6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Was listening to Cosell, and he has questions about Witherspoon as an outside corner. He wonders if he ends up a slot, although he liked his tape. He loved Gonzalez and Banks. 

I would be over the moon if their first two picks were Witherspoon and Banks.

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I'm starting to think the Eagles should trade down from 10 unless someone unexpected falls to them. I think guys like Murphy, Van Ness, Smith, Kancey, etc are similar and they could get one of them if they moved down a few spots. One or two of the corners and Branch could be also around a few spots back. I don't want to see them move way down (past 15 or so) but a trade down looks like the right move since they are probably just out of range of the handful of real elite prospects that are in this draft.

I don't think those guys are similar at all but a trade down might be the right move regardless

11 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I don't think those guys are similar at all but a trade down might be the right move regardless

Who would teams be trading up for? I don’t see a lot of talent sitting there at 10 that’s vastly different than 15-20.

Maybe a QB falls and someone wants to jump the Titans?

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

Who would teams be trading up for? I don’t see a lot of talent sitting there at 10 that’s vastly different than 15-20.

Maybe a QB falls and someone wants to jump the Titans?

OL or WR possible. Maybe CB if we’re not interested 

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

Terrelle Pryor never played WR.  Then he played WR and became a 1000 yard receiver.
Taysom Hill was always a QB.  Then they decided to have Taysom do everything.

There is a long list of players doing more than the one single thing you think they're capable of.

I guess all the coaches who are actually having players do a different thing or multiple things are all 12 year olds?

Just because your brain is too limited to see the diverse possibilities doesn't mean that I can't see them,  or that coaches can't see them.  

My history over the last 10 years has a pretty good amount of me saying things like "this guy could be good at another position"  and then,  that thing happens. Over and over. 

And by the way,   Lane Johnson caught a TD pass in a regular season game recently for the Eagles.

So,  I guess innovation and versatility are so unpleasant to you that you block out actual Eagles TDs that actually happened.

I mentioned before that I'm not interested in the Eagles spending big on a Quez replace or upgrade, because the slot isn't a real position.  I'd rather that spot be a spot for a versatile back,  and I don't want the same guy to take the snaps over and over.   Lane Johnson could be in that versatile back spot,  so could Cam Jurgens, Kelce, Mailata,  pretty much any OL.   Pretty much any player on defense in theory.   Siri mentioned that Fletcher Cox would like to participate on offense.  I'd be in favor of that.  

The Eagles offense last year had a lot of star QB throwing to 2 star WRs and 1 star TE.  Got to the Super Bowl, it worked.  Same 4 stars are there this year.   Quez is fine, but I'd like to see snaps taken from Quez and given to the versatile back,  whoever it might be, whatever he might do. 
 

 

8 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Who would teams be trading up for? I don’t see a lot of talent sitting there at 10 that’s vastly different than 15-20.

Maybe a QB falls and someone wants to jump the Titans?

Yup. Unless there’s a QB I don’t see why anyone is desperately trading up to #10.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yup. Unless there’s a QB I don’t see why anyone is desperately trading up to #10.

I could see somebody going up for bijan if he slips to mid round 

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

 

I thought the Mailata at FB had been put to bed.

One doesn't take their starting LT most valuable position on offense next to QB and open him up to injury giving him the ball on a hand off.

He'd get cut down and knee capped in a second.

In Rugby low tackles are illegal, they teach cheek to cheek, face cheek to butt cheek, that's the target, chopping a guy down in rugby is illegal in football it's not.

Others say ok line him up at TE?

Showing a rugby highlight doesn't show that he can play TE, every pass in rugby is going back wards it's a different skill set, I'm not saying he couldn't run a route in the end zone at TE but showing a rugby clip shows absolutely nothing that would indicate he can.

😒

 

 

 

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

I'm starting to think the Eagles should trade down from 10 unless someone unexpected falls to them. I think guys like Murphy, Van Ness, Smith, Kancey, etc are similar and they could get one of them if they moved down a few spots. One or two of the corners and Branch could be also around a few spots back. I don't want to see them move way down (past 15 or so) but a trade down looks like the right move since they are probably just out of range of the handful of real elite prospects that are in this draft.

