15 hours ago, The guy in France said:

I’m not seeing it maybe my short attention span. Do agree about Faulk though, opens the whole field up

Faulk measurables:

Height: 5’10”

Weight: 206 pounds

Arm length: 31.75 inches

Hand Size: 9.125 inches

40 time: 4.35 (pro day)

Gibbs measurables:

Height: 5’9”

Weight: 199 pounds

Arm length: 30.5 inches

Hand size: 9.25 inches

40 time: 4.35 (combine)

Faulk was a little bigger, Gibbs is a little faster (combine is slower than pro day). They have similar skill sets as receivers. Interestingly Gibbs has bigger hands despite the smaller size.

I think he he compares very favorably, especially considering he is likely to be selected in the 20-50 range.

Will wait on the details, but seems Lane's contract is really a 2 year, $30mm deal which is guaranteed. The rest is window dressing to pump up the numbers and spread out the cap hits. But you're really only tied to each other for 2 years. Makes sense -- Eagles get cap relief and Lane gets guaranteed money for 2 years. Win-win deal.

EDIT: Just looked, and per otc, Lane only had ~14.5mm in guaranteed salary left for '23 and '24. So he gets security to play 2 more years, and team gets cap relief. He also had $1.5mm in bonuses each year ($1.25mm roster and 250k workout), so guessing for him it's a $13.5mm boost in guarantees for the next 2 years.

3 minutes ago, TEW said:

Faulk measurables:

Height: 5’10”

Weight: 206 pounds

Arm length: 31.75 inches

Hand Size: 9.125 inches

40 time: 4.35 (pro day)

Gibbs measurables:

Height: 5’9”

Weight: 199 pounds

Arm length: 30.5 inches

Hand size: 9.25 inches

40 time: 4.35 (combine)

Faulk was a little bigger, Gibbs is a little faster (combine is slower than pro day). They have similar skill sets as receivers. Interestingly Gibbs has bigger hands despite the smaller size.

I think he he compares very favorably, especially considering he is likely to be selected in the 20-50 range.

Very tempting if he is there at 30. Could be an instant playmaker and difference maker. 

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

Very tempting if he is there at 30. Could be an instant playmaker and difference maker. 

Yup.

Obviously it depends on who is available, but I think he’s the one player in this draft (including Bijan) who could take our offense to a new level.

12 hours ago, Original Sin said:

I mention Tippmann as one of my 10 favorite players in the draft , I think he goes earlier than consensus says , imo he is the best athlete of all the IOL 

Rumor has it that his nickname is Justda.  👀

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Yup.

Obviously it depends on who is available, but I think he’s the one player in this draft (including Bijan) who could take our offense to a new level.

Absolutely, but he has to be considered I think. He adds a completely new and different weapon to this offense and we are built to win now. Imagine the run option with him and Hurts. He can run routes out of the slot too. 

Quote

– Gibbs looked absolutely awesome. He only did field work and that was enough to confirm exactly what he has shown on tape. Gibbs was very fluid running routes out of the backfield and displayed very soft hands.

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/.amp/news/alabama-pro-day-bryce-young-journal

 

10 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Very tempting if he is there at 30. Could be an instant playmaker and difference maker. 

I actually like Gibbs better as a receiving threat than a runner.  Not sure how well he'd function as a traditional RB at the NFL level; he's not a great inside runner and doesn't break tackles often.

He actually strikes me as a rich man's Gainwell, and I could see a switch to slot WR for him at some point.

49 minutes ago, paco said:

That's why I would think 30 could be in play.  You get a 3rd and you are guaranteed value.  Even if the team we trade it to wins it all, we come out ahead points wise. 

Throw in a 5th for kicks and giggles and I'm sold

50 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Maybe but this group feels much different.  This would havbe been like the Eagles getting past Tampa in 2002 and losing in the Super Bowl.  The first 5 years of Reid there were no weapons on offense aside from Duce and McNabb.  Receiver was such a sore spot and Banner/Modrak/Reid did not invest enough in the position.  Then when they had TO, they took a stupidly hard line when he wanted to restructure the deal.  The Reid and Banner's pride and ego killed the team from 05 to 07 when having TO would have kept them competitive. 

Maybe they win in 2002 if they didn't take that same hardline with Trotter.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I actually like Gibbs better as a receiving threat than a runner.  Not sure how well he'd function as a traditional RB at the NFL level; he's not a great inside runner and doesn't break tackles often.

He actually strikes me as a rich man's Gainwell, and I could see a switch to slot WR for him at some point.

I think he’ll do very well in our offense. But he’s definitely scheme dependent.

With Hurts in the backfield, you have one defender getting frozen on the back side of the handoff. The eagles OL uses a ton of movement to get angles and open up a lane to the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense.

Gibbs isn’t going to lower his shoulder and run over NFL linebackers, but he can break tackles in 1v1 situations. He uses elusiveness, a strong lower body, balance, and a good stiff arm. If you watch him in college, he’s fantastic bursting up the middle when he gets a crease.

I do agree with you about him being an excellent receiver and that’s why I’m so interested in him. I think with Hurts in the backfield as a run/pass threat and our receivers out wide, he has the potential to make our entire offense a nightmare to match up with.

