams and at least hold the good to great teams to 24-28.  

It's going to be interesting to see which way they go on defense. I do think they need to go a different route and bring in someone from the outside. I guess the risk there is you end up with a lot of new positional coaches. 

Right now though I really don't care about any of this. I'm still torn up from the loss on Sunday and that's going to take a long time to get over. For the first time ever I'm glad there's a long off season. 

(Of course give him a week or two and I'll be begging for football)

Losing both Coordinators at the same time is compounded by most positional coaches usually having only 2 year contracts. There's a very good chance the majority of the coaches aren't under contract which means they are free to leave if they want to follow Gannon or Steichen.