2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Way to avoid my question 

Here’ 10 picks in the 2023 Draft plus a 2024 pick as a bonus.

12 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's much easier to beat offensive motion if your LBs are actually good. 

Edwards/Kyzir got put into a blender.

That’s true. However on the skyy moore td Emmanuel acho actually broke that down pretty well. Usually I’d say don’t listen to acho cause he is kind of full of himself but maddox didn’t recognizing it could be the same type of route they ran with toney earlier. Maddox was traveling with moore on his motion but when moore stopped and went back maddox was too far front of moore. He should’ve been trailing not leading moore on his motion. add on with his toe issue he had no chance of getting back. So slay would’ve had to switch from kelce to cover moore. But even if he does maddox would have to switch on kelce which is a big time mismatch for the chiefs and if he doesn’t switch then kelce is wide open  

 

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

 

Yes everybody knows the PFN mock draft simulator is an accurate reflection of reality.

 

Has any team ever turned two firsts (one of them the 2nd last pick), a 2nd and a 3rd into 10 additional picks in the same year? 

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

I'm still not understanding the appeal of Vance Joseph.  He became DC for the Dolphins in 2016 and took a 19th ranked defense and transformed them into the 18th ranked defense.  Went to Denver as head coach in 2017 and took a defense that was 4th best under Wade Phillips in both 2015 and 2016, and the defense was 22nd in 2017.  He went 11-21 as a head coach. 

He goes to the Cardinals in 2019 taking over a defense that was 26th; in his first year in 2019 they were 28th (got even worse).  2020 and 2021 they were much improved to 12th and 11th, but in 2022 they went back to 31st overall.

There's gotta be better candidates out there.

1 minute ago, SkippyX said:

Cause you still wouldn’t understand it?

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s true. However on the skyy moore td Emmanuel acho actually broke that down pretty well. Usually I’d say don’t listen to acho cause he is kind of full of himself but maddox didn’t recognizing it could be the same type of route they ran with toney earlier. Maddox was traveling with moore on his motion but when moore stopped and went back maddox was too far front of moore. He should’ve been trailing not leading moore on his motion. add on with his toe issue he had no chance of getting back. So slay would’ve had to switch from kelce to cover moore. But even if he does maddox would have to switch on kelce which is a big time mismatch for the chiefs 

Maddox definitely responsible on that play.

Edwards/Kyzir didn't make a play the entire game. Gannon never playing Nakobe Dean all season probably cost us a ring.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s true. However on the skyy moore td Emmanuel acho actually broke that down pretty well. Usually I’d say don’t listen to acho cause he is kind of full of himself but maddox didn’t recognizing it could be the same type of route they ran with toney earlier. Maddox was traveling with moore on his motion but when moore stopped and went back maddox was too far front of moore. He should’ve been trailing not leading moore on his motion. add on with his toe issue he had no chance of getting back. So slay would’ve had to switch from kelce to cover moore. But even if he does maddox would have to switch on kelce which is a big time mismatch for the chiefs 

 

Please, I beg you….I can’t look at these plays anymore 

3 minutes ago, Nivraga said:

You're preaching to the choir. I'm was just suggesting that (lol can't remember who) was making that assertion. 

The only reason I put it out there was that I was listening to 97.5 and their morning show kept calling this past defense the best in team history, and it nearly made me crash on the side of the road!  So amazing how short memories are.  Yes, 1991 was 30+ years ago.  Regardless... they were one of very few defenses to ever finish #1 across the board of defensive statistics... and they did it without any support from the offense.  They literally won some games on their own scoring and the offense doing nothing at all.  

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

We had such a good offense, but having minimal answers to blitzes is completely baffling. 

Keeping it simple for Hurts.  1 hot read,  or run to beat the blitz.

And that's where he can improve next year. 

It was very obvious in the 2nd Giants game that he's not as far along as a pocket passer as he seems. 

His passing was not dangerous without the threat of his legs. 

He needs to be able to read well enough,  and check well enough that he can be a successful passer when a D knows he cant/won't run.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Maddox definitely responsible on that play.

