July 5, 20241 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: That's literally just a draft. Imagine cutting your balls off for...Vladamir Putin. You are definitely way braver than me because you support a war you'll never take part in. Way to stand up to Putin, Van.
July 5, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: Never said it was weird. Just that a lot of people are being rounded up and thrown into the meat grinder against their will in a war they can't win, and there's nothing wrong with Ukraine making concessions to the much larger/stronger military power to avoid senseless casualties in a war that will inevitably be lost. What part of fighting for every inch do you not understand? at some point the war will end and new lines will be drawn, until then they will keep fighting to keep as much of their country as they can. You are trying to be logical and unemotional and passing it off as humane, but your case doesn't make sense tactically or morally. Just trolling the unfortunate as always.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, Kz! said: You are definitely way braver than me because you support a war you'll never take part in. Way to stand up to Putin, Van. And you care deeply for the Ukranians' well being, which is why you support them stepping aside and letting Russia take their entire country.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: What part of fighting for every inch do you not understand? at some point the war will end and new lines will be drawn, until then they will keep fighting to keep as much of their country as they can. You are trying to be logical and unemotional and passing it off as humane, but your case doesn't make sense tactically or morally. I don't think I've ever heard anything more unamerican than "Give up your land to this invasion. You can't win". Imagine claiming to be a patriot with this type of take.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: What part of fighting for every inch do you not understand? at some point the war will end and new lines will be drawn, until then they will keep fighting to keep as much of their country as they can. You are trying to be logical and unemotional and passing it off as humane, but your case doesn't make sense tactically or morally. This isn't coherent whatsoever.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, Kz! said: This isn't coherent whatsoever. because bravery is alien to you.
July 5, 20241 yr Russia has been conscripting septagenarians against their will to perish in a meat grinder for over a year and yet somehow Putin remains blameless for that in the Tucker Carlson informed world view of someone who enjoys being told he's a moron by everyone he interacts with on the internet.
July 5, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: This isn't coherent whatsoever. That's because he bleeds Red, White and Blue. I can understand why it wouldn't make sense to you.
July 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: I don't think I've ever heard anything more unamerican than "Give up your land to this invasion. You can't win". Imagine claiming to be a patriot with this type of take. Zelensky wanted a peace deal and had one intact but caved to international pressure for him to keep fighting. I thought this was known?
July 5, 20241 yr "You're unamerican if you think Ukraine is going to lose the war!" Honestly, libtards really do say the most retarded things in here.
July 5, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: because bravery is alien to you. "You're not brave unless you support a war over 5,000 miles away!" You are very brave, dawkins4prez.
July 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Zelensky wanted a peace deal and had one intact but caved to international pressure for him to keep fighting. I thought this was known? Sure Pringles, Putin's had a peace deal this whole time too. Israel and hamas also have their own peace deals in place.
July 5, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: "You're unamerican if you think Ukraine is going to lose the war!" Honestly, libtards really do say the most retarded things in here. Just now, Kz! said: "You're not brave unless you support a war over 5,000 miles away!" You are very brave, dawkins4prez. Nah bro, you can think they are going to lose. What you're suggesting is surrender. That clearly defines who you are.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, Kz! said: "You're not brave unless you support a war over 5,000 miles away!" You are very brave, dawkins4prez. No I recognize the bravery of Ukranians fighting for their country. just like I recognize the bravery of millions of immigrants trekking to someplace where they and their families have some semblance of hope. To you bravery is owning the libs.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, Kz! said: Zelensky wanted a peace deal and had one intact but caved to international pressure for him to keep fighting. I thought this was known? Flat F'ing lie. I remember going through this one with you surrender poosays a year or so ago. They were working on a deal in April 2022, but then Russia escalated the war and the talks fell apart. Your source on Ukraine accepting the terms of that deal is...Vladamir Putin. The "peace" deal that Russia was pushing was that Ukraine never join NATO, all but disband their army and give Russia a third of their country. That sounds like a great deal for Ukraine! I can't image why Zelensky didn't accept it.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Flat F'ing lie. I remember going through this one with you surrender poosays a year or so ago. They were working on a deal in April 2022, but then Russia escalated the war and the talks fell apart. Your source on Ukraine accepting the terms of that deal is...Vladamir Putin. The "peace" deal that Russia was pushing was that Ukraine never join NATO, all but disband their army and give Russia a third of their country. That sounds like a great deal for Ukraine! I can't image why Zelensky didn't accept it. Pringles and his crowd do this over and over again. Circulate a flat out straight up lie from whole cloth, fade into the bushes when its easily disproven, only to resurface it as if it were hard fact months later. An ever churning vat of molten lies to mutate, regurgitate and recycle at their pleasure.
July 5, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Nah bro, you can think they are going to lose. What you're suggesting is surrender. That clearly defines who you are. libtards really think they're brave for supporting a war in Ukraine. It's fascinating to watch.
July 5, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: libtards really think they're brave for supporting a war in Ukraine. It's fascinating to watch. You've confused us thinking we're brave with us thinking you're a poosay.
July 5, 20241 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: You've confused us thinking we're brave with us thinking you're a poosay. Right, if I'm a poosay for opposing war in Ukraine, then your argument would imply that you're brave for being pro war.
July 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Right, if I'm a poosay for opposing war in Ukraine, then your argument would imply that you're brave for being pro war. We don’t have to be particularly brave for you to be a poosay.
July 5, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Right, if I'm a poosay for opposing war in Ukraine, then your argument would imply that you're brave for being pro war. You're not "opposing war" you dork. You're opposing fighting back against a literal invasion. What is the matter with you?
July 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: You're not "opposing war" you dork. You're opposing fighting back against a literal invasion. What is the matter with you? And to be straight, he also opposes fleeing to somewhere else and starting a new life. So I guess surrendering AND taking it in the arse from your invaders is the only moral thing to do.
July 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: You're not "opposing war" you dork. Of course I am. Russia isn't going to lose a war with Ukraine. I think we both agree on that much, right? So we both understand concessions are eventually going to be made, right? It's my preference that they're made before hundreds of thousands of more deaths. I know, I know, that makes me a "coward!" or a "Putin lover!"
July 5, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: And to be straight, he also opposes fleeing to somewhere else and starting a new life. So I guess surrendering AND taking it in the arse from your invaders is the only moral thing to do. You trying to wrap libtard platitudes on illegal immigration into this conversation is pretty hilarious.
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