4 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I like Simmons a lot, only problem is he’s going to get that contract Javon just left for

He’ll top it being only 25. Only Donald will be making more than him I’d guess. 

3 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Are you swearing at me right now?

No, I’m Final Fouring you.

Big YaYa Diaby fan , more I watch of him the bigger fan I become .

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He’ll top it being only 25. Only Donald will be making more than him I’d guess. 

Agreed and I don't that's in the budget with the Hurts contract and Devonta extension

21 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You don’t want your DTs playing more than 60% of the snaps.  Ideally no more than 50%.  Keeps the players fresh, which is a huge advantage over the O-line players who take 100% of the snaps barring injury.

depends how good your DT are.  Cox was over 70% the majority of his career and often over 80%.  His effectivness dwindled as he got older but nothing to do with his snap counts.  

 

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

Well in this case yeah, the Titans are trading away a stud DT in his prime. They will be getting a nice package back. The eagles have to decipher if that's too much and will his contract also be too much. Not an easy decision at all. Odds are not in our favor this time. 

You are ignoring the fact that Simmons wants to leave Tennessee.  They could well end up with nothing.

3 hours ago, RLC said:

Deonte Banks in a trade-down is such a great option. May not last past 16.

I would agree with you if there isn’t a run on O-linemen.  Bijan should go before Banks, but that definitely isn’t a sure thing.  
 

Who do you think goes first, Banks or Porter?

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You are ignoring the fact that Simmons wants to leave Tennessee.  They could well end up with nothing.

Just circling back.  Simmons has played 80%, 85% and 83% of the snaps since his rookie year when he was injured.  If the Eagles were to trade for him and pay top dollar, do you want him playing 60% of the snaps?

Matt Miller reporting some GMs project Ringo as more of a safety at the NFL level than CB. I concur.

57 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Serious question:

Falcons trade up to 3 and take Anthony Richardson; Will Anderson is still available at 5.

if 10 and 30 got you Will Anderson and a 3rd, is there any other (realistic) scenario that’d make this draft better?

Once upon a time the Saints pick was #5.  When it moved to #10 Anderson lost his luster for me.  The cost outweighs the value IMO.

22 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Agreed and I don't that's in the budget with the Hurts contract and Devonta extension

If you gave Howie truth serum I think he would say in a vacuum he would budget Simmons in over DeVonta 

Am I the only one who is extremely skeptical that JD will ever be a difference maker? My skepticism started with the GA d-line that was absolutely loaded. Not all of them will be good NFL players.

Rising tides raise all ships.

Hope I’m wrong because he has to be a hit.

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Just circling back.  Simmons has played 80%, 85% and 83% of the snaps since his rookie year when he was injured.  If the Eagles were to trade for him and pay top dollar, do you want him playing 60% of the snaps?

Yes.  A tired DT is a liability.  You want them fresh.  

4 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Am I the only one who is extremely skeptical that JD will ever be a difference maker? My skepticism started with the GA d-line that was absolutely loaded. Not all of them will be good NFL players.

Rising tides raise all ships.

Hope I’m wrong because he has to be a hit.

I hope you are wrong too.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Yes.  A tired DT is a liability.  You want them fresh.  

Agree with you there but there are some that can handle that workload.  Simmons has proven to be one of those guys. Not saying I want to trade a high pick and then pay a huge salary he can play at a high level while playing a lot of snaps.  Cox was that guy for a while too.  

Not arguing with you about usage.  I thought Hargrave was used just the right amount last year and he was at 65%.  He had a career year.  Point I was making is that there are a lot of vacant snaps to be used and drafting an IDL ealry would make sense.

I'm going through a challenging, but interesting time with my job.  My contract is expiring and negotiations on an extension deteriorated into being a bit contentious, which I eventually broke off, then they got back on track with, presently, slow progress.  This is amidst my department not having a chairperson, who is the equivalent of a combined coach/GM/VP football operations.

It's remarkable the stupid, yet important wisdom and perspective I've picked up from years of arguing with you guys and from debating the perspectives of players, owners, agents, and coaches.  Some key things that really could apply to all of us:

1.  Never take contract negotiations personally.  When you do, you are the unreasonable a-hole who will box yourself into a corner.  You are a sofa.  Your employer is going to a yard sale to buy a sofa.  They want the best one possible and want to get it for the lowest price possible.  If your requirements intersect, great.  If not, shake hands and move on.  

2. It's not about the money, but it's about the money.  EVERYONE wants more money.  Everyone is willing to move on for a job that provides life-changing money relative to other jobs.  From football players to janitors, most (but not all) competing job options do not ofter life-changing money with respect to each other.  Things get personal and acrimonious when the non-life-changing pay gap is perceived as a sleight to one's value.