Edwards/Kyzir didn't make a play the entire game. Gannon never playing Nakobe Dean all season probably cost us a ring.

 

29 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

He did improve to a magnitude not many of us thought he could this season. It’s possible he works hard enough at it to improve next season, but it’s certainly an issue to watch out for 

I think the improvement is very overestimated due to the weak opponents

27 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I bet you had a similar post last year or the year before about other areas of his game. Let’s see if he can improve in this area like he has in others. 

Overestimated

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

Maddox definitely responsible on that play.

Edwards/Kyzir didn't make a play the entire game. Gannon never playing Nakobe Dean all season probably cost us a ring.

Depending on how Dean looks and plays it’s possible. Don’t know for sure cause as great as Dean was in college we don’t know what he is as a pro. Hoping he’s as great in the nfl as in college. 

that said on that play this goes back to what I said earlier. The Chiefs tendencies are they will go back to a play of theirs in the same game or even from another year that has worked against that defense. The eagles are very similar. They’ll keep doing it til you adjust and learn to stop it. A lot of teams do it once and then think they’ve shown it so they won’t use it again in that game. They did it do the chargers and they did it to the Eagles. On that specific play, Gannon and Maddox need to be aware of it being third down and goal and the last time they were in the red zone 3 minutes earlier that play work so effectively that they might go back to it. Some of this is on maddox just not being smarter and trailing knowing it could happen and some of this is on Gannon for not having his players aware enough to watch out that it could be coming again

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I think the improvement is very overestimated due to the weak opponents

He definitely improved significantly as a passer. Regardless of weak opponents, and he showed up in a huge way in the most important game. He wasn’t perfect by any means, but he improved to a level that I didn’t think was possible. It’s in our best interests that he makes another leap next year

Nick and Howie speaking today at 2

TJ Edwards in the playoffs
0 sacks. 0 QB hits. 0 TFL. 0 FF, 1 PD. 

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

That’s exactly what I’m getting at. Why aren’t there more hot routes? I’d love to know the real answer, but my guess would be it’s more of a QB issue, not a scheme issue. Regardless, hopefully that improves this offseason. 

Has anyone directly asked Sirianni about this? If not, I would love to hear his answer.

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Overestimated

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nick and Howie speaking today at 2

59 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

If only...

My bid at being Howie

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

TJ Edwards in the playoffs
0 sacks. 0 QB hits. 0 TFL. 0 FF, 1 PD. 

Those are also Nick Bolton's playoff stats, but we gave away a fumble to him for a TD.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The only reason I put it out there was that I was listening to 97.5 and their morning show kept calling this past defense the best in team history, and it nearly made me crash on the side of the road!  So amazing how short memories are.  Yes, 1991 was 30+ years ago.  Regardless... they were one of very few defenses to ever finish #1 across the board of defensive statistics... and they did it without any support from the offense.  They literally won some games on their own scoring and the offense doing nothing at all.  

91 defense is the most talented defense we ever had. It’s up there for most talented defense in nfl history too. This defense had a bunch of talent. I’d argue more talented than 2017 and up there with the early 2000 eagles under JJ. The thing that I come away from this game that bothers me is the fact that the Eagles played 400 games since 2000 and EPA per drop back for the eagles defense was 391st and offensive success rate was 395. That is like horribly bad. No one was asking the Eagles to completely shut down the Chiefs. However, with that is up there with some of the worst defenses we’ve seen over the last 22 years. Like you should not be that bad with that much talent. I don’t care if it’s Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. I’ve seen other coordinators not be as horrific as that. Just for perspective, think about the worst Eagles team in the last 22 years. Think about how bad that defense was that year. That’s how bad the defense of performance in he SB ranks in the analytics.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Those are also Nick Bolton's playoff stats, but we gave away a fumble to him for a TD.

Bolton also isn't the best LB on his own team. Willie Gay is very good. 
(Bolton also almost got another turnover on the Sanders hit)

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Talking to Vance Joseph means they're open to blitzing schemes. *Thankful*

That or they're fulfilling the requirement to interview an outside of the company minority so they can promote the DB coach to DC