That’s how I’ve felt for a couple weeks now. I have a feeling when it gets to 10 unless Carter, Witherspoon, Gonzalez, Wilson fall to that pick i think it makes more sense to trade back and get more picks. If those guys are off the board i tend to think picks 10-22 are graded fairly equally and you can trade back 3-6 spots, still get one of those players you like and get some more picks in later rounds that the eagles need. I think the bigger question is being able to get good value in finding someone willing to trade up from 12-18 for one of the players available if those guys are off the board. Not sure other teams trade up unless Levis is there or they want Richardson or believe one of those tackles is their future LT 

1 hour ago, Texas Eagle said:

Who would teams be trading up for? I don’t see a lot of talent sitting there at 10 that’s vastly different than 15-20.

Maybe a QB falls and someone wants to jump the Titans?

I’ve been hearing Hendon Hooker talk in the last week. Of course, it is lying season.

22 minutes ago, SB52 said:

I’ve been hearing Henson Hooker talk in the last week. Of course, it is lying season.

They lied to you when they said Henson.

It's Hendon.

Those Muppets are liars.

57 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I thought the Mailata at FB had been put to bed.

One doesn't take their starting LT most valuable position on offense next to QB and open him up to injury giving him the ball on a hand off.

He'd get cut down and knee capped in a second.

In Rugby low tackles are illegal, they teach cheek to cheek, face cheek to butt cheek, that's the target, chopping a guy down in rugby is illegal in football it's not.

Others say ok line him up at TE?

Showing a rugby highlight doesn't show that he can play TE, every pass in rugby is going back wards it's a different skill set, I'm not saying he couldn't run a route in the end zone at TE but showing a rugby clip shows absolutely nothing that would indicate he can.

😒

 

 

 

I get your argument.  But just because I get your argument doesn't mean that you've actually won the argument.

I'm suggesting that there is a position, called versatile back,  lines up typically at Left Halfback.  And pretty much anybody can play that position.  You don't want huge players running deep routes and light players pushing.

There is much that Mailata could do.  Push and be pushed seem to jump out.  He'd be part of a wedge. 

Football is generally dangerous.  If Mailata is out there as a versatile back, he's putting more hurt on them.   You innovate with these players.  I'm throwing to him and he's lateralling back.  Things like that.  Many Eagles could learn a handful of plays.  Mailata would largely be an additional blocker. And he can make TDs.  He can push Jalen or have Jalen push him.

39 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

I get your argument.  But just because I get your argument doesn't mean that you've actually won the argument.
 

To be honest you don’t have much of an argument, nobody really needs to "win” against you here. 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s how I’ve felt for a couple weeks now. I have a feeling when it gets to 10 unless Carter, Witherspoon, Gonzalez, Wilson fall to that pick i think it makes more sense to trade back and get more picks. If those guys are off the board i tend to think picks 10-22 are graded fairly equally and you can trade back 3-6 spots, still get one of those players you like and get some more picks in later rounds that the eagles need. I think the bigger question is being able to get good value in finding someone willing to trade up from 12-18 for one of the players available if those guys are off the board. Not sure other teams trade up unless Levis is there or they want Richardson or believe one of those tackles is their future LT 

Also why I think they’re going to take Robinson 

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

I would be over the moon if their first two picks were Witherspoon and Banks.

I kind of just want one CB this year so there is an outside chance we can still draft I need to find a new cliche next year. 

7 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

My history over the last 10 years has a pretty good amount of me saying things like "this guy could be good at another position"  and then,  that thing happens. Over and over. 
 

 

Ever thought about changing your screen name to Random Irregular?   Your thought of recasting is littered with failures and JAGs.   The remainders are trick plays from a player’s regular position. Thus irregular .

Wonder how many potential deals for draft day Howie lined up at the owners meeting. 

 

8 hours ago, Texas Eagle said:

Has anyone else not watched a single clip of the SB yet? I can’t bring myself to do it. That hurt more than any loss of any team in my life. More than ‘05.

I tried, but couldn't do it.

The loss hurt, but it's not top 5 for me. Don't think anything will top 2002 NFCCG.

8 hours ago, Texas Eagle said:

Has anyone else not watched a single clip of the SB yet? I can’t bring myself to do it. That hurt more than any loss of any team in my life. More than ‘05.

