13 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Didn't know much about Anudike-Uzomah but looks like a powerful edge setter that has some pass rush moves.

https://youtu.be/30iGvc_k5-4

I liked what I saw when he wasn’t stuck playing 4i. 

2 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Leaning more towards players that aren’t good. Penny will be good if he can stay healthy but I think I’d rather have Jalen Mills and Epps as the starting safeties over those two 

That would have been something.  I already have what their nicknames would have been:

The Garbage Men; they don’t even collect once a week 

I think there's more likely another shoe to drop at safety than LB since Dean will be playing a lot. Though man Dean and Morrow are super light. Gonna need depth there somewhere in case one or both doesn't work out

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think there's more likely another shoe to drop at safety than LB since Dean will be playing a lot. Though man Dean and Morrow are super light. Gonna need depth there somewhere in case one or both doesn't work out

Fred Warner is 235, Lavonte David is 233, Nakobe Dean is 231.

How heavy do you want these LBs to be?

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

That's the main thing.  No drop off.

Replacing our replaceable free agents with equal talent at a lower price was all I realistically hoped to accomplish this year. 

24 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I liked what I saw when he wasn’t stuck playing 4i. 

I keep comparing him to Paschal last year,  who I loved.  In round 2.

Could play all along the DL. Very strong.  Physical.  Could probably get after the QB if allowed to more. 

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Fred Warner is 235, Lavonte David is 233, Nakobe Dean is 231.

How heavy do you want these LBs to be?

That was his combine weight but someone said he was playing around 220

2 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

If the Birds were to go CB early I’m wondering if Bradberry or Slay would/could move to safety. May be something for Slay to consider if he wants to prolong his career. 

They probably don't have the physical traits that people look for in that. They say for most safety conversions, you want a good 3 cone or 20 shuttle, as well as the tape to match that. And those guys unfortunately do not have that. I think what makes more sense honestly is to just try to find someone who can replace the slot when Maddox needs to move back.

I guess they could try it anyway though, there are exceptions to all of these rules. Pull up Kam Chancellor's Spider Chart and you'll see what I mean.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

That's the main thing.  No drop off.

Replacing our replaceable free agents with equal talent at a lower price was all I realistically hoped to accomplish this year. 

I think that's a best case scenario.  Obviously the pro personnel people in the league valued the players we lost and the players we signed very differently

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Fred Warner is 235, Lavonte David is 233, Nakobe Dean is 231.

How heavy do you want these LBs to be?

Saw two weights for Morrow. One was 216 the other was 220ish. Between he and Dean it has to be one of the lightest tandems in the league. Maybe it won't end up mattering, but definitely need some insurance and depth at some point.

 

2 hours ago, TEW said:

Would you take Marshall Faulk at 30? Westbrook? CMC?

First of all, the 2nd contract is irrelevant. It is a completely different opportunity cost. The opportunity cost is 5 years of Gibbs vs 5 years of whatever other player you would select.

And usually, the opportunity cost is too high to take a RB because the marginal improvement over replacement is low compared to other positions. HOWEVER, Gibbs is unique. And I don’t throw that term around lightly. His combination of speed, hand size, catching ability, and open field moves are unprecedented.

I’ve made the comparison before, but Faulk is the only player who has ever come close as a prospect. Faulk was slightly bigger, slightly slower, with smaller hands. It’s not going out on a limb to say that Gibbs has the potential (obviously nothing is guaranteed) to be the greatest receiving back of all time. He has elite deep threat speed by WR standards. He has elite open field moves by RB standards. His hand size is above average by WR standards. And he has a legitimate RB body. 

As far as RB vs WR, the meta with him is that he is a WR/RB hybrid who can legitimately play both positions. That being the case, you want him at RB because he will be more impactful to the overall offense in combination with Hurts as a running threat. If you just make him the slot receiver, you’re back to having a normal RB and lose the matchup advantage.

But with Gibbs at RB, every play becomes a stress test on the defensive personnel grouping. How many DBs and how many LBs are on the field? Because by simply moving Gibbs between RB and WR, you’re going to exploit whichever sacrifice the defense makes. Again, think back to those Rams teams and how great Faulk make them. Now imagine if Kurt Warner could run like Hurts. Because that’s the potential with Hurts, Gibbs, Brown, Smith and Goedert.

Here's my issue with RB...and if the usage could be curtailed to make it work, then I'd be all for it.

A high end offensive weapon should give an offense 1,100 to 1,500 yards.  That's great for a receiver or TE.

RB is tricky.  Behind a good OL, especially ours, some of those rushing yards are generic.  A nice committee should combine for 1,200.