3.  When hiring, first round picks don't always outperform late rounders.  But it sure stings more when you don't hit on the high picks.  And when looking for a leader, the sexy up and coming names on the HC/manager circuit might be the ones that arrogantly blow everything up, while the laughable "they aren't qualified for this" off the radar options just might get you to the promised land.  Or vice versa.  It's a crapshoot.

 

 

 

45 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Agree with you there but there are some that can handle that workload.  Simmons has proven to be one of those guys. Not saying I want to trade a high pick and then pay a huge salary he can play at a high level while playing a lot of snaps.  Cox was that guy for a while too.  

Not arguing with you about usage.  I thought Hargrave was used just the right amount last year and he was at 65%.  He had a career year.  Point I was making is that there are a lot of vacant snaps to be used and drafting an IDL ealry would make sense.

I personally felt Hargrave’s usage was less than ideal.  They got locked into pairing him with Cox too absolutely IMO.  I woul have liked Gannon to have rotated in one of the DTs other than Cox for approximately 10% of Hargrave’s snaps.  I believe that would have posed problems for the opposing O-line.  But that is water over the dam at this point.

49 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I hope you are wrong too.

 

54 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Am I the only one who is extremely skeptical that JD will ever be a difference maker? My skepticism started with the GA d-line that was absolutely loaded. Not all of them will be good NFL players.

Rising tides raise all ships.

Hope I’m wrong because he has to be a hit.

I developed a reputation as JD's biggest "hater" late in the season...somewhat unfairly.  

I love the prospect, like the pick.  I was slightly pessimistic from the perspective that big interior DL usually fill a role, admirably, but never have game changing impact...especially in a passing league.  But his unique athleticism opened up the potential for him to be something more.  I still hold onto those hopes.

I simply pointed out that he was B-A-D last year.  He looked out of shape, unathletic, flashed almost zero of that rare athleticism and explosion...he'd stand straight up out of his stance and stand around.  He.  looked.  terrible.  And no one really wanted to admit it since he's a young first round pick.  So I naturally took the contentious position to point that out.

I still am not necessarily betting against him turning it around.  But he does need to be a COMPLETELY different player next year.  Letting Hargrave go and not making any moves besides Cox at DT is extremely encouraging...it shows me that the Eagles still hold hope he can hit that potential (along with Williams).  If they over-extended themselves to keep Hargrave, I'd be freaking out about Davis.  

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I personally felt Hargrave’s usage was less than ideal.  They got locked into pairing him with Cox too absolutely IMO.  I woul have liked Gannon to have rotated in one of the DTs other than Cox for approximately 10% of Hargrave’s snaps.  I believe that would have posed problems for the opposing O-line.  But that is water over the dam at this point.

If Williams can grow into Hargrave's shoes (I think he can) and Davis can play to his explosion numbers, then they might have a chance to generate those problems.  

Although I do think Cox has taken on too much criticism recently.  In an ideal world, he's the #3 DT this year.  If Cox can dip below 50% of the snaps, I think he'll be more impactful when he is on the field.  He's an old dude now, but he can still get it going in spurts.

Has there ever been a good draft hat?

7 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Didn't a lot of the draft gurus really like Barnett becaues of his "bend" though?

I recall hype about ankle flexibility…

both howie and…was it douglas??…were hype about him

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Has there ever been a good draft hat?

My sources say no

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Has there ever been a good draft hat?

I buy a lot of junk from the Eagles but never a draft hat.  Though I do hear for a limited time they do have free shipping 

16 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

 

I developed a reputation as JD's biggest "hater" late in the season...somewhat unfairly.  

I love the prospect, like the pick.  I was slightly pessimistic from the perspective that big interior DL usually fill a role, admirably, but never have game changing impact...especially in a passing league.  But his unique athleticism opened up the potential for him to be something more.  I still hold onto those hopes.

I simply pointed out that he was B-A-D last year.  He looked out of shape, unathletic, flashed almost zero of that rare athleticism and explosion...he'd stand straight up out of his stance and stand around.  He.  looked.  terrible.  And no one really wanted to admit it since he's a young first round pick.  So I naturally took the contentious position to point that out.

I still am not necessarily betting against him turning it around.  But he does need to be a COMPLETELY different player next year.  Letting Hargrave go and not making any moves besides Cox at DT is extremely encouraging...it shows me that the Eagles still hold hope he can hit that potential (along with Williams).  If they over-extended themselves to keep Hargrave, I'd be freaking out about Davis.  

Williams was really playing well towards the end of the season imho

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Has there ever been a good draft hat?

The green one, white hats get too dirty.

And no there's never been a good draft hat ...😊