@ManuManu Im continuing with the Kollman edge rusher rankings video. At 47:00 he begins talking about Zach Harrison, and Foskey together. He feels they are pretty much the same. The knock seems to be their 3 cone time. Teams dont feel they have the bend. Teams looking for 7 or sub-7 3 cone times, and these guys ran it at around 7.3. 

Kollman brings up a sleeper (to us) at edge rusher. Jose Ramirez. Lead college football in sacks. Level of competition question mark at eastern michigan. But has won every way possible on the way to the QB.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Kollman brings up a sleeper (to us) at edge rusher. Jose Ramirez. Lead college football in sacks. Level of competition question mark at eastern michigan. But has won every way possible on the way to the QB.

How did he and Witt respectively do when they played against each other … assuming they did actually play against oneanother?

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Kollman brings up a sleeper (to us) at edge rusher. Jose Ramirez. Lead college football in sacks. Level of competition question mark at eastern michigan. But has won every way possible on the way to the QB.

The Eagles DL coach (I believe) ran the drills at his pro day. 

 

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

@ManuManu Im continuing with the Kollman edge rusher rankings video. At 47:00 he begins talking about Zach Harrison, and Foskey together. He feels they are pretty much the same. The knock seems to be their 3 cone time. Teams dont feel they have the bend. Teams looking for 7 or sub-7 3 cone times, and these guys ran it at around 7.3. 

Myles Murphy doesn’t have great bend and had a 7.22 3 cone at his pro day. He’s not as productive as Foskey either. He does outweigh him by about 15 pounds. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Myles Murphy doesn’t have great bend and had a 7.22 3 cone at his pro day. He’s not as productive as Foskey either. He does outweigh him by about 15 pounds. 

I'm not enamored with either. 

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

How did he and Witt respectively do when they played against each other … assuming they did actually play against oneanother?

Dont know. Youd have to see if you can find that game on youtube.

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The Eagles DL coach (I believe) ran the drills at his pro day. 

Nice. Hes in Kollmans tier 3, and he says he actually has conficence he can become a 10+ sack guy even as an early day 3 pick. Thats just how deep this edge class is.

 

 

Another sleeper to us, the other Louisville edge. We know Diaby. Yasir Abdullah is smaller, around 240. Mentions Fangio tree coaches will love him as a SAM backer. So, someone for us to know. Ran a 4.47 with a ridiculous 10 yard split. 

It seems if we want a Reddick style player we can have Nolan Smith, Will McDonald, Nick Hampton, or Yasir Abdullah, and we would be doing pretty well with any of them. 

Another Kollman nugget as I continue through his vid.

The other DE at Clemson, KJ Henry had a higher pass rush win rate than Myles Murphy. 16.3% vs 13.9%. Bresee was at 14.3%

He had Murphy in tier 1 and seemed very high on him. Henry is in his tier 4 because he lacks the tools and wins with technique and effort.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont know. Youd have to see if you can find that game on youtube.

Nice. Hes in Kollmans tier 3, and he says he actually has conficence he can become a 10+ sack guy even as an early day 3 pick. Thats just how deep this edge class is.

 

 

Another sleeper to us, the other Louisville edge. We know Diaby. Yasir Abdullah is smaller, around 240. Mentions Fangio tree coaches will love him as a SAM backer. So, someone for us to know. Ran a 4.47 with a ridiculous 10 yard split. 

It seems if we want a Reddick style player we can have Nolan Smith, Will McDonald, Nick Hampton, or Yasir Abdullah, and we would be doing pretty well with any of them. 

Ramirez was a sixth-year senior and will be a 24 year old rookie. He is pretty undersized. Brugler has him as a 6th round pick. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ramirez was a sixth-year senior and will be a 24 year old rookie. He is pretty undersized. Brugler has him as a 6th round pick. 

Age sucks but as a 6th rounder, that could be a steal.

 

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Another Kollman nugget as I continue through his vid.

The other DE at Clemson, KJ Henry had a higher pass rush win rate than Myles Murphy. 16.3% vs 13.9%. Bresee was at 14.3%

He had Murphy in tier 1 and seemed very high on him. Henry is in his tier 4 because he lacks the tools and wins with technique and effort.

I like Bresee. He had a rough year but once he gets in the league and settled I think he will be a good one. 

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ramirez was a sixth-year senior and will be a 24 year old rookie. He is pretty undersized. Brugler has him as a 6th round pick. 

Another one who is old and pretty good. BJ Thompson. Baylor transfer to Stephen F Austin. 6 year college career. He was in the same recruiting class as Chase Young...

Bruce Feldman freak. 6'5'' 240. 11'3'' broad jump. 4.56 40, 40'' vert, 4.2 shuttle.

46 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

We have a 4 year window with Hurts' contract, we need a player at #10 who has the biggest impact during those 4 years. Bijan is one of the 3-4 players in this draft that does that.

Any competent rb can do that

Not even sire how Henry would work in a read option shotgun style scheme.  He's more of a line up under center and run it style RB.  Reminds of of bringing DeMarco Murray into Chip Kelly's offense.

I agree, I don't think Bijan's impact would be that great. Not because he isn't great but because the OL and Hurts have such an amazing impact on the run game, I think it makes any RB we have look so good that when Bijan comes here it would kinda look relatively the same.

I think you'd see a much greater difference with Sanders vs Bijan on a team without a competent OL.

To me our run game with Sanders vs Bijan is like comparing a 7/10 looking woman with a 9/10 looking woman. Without makeup you're going to notice a difference.

But bring that 7/10 and 9/10 woman to a top of the line Hollywood professional makeup artist and stylist team and once they get done with both girls, they're both going to look very close in terms of attractiveness. You might have a slight preference to the 9/10 girl, but it's not going to be nearly as drastic than they'd look without the makeup artist and stylist.