I would want this theoretical RB to have a minimum 1,200 combined yards while carrying the football between the tackles fewer than 10 times per game.  Once you start to exceed 10 straight ahead between the tackles carries per game, then you are just eroding into the generic productivity of a cheaper committee...and you are exposing this unique weapon to significant wear and tear.  And then the coaches would need to resist the pitchforks of fans demanding that they pound the rock with the most exciting weapon on the team.

But ~8 carries per game at a high average, with extensive usage as a pass catching back and as a slot WR...even out wide if he can use that speed deep...that could be 650 rushing yards and 700 receiving yards, ideally with lots of red zone productivity.  

I suppose I could get behind that.  I just don't want to build ANY aspect of the offense around a weapon that will be at the bottom of a pile multiple times per game.

Westbrook, CMC, Faulk...they all had the ability to be used as I mentioned, but they all slotted in still as heavier use typical RBs...and all but Faulk have been plagued with major availability issues for their entire career.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I think that's a best case scenario.  Obviously the pro personnel people in the league valued the players we lost and the players we signed very differently

I wonder how much of that was musical chairs, and the Eagles being content letting the market come to them at strong safety type players and LB. We know the safety market bottomed out, and the Eagles weren’t linked to anyone other than CJGJ. There were reports that the Pats and Cowboys were interested in Morrow, but Dallas signed LVE and New England signed Mack Wilson. 

The Eagles knew they had starting spots available and would be an attractive landing spot for a person on a prove-it deal. Both Edmunds and Morrow took pay cuts despite career seasons. Maybe they missed out on better offers early in FA.

The days of 250 pound LBs have long since past. Some people (for whatever reason) still haven't caught onto that.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I wonder how much of that was musical chairs, and the Eagles being content letting the market come to them at strong safety type players and LB. We know the safety market bottomed out, and the Eagles weren’t linked to anyone other than CJGJ. There were reports that the Pats and Cowboys were interested in Morrow, but Dallas signed LVE and New England signed Mack Wilson. 

The Eagles knew they had starting spots available and would be an attractive landing spot for a person on a prove-it deal. Both Edmunds and Morrow took pay cuts despite career seasons. Maybe they missed out on better offers early in FA.

Maybe or maybe they are players who other teams don't view as starters.  They seem like lottery ticket signings to me.  You hope they pan out but might not be the best idea as a primary plan for penciled in starter.  That said I'm sure more moves are coming at some point. Just not sure who or where obviously

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Why CJ Spiller? He was terrible.

No one ever compares prospects to busts, but buts had athletic profiles and playing styles too…

 

12 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

The days of 250 pound LBs have long since past. Some people (for whatever reason) still haven't caught onto that.

Yup, unless they're 250 pound unicorns that run 4.5s and have loose hips we'll continue to see smaller LBs that can run and cover in a passing league.

18 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Maybe or maybe they are players who other teams don't view as starters.  They seem like lottery ticket signings to me.  You hope they pan out but might not be the best idea as a primary plan for penciled in starter.  That said I'm sure more moves are coming at some point. Just not sure who or where obviously

Ideally they wouldn’t be starters. I assume teams look at them as replacement level starters. Teams smartly don’t throw good money at those types of players. 

Looking around and I think teams were much smarter with their money this year. There aren’t a lot of ridiculous contracts handed out, which I assumed would happen since there was so much available money even in a weaker FA class. 

Teams were able to bargain shop for some pretty good players expected to command a lot more in the FA market. The obvious names are Dalton Schultz, safeties not named Jessie Bates, DJ Chark, Seumalo, just about every RB outside of Montgomery and Sanders, Murphy-Bunting, etc.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I keep comparing him to Paschal last year,  who I loved.  In round 2.

Could play all along the DL. Very strong.  Physical.  Could probably get after the QB if allowed to more. 

Seems like Van Ness and Anudike-Uzomah would almost be redundant.  Now, I could see Howie looking at Nolan Smith as a Hassan Reddick type player at 10 then going with someone like Anudike-Uzomah at 30.

I wish I could get that RAS comparison to work so I could see them side by side 🤷‍♂️

Not a ton of free agents left I love. Still hoping for Ngakoue as a replacement for Robert Quinn as a situational pass rusher, but I doubt it. He prob gets a starting gig somewhere.

Other than that, Rapp and Amos(which neither excite me a ton and probably Rapp is too expensive). Or McLeod for cheap depth.

DeAndre Carter depending on price wouldn't be a bad pickup. Can return and be depth WR.

Could sign Trai Turner as a depth IOL so Philly can have the two Turners who spell their names the dumbest way possible.

Michael Dunn could be interesting as a versatile IOL piece with experience at G and C.

And Matt Ioannidis is an interesting name for DT depth.

45 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

The Dickerson/Mailata bromance is the stuff of legends. And I'm here for all of it.

48 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

He got Howie to be a groomsman.  Impressive 

CJ Spiller in college = what we describe Gibbs to be.

And Spiller was a better college player than Gibbs.