November 20, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: The premise was finding a historical comparison for Putin, who is actively invading sovereign countries and wiping out their population. It's Hitler. You mentioned Stalin. He invaded neighboring countries as an ally of Hitler and the NSDAPs during WWII. Afterward, he spent a few years installing sympathetic leaders in Eastern European countries until he got sick and died. Maybe you can shoot me over a link referencing the post-WWII genocides Stalin perpetrated in his final few years after the war? DHF searching for a rebuttal.
November 20, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: DHF searching for a rebuttal. Coming back from a hike. Have some patience According to a 1993 study of recently declassified archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag (not including labor colonies) from 1934 to 1953 (there was no archival data for the period 1919–1934).[17]: 1024 More recent archival figures for the deaths in the Gulag, labor colonies and prisons combined for 1931–1953 were 1.713 million.[15] According to historian Michael Ellman, non-state estimates of the actual Gulag death toll are usually higher because historians such as Robert Conquest took into account the likelihood of unreliable record keeping.[18] According to author Anne Applebaum, it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or near death.[19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/joseph-stalin.htm It continued after the war. So what were you saying TNT? It's also cute how he made the USSR and Stalin's rule seem like a friendly agreement where Soviet totalitarianism didn't exist.
November 20, 20241 yr 42 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Coming back from a hike. Have some patience According to a 1993 study of recently declassified archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag (not including labor colonies) from 1934 to 1953 (there was no archival data for the period 1919–1934).[17]: 1024 More recent archival figures for the deaths in the Gulag, labor colonies and prisons combined for 1931–1953 were 1.713 million.[15] According to historian Michael Ellman, non-state estimates of the actual Gulag death toll are usually higher because historians such as Robert Conquest took into account the likelihood of unreliable record keeping.[18] According to author Anne Applebaum, it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or near death.[19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/joseph-stalin.htm I'll make this real quick since you've decided to take us down a rabbit hole of what is and isn't genocide, which CVON has already done before ad nauseum, instead of being willing to explain to everyone why you sympathize with genocidal dictators... You can very clearly see what's going on there. Stalin stroked out and had a heart attack in '45. He was dead by '53. Also, the Gulag itself wasn't genocide. It was a tool sometimes used for genocide. Other times it was forced famine. Not everyone in there was a victim of genocide. It was their prison system. Anyway, I am not going to get trapped into arguing semantics. I won't pretend to understand why you tolerate Putin's invasion and genocide, even making excuses for them. I can only give the facts and show you that you're misinformed. If you want to continue to be a Putin apologist and shift the blame for his evil on Trump's political enemies, that's certainly your choice.
November 20, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: I'll make this real quick since you've decided to take us down a rabbit hole of what is and isn't genocide, which CVON has already done before ad nauseum, instead of being willing to explain to everyone why you sympathize with genocidal dictators... You can very clearly see what's going on there. Stalin stroked out and had a heart attack in '45. He was dead by '53. Also, the Gulag itself wasn't genocide. It was a tool sometimes used for genocide. Other times it was forced famine. Not everyone in there was a victim of genocide. It was their prison system. Anyway, I am not going to get trapped into arguing semantics. I won't pretend to understand why you tolerate Putin's invasion and genocide, even making excuses for them. I can only give the facts and show you that you're misinformed. If you want to continue to be a Putin apologist and shift the blame for his evil on Trump's political enemies, that's certainly your choice. That's splitting hairs, but I think we agree to move on. Bottom line is I wouldn't want to be Putin when I die. I'm not defending what he did, but he was more restrained than I think the US would have been. We can agree he is evil, but that doesn't alleviate the US for their part in things since the early 90s. We can justify it as much as we want, but if Russia was doing it in LATAM/Mexico we'd have taken steps. My last point on Ukraine is escalating it now when both agreed to talk about peace is dangerous and irresponsible. There are only three outcomes and none of them help Ukraine win because they are never going to. 1 Nothing happens and we risked WW3 for no reason. 2 He launches something into Poland and NATO drags us into a war where our people die needlessly. 3 He sends something into US soil and WW3 happens. Unless someone honestly thinks the US jumping into war is a good thing how can anyone justify giving them the go at this point?
November 20, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, The_Omega said: I don't know, man. Sex with a 17 year old while you're in your 30s seems pretty wrong. That's just me though.
November 20, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Paul852 said: I don't know, man. Sex with a 17 year old while you're in your 30s seems pretty wrong. That's just me though. Missed the 80's through the 90's?
November 20, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: CVON has officially entered its pedo defense era "Epstein was just misunderstood."
November 20, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, mr_hunt said: "So far" So many people need so much prison time. Soon.
November 20, 20241 yr this is some team cheeto is putting together....a pedo who paid underaged girls for sex, a fox news host accused of sexual assault, a guy suffering from brain damage caused by a brain-worm, a russian asset, elon musk, dr oz, & vince mcmahon's wife. what a f'n clown show
November 20, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: this is some team cheeto is putting together....a pedo who paid underaged girls for sex, another guy accused of sexual assault, a guy suffering from brain damage caused by a brain-worm, a russian asset, elon musk, dr oz, & vince mcmahon's wife. what a f'n clown show A guy from "Road Rules" is gonna be the secretary of transportation.
November 20, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: this is some team cheeto is putting together....a pedo who paid underaged girls for sex, another guy accused of sexual assault, a guy suffering from brain damage caused by a brain-worm, a russian asset, elon musk, dr oz, & vince mcmahon's wife. what a f'n clown show Did you mention the FoxNews correspondent who is also a sex abuser?
November 20, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: Did you mention the FoxNews correspondent who is also a sex abuser? yeah..i just clarified it in my post. it's really a who's who of incompetent quacks.
November 20, 20241 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: Boebert for Secretary of Arts and Culture please I hear she goes down in a theater.
November 20, 20241 yr I was talking to a 30 yr old guy at work about retirement, and he said "I’ll never be able to retire in this economy.” I said that the economy has been on fire for awhile. He replied with, "well now that trump is in office I’ll be OK, but he will only be there for four years.” I made a negative comment about trump being a POS, and that he could destroy the economy if he does half the crap he said he would. He came back with "You are a Kamala supporter aren’t ya.” I said not really, I just don’t like authoritarian criminals who constantly sheet on the military. Retiring at 62 is looking better and better.
November 20, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I was talking to a 30 yr old guy at work about retirement, and he said "I’ll never be able to retire in this economy.” I said that the economy has been on fire for awhile. He replied with, "well now that trump is in office I’ll be OK, but he will only be there for four years.” I made a negative comment about trump being a POS, and that he could destroy the economy if he does half the crap he said he would. He came back with "You are a Kamala supporter aren’t ya.” I said not really, I just don’t like authoritarian criminals who constantly sheet on the military. Retiring at 62 is looking better and better. To be a fly on the wall at the office since Kamala got destroyed.
November 20, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I was talking to a 30 yr old guy at work about retirement, and he said "I’ll never be able to retire in this economy.” I said that the economy has been on fire for awhile. He replied with, "well now that trump is in office I’ll be OK, but he will only be there for four years.” I made a negative comment about trump being a POS, and that he could destroy the economy if he does half the crap he said he would. He came back with "You are a Kamala supporter aren’t ya.” I said not really, I just don’t like authoritarian criminals who constantly sheet on the military. Retiring at 62 is looking better and better. If he's 30 years old and already saying "I'll never be able to retire in this economy", he's a moron.
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