The Eagles OL and Hurts are the ultimate equalizer in that regard. I think the greater the OL you have, the less drastic your RB upgrades are going to be because they open up such consistent holes and block down field so well that there isn't going to be a ton of meat left on the bone to make it worthwhile. Sure there will be some plays here and there, but not enough to make it worth taking them over another more important position. Perhaps another OL that can keep that running game and pass protection dominant so they can continue to have a dominant running game without needing to invest big $ in a RB.

That's one underrated aspect of keeping this OL great. As long as they're great, they're saving you millions of dollars at the RB position. It allows them to more easily manage their cap.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I agree, I don't think Bijan's impact would be that great. Not because he isn't great but because the OL and Hurts have such an amazing impact on the run game, I think it makes any RB we have look so good that when Bijan comes here it would kinda look relatively the same.

I think you'd see a much greater difference with Sanders vs Bijan on a team without a competent OL.

To me our run game with Sanders vs Bijan is like comparing a 7/10 looking woman with a 9/10 looking woman. Without makeup you're going to notice a difference.

But bring that 7/10 and 9/10 woman to a top of the line Hollywood professional makeup artist and stylist team and once they get done with both girls, they're both going to look very close in terms of attractiveness. You might have a slight preference to the 9/10 girl, but it's not going to be nearly as drastic than they'd look without the makeup artist and stylist.

The Eagles OL and Hurts are the ultimate equalizer in that regard. I think the greater the OL you have, the less drastic your RB upgrades are going to be because they open up such consistent holes and block down field so well that there isn't going to be a ton of meat left on the bone to make it worthwhile. Sure there will be some plays here and there, but not enough to make it worth taking them over another more important position. Perhaps another OL that can keep that running game and pass protection dominant so they can continue to have a dominant running game without needing to invest big $ in a RB.

That's one underrated aspect of keeping this OL great. As long as they're great, they're saving you millions of dollars at the RB position. It allows them to more easily manage their cap.

Good analogy but OL is actually more expensive than RBs

Ikenna Enechukwu is impressive. When you look at a guy like Brodrick Bunkley, Shawn Okaman, Javon Kinlaw... those ridiculous physiques, you envision them being as physically overpowering, nast, and dominant as Enechukwu.

Issue is level of competition playign at Rice. But he man handled USCs O line and made Caleb Williams run all over the place. And played well at the shrine bowl. 

1:14:00 in the Kollman video, some fun highlights.

 

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Good analogy but OL is actually more expensive than RBs

Well yeah, but the cost pays off. I'm going under the assumption that if your OL sucks, a team may be more willing to pay more for RBs to improve their running game, they'll likely fall short anyway(because their OL sucks... as most teams with crap OLs do fall short) and then pay a F ton to upgrade their OL and then they're in a position where they have an expensive RB and an expensive OL. If you invest in the OL first, then you don't have to worry about investing in RB in the first place.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Well yeah, but the cost pays off. I'm going under the assumption that if your OL sucks, a team may be more willing to pay more for RBs to improve their running game, they'll likely fall short anyway(because their OL sucks... as most teams with crap OLs do fall short) and then pay a F ton to upgrade their OL and then they're in a position where they have an expensive RB and an expensive OL. If you invest in the OL first, then you don't have to worry about investing in RB in the first place.

To an extent, in your analogy your 7 of 10 was a 2nd rd pick RB. Sure that's not pick 10 but it's not just any old guy either

Did anyone watch the Orlando/St.Louis XFL game?  It was really exciting to watch and STL fans have come out in full force to support that team  You wouldn't think only the bottom bowl was full in the dome.  They've been good games to watch.  AJ McCarron has been dealing too.  

XFL>USFL and it isn't close right now.

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Any competent rb can do that

This simply isn’t true. I’m sorry but it’s not. There are 20 or so RBs that come out every year and a few hit. Let’s stop pretending breece hall and Ken walker are the same as the 5-7 round guys. Anybody who saw breece play knows there is value there. 

52 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I agree, I don't think Bijan's impact would be that great. Not because he isn't great but because the OL and Hurts have such an amazing impact on the run game, I think it makes any RB we have look so good that when Bijan comes here it would kinda look relatively the same.

I think you'd see a much greater difference with Sanders vs Bijan on a team without a competent OL.

To me our run game with Sanders vs Bijan is like comparing a 7/10 looking woman with a 9/10 looking woman. Without makeup you're going to notice a difference.

But bring that 7/10 and 9/10 woman to a top of the line Hollywood professional makeup artist and stylist team and once they get done with both girls, they're both going to look very close in terms of attractiveness. You might have a slight preference to the 9/10 girl, but it's not going to be nearly as drastic than they'd look without the makeup artist and stylist.

The Eagles OL and Hurts are the ultimate equalizer in that regard. I think the greater the OL you have, the less drastic your RB upgrades are going to be because they open up such consistent holes and block down field so well that there isn't going to be a ton of meat left on the bone to make it worthwhile. Sure there will be some plays here and there, but not enough to make it worth taking them over another more important position. Perhaps another OL that can keep that running game and pass protection dominant so they can continue to have a dominant running game without needing to invest big $ in a RB.

That's one underrated aspect of keeping this OL great. As long as they're great, they're saving you millions of dollars at the RB position. It allows them to more easily manage their cap.

Why do you say Hurts has an amazing impact on the run game, and is the ultimate equalizer?  Is it because he’s the one doing the heavy lifting in the run game?

@ManuManu

When are you going to post your late day 3/UDFA TE big board? 

Still no Henry at the airport wtf