The question starts with how many DBs and LBs are you putting on the field against Brown, Smith, Watkins, Goedert, Hurts, and Gibbs? Because there is no right answer to that question.

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I actually like Gibbs better as a receiving threat than a runner.  Not sure how well he'd function as a traditional RB at the NFL level; he's not a great inside runner and doesn't break tackles often.

He actually strikes me as a rich man's Gainwell, and I could see a switch to slot WR for him at some point.

Reminds me of Eric Metcalf.

Browns tried to pigeon hole him as a RB and he was ok nothing special there then he gets to Atlanta in Jerry glanvilles run n shoot as a slot WR and blows up for 1000 yards receiving.

Probably should have been a WR/RB from day one.

Can Gibbs return punts?

3 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think he’ll do very well in our offense. But he’s definitely scheme dependent.

With Hurts in the backfield, you have one defender getting frozen on the back side of the handoff. The eagles OL uses a ton of movement to get angles and open up a lane to the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense.

Gibbs isn’t going to lower his shoulder and run over NFL linebackers, but he can break tackles in 1v1 situations. He uses elusiveness, a strong lower body, balance, and a good stiff arm. If you watch him in college, he’s fantastic bursting up the middle when he gets a crease.

I do agree with you about him being an excellent receiver and that’s why I’m so interested in him. I think with Hurts in the backfield as a run/pass threat and our receivers out wide, he has the potential to make our entire offense a nightmare to match up with.

The question starts with how many DBs and LBs are you putting on the field against Brown, Smith, Watkins, Goedert, Hurts, and Gibbs? Because there is no right answer to that question.

There is always a right answer 

honestly i would go two to three down lineman like the pats used so well

3-3-5 or 2-4-5. I mean the 3-3 stack is specifically good against zone blocking if you can execute it

40 minutes ago, TEW said:

Faulk measurables:

Height: 5’10”

Weight: 206 pounds

Arm length: 31.75 inches

Hand Size: 9.125 inches

40 time: 4.35 (pro day)

Gibbs measurables:

Height: 5’9”

Weight: 199 pounds

Arm length: 30.5 inches

Hand size: 9.25 inches

40 time: 4.35 (combine)

Faulk was a little bigger, Gibbs is a little faster (combine is slower than pro day). They have similar skill sets as receivers. Interestingly Gibbs has bigger hands despite the smaller size.

I think he he compares very favorably, especially considering he is likely to be selected in the 20-50 range.

He reminds me of Eric Metcalf who should have switched to WR much earlier.

42 minutes ago, Estasi said:

Maybe but not necessarily. They don’t cost the same. 

True enough

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Reminds me of Eric Metcalf.

Browns tried to pigeon hole him as a RB and he was ok nothing special there then he gets to Atlanta in Jerry glanvilles run n shoot as a slot WR and blows up for 1000 yards receiving.

Probably should have been a WR/RB from day one.

Can Gibbs return punts?

KR in college, but not PR.

I've heard the NFL is considering adopting the college rule of allowing fair catches on kickoffs where the ball would be placed at the 25-yard line.  That would counteract teams who have become proficient at hitting high, shorter kickoffs inside the 5 yard line.  That would further reduce the impact of a return specialist in the NFL.

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

There is always a right answer 

honestly i would go two to three down lineman like the pats used so well

3-3-5 or 2-4-5. I mean the 3-3 stack is specifically good against zone blocking if you can execute it

OK, I’m flexing Gibbs to the slot. You’re now forced into zero coverage with a safety on Goedert and Gibbs, or single high with a LB on Goedert or Gibbs.

And on top of that you only have 2 DL on the field vs 5 OL and Hurts with the ball if we run.

30 minutes ago, TEW said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/.amp/news/alabama-pro-day-bryce-young-journal

 

Yeah, he'll be gone by 30 

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He reminds me of Eric Metcalf who should have switched to WR much earlier.

Metcalf was 20 pounds lighter. Gibbs has an actual RB body. Gibbs is also a tenth of a second faster in the forty.

I agree that they have similar receiving ability, but Gibbs projects much better as a RB. 

3 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Yeah, he'll be gone by 30 

Definitely a possibility. We need to take him at 30 if he’s there, because he won’t last much longer assuming he’s even available.

2 hours ago, RLC said:

This takes OT off the board at 10 IMO. Does NOT take OL off the board at 10. Skoronski still fits.

Skoronski sucks

2 hours ago, RLC said:

This takes OT off the board at 10 IMO. Does NOT take OL off the board at 10. Skoronski still fits.

Broderick Jones could play OG and move to OT down the road as well, but with more upside.

Think there's a better chance Gibbs is there in the 40s than him going in the 20s. Breece Hall was a total stud and fell out of the 1st.

If we take an OT at 10 or 30...or even day 2 that can't play G as well I'll throw up

Just now, TEW said:

Broderick Jones could play OG and move to OT down the road as well, but with more upside.

If you could trade back a few and get him, then get Gibbs at 30. I think that's a pretty good first round even though I'm not 100% sure if I really want an o/lineman in round 1. But I'd look at the silver lining. I'm not sure if they are just handing RG over to Jurgens for the year to save money and get your 2nd rounder onto the field. It does make some sense.