Sickening.

31 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Huge news

Truly! Who knew CTE is contagious!

2 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

Sickening.

MAGA scum got their panties in a bunch because the leader of one of our allies doesn’t like the fact that Trump and Vance want him to surrender part of his country. 

I don’t disagree with Trump here.  He gave Putin whatever he wanted so there was no need for Russia to invade Ukraine.  When Trump got voted out Putin was no longer getting whatever he wanted.  It’s the voters’ fault.

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Right??  "Drop” an ICBM?   The whole point of using an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile is that you can launch it from thousands of miles away.  Anyway…     

Me finding out Lynched isn’t a rocket scientist:

 

25 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

Sickening.

Holy sheet. They really should fly Zelensky in once a week. Dumbazz is so easy to bait. 

1 hour ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

Sickening.

That’s not what he said, but it looks really bad what Ron said Trump said.

1 minute ago, RPeeteRules said:

That’s not what he said, but it looks really bad what Ron said Trump said.

If it’s our fault then it’s not Putin’s fault. It’s pretty simple. Dude needs to stop sheeting on America for 1 day of his life. 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

If it’s our fault then it’s not Putin’s fault. It’s pretty simple. Dude needs to stop sheeting on America for 1 day of his life. 

It can be both Putin’s fault, and it can be our fault for not acting.  Trump is really stupid and says a lot of dumb things.  Making up fake quotes of him doesn’t help make people believe that he’s actually stupid.

1 minute ago, RPeeteRules said:

It can be both Putin’s fault, and it can be our fault for not acting.  Trump is really stupid and says a lot of dumb things.  Making up fake quotes of him doesn’t help make people believe that he’s actually stupid.

For not acting? 

Just now, Tnt4philly said:

For not acting? 

Trump illegally withheld aid to Ukraine after Congress had already approved it.  Maybe acting like a corrupt scumbag is the acting Trump is referring to.

1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:

For not acting? 

That’s what he’s saying.  For not stepping in to stop.  He’s not saying Putin isn’t to blame.  He’s blaming Biden for not acting.  Again, a stupid thing to say.  He’s not saying that Putin isn’t to blame.

5 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said:

It can be both Putin’s fault, and it can be our fault for not acting.  Trump is really stupid and says a lot of dumb things.  Making up fake quotes of him doesn’t help make people believe that he’s actually stupid.

Who’s to blame for us not acting?

2 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said:

It can be both Putin’s fault, and it can be our fault for not acting.  Trump is really stupid and says a lot of dumb things.  Making up fake quotes of him doesn’t help make people believe that he’s actually stupid.

It absolutely excuses Putin and puts the onus on the US. And you would agree if a Dem politician said the same thing about, pick a tragedy, Oct 7th or 9/11. You’re just willing to give a Rep a lot more slack.

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

It absolutely excuses Putin and puts the onus on the US. And you would agree if a Dem politician said the same thing about, pick a tragedy, Oct 7th or 9/11. You’re just willing to give a Rep a lot more slack.

If a Dem politician said we should have prevented 9/11, I absolutely would not think they were saying that those who did the attacks weren’t to blame.  I see a 9 second clip where Trump doesn’t mention Putin and can realize he doesn’t say that Putin isn’t to blame.  Others seem to see Ron put the thought out there and agree.

9 minutes ago, MidMoFo said:

Who’s to blame for us not acting?

Trump is probably blaming Biden and Harris, seeing as he’s running against Harris.  It’s a stupid thing to say, but again, it’s Trump.  He’s not absolving blame from Putin for the war.

56 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said:

Trump is probably blaming Biden and Harris, seeing as he’s running against Harris.  It’s a stupid thing to say, but again, it’s Trump.  He’s not absolving blame from Putin for the war.

You are trying to play chess when Trump plays tic tac toe. This is an overthink, he is saying exactly what he means. It is USA fault for Russia attacking Ukraine.

4 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

Sickening.

Meh, nothing new. Dude is a traitor who hates America

15 hours ago, RPeeteRules said:

Trump is probably blaming Biden and Harris, seeing as he’s running against Harris.  It’s a stupid thing to say, but again, it’s Trump.  He’s not absolving blame from Putin for the war.

Donnie wants so badly to be the Neville Chamberlin to Putin. Appease appease appease. 

7 hours ago, RPeeteRules said:

Trump is probably blaming Biden and Harris, seeing as he’s running against Harris.  It’s a stupid thing to say, but again, it’s Trump.  He’s not absolving blame from Putin for the war.

Trump calls Putin ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ for Ukraine invasion

The former president’s praise for Putin comes at a perilous geopolitical moment in Europe.

 

This must be one of those time that the people that like him becasue he "tells it like it is,” have to apologize for what he says. But not a cult! 
 

20 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

Dude's cooked

He'd do more rallies, but that means probably paying the bills from last time.

8 hours ago, RPeeteRules said:

That’s not what he said, but it looks really bad what Ron said Trump said.

That's a very friendly interpretation of Trump's remarks. 

Weird how Kamala is never held to the same standard. 

Trump lies literally 100s of times every rally and it's baked in and accepted as just Trump being Trump. 

He presents almost no details of policy - goals are not policy - and what little details he releases show him to be economically illiterate.

But please, yes, let's make sure we step back and hem and haw over what Trump meant, as if after four years of seeing him screw this country up and leaning into every negative lizard brain impulse we don't have a good idea of what this guy is about.

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

Trump calls Putin ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ for Ukraine invasion

The former president’s praise for Putin comes at a perilous geopolitical moment in Europe.

 

This must be one of those time that the people that like him becasue he "tells it like it is,” have to apologize for what he says. But not a cult! 
 

Yeah, but see...he's saying it's a genius and savvy move STRATEGICALLY.  Not that he's supporting or condoning the invasion by this genius and savvy dictator that he continuously seems to compliment. 

8 hours ago, RPeeteRules said:

Trump is probably blaming Biden and Harris, seeing as he’s running against Harris.  It’s a stupid thing to say, but again, it’s Trump.  He’s not absolving blame from Putin for the war.

If we treat blame as a pie chart, then assigning any level of blame to the US is absolving some portion of blame from Russia. Unless you think there's some other party that's to blame here, saying the US is partially to blame for the invasion clearly implies that Russia is not wholly responsible for it. Hence why Trump is absolving Putin to some degree of the blame. He's not absolving him entirely, but he's still saying it's not all Putin's fault alone.

Ukraine should be a great issue for Biden and Harris objectively. Putin gambled poorly, thinking NATO would wilt in response to the invasion, and they've done anything but wilt.

We now have two new and strong members of NATO - including a historical nemesis sharing a long border up north - and a stronger commitment to the defensive pact than has been seen in over a generation. 

Biden's leadership here, from sounding the alarms and rallying allies before the invasion to leading the way by example on supporting Ukraine materially, has been excellent. The only criticism I'd levy is that he should be less cautious allowing Ukraine to deploy US provided weapons in defense of the nation, if that means launching strikes into Russia itself. 

Trump would have - and still would - leave Ukraine to be taken by Putin. For all his bluster he has more in common with Neville Chamberlain than Winston Churchill.