Same here.  The Eagles posted the mic'd up of it and couldn't watch that either.  

8 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree … not taking Kincaid at 10, but I’m also not taking JSN at 10 either.  Perhaps the question would be more useful if it were posed as an alternative at pick #30.  Another, different way to approach the comparison of the two receivers … they are both receivers who line up outside the OT but inside the WR … is to ask at what pick # in the Draft does each of them become the BPA on the Board?

I think if there are players like JSN, Darnell Washington, Bijan Robinson sitting there at 30 I'm tempted to take any of the 3.

8 hours ago, T-1000 said:

I'm starting to think the Eagles should trade down from 10 unless someone unexpected falls to them. I think guys like Murphy, Van Ness, Smith, Kancey, etc are similar and they could get one of them if they moved down a few spots. One or two of the corners and Branch could be also around a few spots back. I don't want to see them move way down (past 15 or so) but a trade down looks like the right move since they are probably just out of range of the handful of real elite prospects that are in this draft.

13 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=10989&p2=20033&pos=DT

Ras compare   Kancey and Aaron Donald. Ras doesn't have Kanceys new numbers up yet.

But  3 cone compare.   Kancey 6.82 vs Donald 7.11.
Shuttle Kancey 4.33 vs Donald 4.39 
Vert Kancey 33.5 vs Donald 32
Broad Kancey 9'4 vs Donald 9'8
Weight Kancey 283 vs Donald 285

Donald had an excellent bench of 35.  Don't see Kancey's.

Kancey has better 40 time,  10 split and 3 cone. 
 

Arm length is the biggest difference from what I remember. Which is important for an undersized guy.

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

If you had a choice between JSN and Dalton Kincaid, which would you choose?

JSN. 

11 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

 

You mean like trading Hurts for a pick that reunites Richardson with his college OC, Brian Johnson?   Most people would be against that.

It would take a lot of balls to say "we run a system that works great with day 3 running QBs,  they're disposible and we draft a lot of them, sometimes they can play RB, WR, TE or FB.  We can work with QBs that others cannot." 

There is the tendency to anoint whoever did well under any circumstances as THE guy, and he must get paid.   The NFL wants it that way. 

Running QBs are BEST and they're great year 1 if the running is cranked to max.   Lamar's rookie year,  first start,  26 rushes and a win.  6=1 that first year. Playoffs.  Max completions in a game that year, 14.

 

9 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

Can the Eagles use DJ Turner on jet sweeps and the like?  Outside running?  Perhaps stretch the field from the slot?  4.26 at the combine is fast. 

 

8 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

Terrelle Pryor never played WR.  Then he played WR and became a 1000 yard receiver.
Taysom Hill was always a QB.  Then they decided to have Taysom do everything.

There is a long list of players doing more than the one single thing you think they're capable of.

I guess all the coaches who are actually having players do a different thing or multiple things are all 12 year olds?

Just because your brain is too limited to see the diverse possibilities doesn't mean that I can't see them,  or that coaches can't see them.  

My history over the last 10 years has a pretty good amount of me saying things like "this guy could be good at another position"  and then,  that thing happens. Over and over. 

And by the way,   Lane Johnson caught a TD pass in a regular season game recently for the Eagles.

So,  I guess innovation and versatility are so unpleasant to you that you block out actual Eagles TDs that actually happened.

I mentioned before that I'm not interested in the Eagles spending big on a Quez replace or upgrade, because the slot isn't a real position.  I'd rather that spot be a spot for a versatile back,  and I don't want the same guy to take the snaps over and over.   Lane Johnson could be in that versatile back spot,  so could Cam Jurgens, Kelce, Mailata,  pretty much any OL.   Pretty much any player on defense in theory.   Siri mentioned that Fletcher Cox would like to participate on offense.  I'd be in favor of that.  

The Eagles offense last year had a lot of star QB throwing to 2 star WRs and 1 star TE.  Got to the Super Bowl, it worked.  Same 4 stars are there this year.   Quez is fine, but I'd like to see snaps taken from Quez and given to the versatile back,  whoever it might be, whatever he might do. 
 

 

Could I have you come up to do an assembly at my kids school about the dangers of bath salts?

47 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Wonder how many potential deals for draft day Howie lined up at the owners meeting. 

All of them.